View Full Version : sheen + obama + 9/11
insert_car
09-20-2009, 09:55 PM
= INTERESTING
not that i believe the conspiracy theories behind 911, i do believe there are holes and unanswered questions i wish they would resolve. sheen being a strong democrat, i can't believe he went at the prez like this. even about him going back on his word about some bills lol.
anyways i thought this was interesting. the first vid is of sheens vid tot the prez. 2nd is an interview of sheen about the message to obama. below that is the interview of sheen vs obama.
http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/
Veedubtrek
09-20-2009, 10:58 PM
definitely interesting... i'm not completely sure how i feel about the whole situation, but I know if it was "simply" a terrorist attack, there shouldn't be so many odd questions and unexplained events.
xamraci
09-21-2009, 01:23 AM
Opinion Reserved...
and brock is going to eat this like candy surrendered to children at the meat market...
My pops was at the 5 Sided building when the aircraft struck it...
...sure things were covered up...and we probably shot down United Flight 93...
Sheens a fucking moron...opinions on my C and C...reserved
Pegasus_Red
09-21-2009, 01:47 AM
if there is nothing to hide, then why act like this.
xamraci
09-21-2009, 02:09 AM
if there is nothing to hide, then why act like this.
Same reason we dont want CIA documents to be released. Why we shouldnt talk about our weapons or publish whats being built and or how good it is. Some things people dont need to know. In terms of our SAFETY yeah...but if we used some sort of defense system that is UNKNOWN to us to defend against such an attack...no we shouldnt talk about it.
Pegasus_Red
09-21-2009, 02:28 AM
Same reason we dont want CIA documents to be released. Why we shouldnt talk about our weapons or publish whats being built and or how good it is. Some things people dont need to know. In terms of our SAFETY yeah...but if we used some sort of defense system that is UNKNOWN to us to defend against such an attack...no we shouldnt talk about it.
'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin
I agree with the whole hush hush on the goods, what I cant stand behind is a government built on smoke and mirrors or hope
I can hope in one hand, and shit in the other, guess which ones going to fill up faster.
xamraci
09-21-2009, 02:30 AM
'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin
I agree with the whole hush hush on the goods, what I cant stand behind is a government built on smoke and mirrors or hope
I can hope in one hand, and shit in the other, guess which ones going to fill up faster.
I can support smoke and mirrors if the lack their of would put the safety of our country in jeopardy. When it comes to something like 9/11...I dunno. We didnt cough up the bulk of events surrounding Pearl Harbor when it happened either.
Truth surfaces eventually...or its left to speculation.
adam p
09-21-2009, 03:13 AM
'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin
Just fyi...
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
All safety requires the sacrifice of SOME sort of liberty. It's a matter of proper balance.
Mowgli87
09-21-2009, 03:48 AM
That was a pretty interesting interview indeed! However, I'm still kinda torn on the topic. One side of me wants to join in with Sheen and demand answers...but then the logical side of my psyche slaps me in the face!
Too much of the truth in some cases can do more harm than good. I think 9/11 is one of those cases.
Take for instance the story of Adam and Eve. They had it made just chillin in the Garden of Eden with all of the animals in completely, naked innocence. They literally didn't have a care in the world. Then along comes Satan saying, "psst, hey...Eve check this out. If you eat this, you can know EVERYTHING that God knows." A lot of good came out of that, huh!?
Sure, we have a sick and twisted government that's full of deceiving, secretive, politicians. But we still have some safety right?
Obike
09-21-2009, 04:09 AM
That was a pretty interesting interview indeed! However, I'm still kinda torn on the topic. One side of me wants to join in with Sheen and demand answers...but then the logical side of my psyche slaps me in the face!
Too much of the truth in some cases can do more harm than good. I think 9/11 is one of those cases.
Take for instance the story of Adam and Eve. They had it made just chillin in the Garden of Eden with all of the animals in completely, naked innocence. They literally didn't have a care in the world. Then along comes Satan saying, "psst, hey...Eve check this out. If you eat this, you can know EVERYTHING that God knows." A lot of good came out of that, huh!?
Sure, we have a sick and twisted government that's full of deceiving, secretive, politicians. But we still have some safety right?
It's a fake interview. It's posted in a attempt to get an interview with Obama.
Too much of the truth in some cases can do more harm than good. I think 9/11 is one of those cases.
Uhmmm, did I wake up in lala land or did you really just say that? We are flipping the bill for lies? Assuming there was a massive 9/11 cover-up I WANT TO FUCKING KNOW. Letting your government get away with this sort of thing is a free ticket for them to do bigger and worse things.
Take for instance the story of Adam and Eve. They had it made just chillin in the Garden of Eden with all of the animals in completely, naked innocence. They literally didn't have a care in the world. Then along comes Satan saying, "psst, hey...Eve check this out. If you eat this, you can know EVERYTHING that God knows." A lot of good came out of that, huh!?
Remember on Heroes when Claire found out her father worked for "The Company"....lets stick to things that really happened.
yeah I took it there.
Mowgli87
09-21-2009, 09:30 AM
Remember on Heroes when Claire found out her father worked for "The Company"....lets stick to things that really happened.
yeah I took it there.
Ha. Whether you believe the happenings recorded in The Bible shouldn't negate the simple analogy I was making. As bad as the show made "the man in the horned rim glasses" appear, he still tried to do everything possible to protect his daughter, IIRC.
Edit:
Nevermind, I see what you did there...touche!
I want something fast
09-22-2009, 01:02 PM
Explosions in the buildings...that one is a very simple answer and doesn't need a conspiracy behind it. If you have ever been around a large concrete structure when it fails you will know that it does not simply make a squeak and then fall to the ground to that end neither does steel. Anyone that has been around Atlanta lately can tell you that when a level of a parking deck goes it takes out every deck below it. When you have a floor blow destabilized by fire and damage to structural members it is a matter of time before you will have a failure.
As for the Pentagon, I know for a fact that an Airplane hit that building and that is all I am going to say about that.
insert_car
09-22-2009, 02:04 PM
yeah i totally agree about the explosion thing. i have never had a problem with that. most new yorkers cant tell the difference i am sure.
all the phone call shit from the planes is kinda messed up. i dont understand a couple of them for sure. contradicting stories behind them and for some reason no one will answer them.
I want something fast
09-22-2009, 03:40 PM
yeah i totally agree about the explosion thing. i have never had a problem with that. most new yorkers cant tell the difference i am sure.
all the phone call shit from the planes is kinda messed up. i dont understand a couple of them for sure. contradicting stories behind them and for some reason no one will answer them.
I would say that there is a higher likely hood that the planes had been shot at or shot down by our fighters than anything else. I would suspect that the only thing that we may have been mislead on is the fact that our fighters failed to intercept after given the order or were too slow in their reaction to begin with. On the issues with flight 93 I have a feeling that it was shot down no contact could be made after the last of the passengers got off the phone with his wife so they feared the worse and gave authorization to shoot it down. I honestly would rather think that the folks on board were victorious in their efforts and that the cowards just flew the plane into the ground but I think to much time passed from the last contact with the folks on board and the order was given to take her down....The country was already deeply wounded, why tell them that the brave folks on that plane who went down fighting were shot out of the sky because the folks on the ground were too scared to trust that the plane had been successfully re taken. I don't know that I would have done anything different if it were my decision to make and knowing what had taken place that day.
Godspeed1976
09-22-2009, 04:15 PM
This thread is delicious cake for me. I must resist.
insert_car
09-22-2009, 06:48 PM
This thread is delicious cake for me. I must resist.
thats why its here. drop knowledge.
thats why its here. drop knowledge.
+1
xamraci
09-22-2009, 10:31 PM
Speaking to people who work in air defense...we probably shot down United 93. Not with a JET either. Probably with a ground to air defense system that we have in place that isnt discussed or known to the public.
ActiveAero
09-23-2009, 12:15 AM
I believe the "conspiracy" part really deals with the fact that we had tons of information saying that we were going to be attacked and top level officials chose to ignore it. I chalk this up mainly to the fact that most upper level government officials are retarded.
As for the buildings I'm 99.9% certain they were taken down because huge planes, flown by a bunch of Egyptians, ran into them at a few hundred mph.
xamraci
09-23-2009, 12:55 AM
As for the buildings I'm 99.9% certain they were taken down because huge planes, flown by a bunch of Egyptians, ran into them at a few hundred mph.
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