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ActiveAero
08-27-2003, 05:25 PM
Both are beast cars and I doubt any of us will have a chance to drive either, but what would you take?

In terms of acceleration there seems to be alot of debate going on. In one of our US mags the Enzo bested the McLaren running a low 11 second pass and trapping 136mph if I'm not mistaken to the Mclaren's run of 11.4@131 (I think Road and Track has the numbers). However the arguement stems from the supposedly horrible 100+ degree conditions in which the F1 was tested. Then there are the seldom known test numbers achieved by the F1 when it was first released, but before it attempted an official top speed run. It turned in a very impressive time of 11.1 with an amazing 138mph trap speed.

In a new autocar magazine they put the Enzo up against the F1 ( I doubt head to head) and again the Mclaren bested the Enzo's 0-150mph time. I don't have the magazine myself but saw the results posted. It only took the F1 12.8 seconds to hit 150mph.

Handling I think would go to the Enzo by looking at the numbers when compared to the normal F1 6.1. The McLaren was noted as not being an extremely great handler (still really good) and understeer prone, only pulling .86g's in lateral grip in our mags (same test with the horrible condiditons). I've always found that stat odd considering the weight and tires the F1 uses. That alone should propell it well above .90 G's but I guess not. The Enzo on the other hand seems to be a handling beast.

Then there is the whole McLaren F1 LM thing, which is the special edition road car, only 5 of which were built if I'm not mistaken. It's around 100lbs lighter than a normal F1, 40 more hp, shorter gearing, and way more downforce. Considering they say it is the LeMans racer made street legal without any restrictions I'm going to have to say it must handle extremely well considering McLaren dominated LeMans with it.

They also tested it Acceleration wise put had trouble with traction in the test I saw in terms of 0-60mph, but from 70-110mph it was 1 second faster than the normal road car :shock: .

Any opinions?

AU RSX-S
08-27-2003, 07:22 PM
ENZO by a long shot. More than likely take the McLaren on a road course and it's about $400,000 cheaper.

Oh yeah, it's a Ferrari, not an overpriced BMW. :lol:

ActiveAero
08-27-2003, 10:13 PM
ENZO by a long shot. More than likely take the McLaren on a road course and it's about $400,000 cheaper.

Oh yeah, it's a Ferrari, not an overpriced BMW. :lol:

Well actually Enzo's are going for over 1million from what I've seen. Just like the F1 which lists (if you can even say that) for $800,000. With all the fees to own them in the US the price comes out to over 1mil.

I'm pretty sure the Enzo would beat the normal F1 on a road course as well, but I'd like to see how it and the F1 LM would stack up.

1.8t
08-27-2003, 10:35 PM
F1, the Enzo is butt freaking ugly and no horse mounted on the front makes it look any better. Its amazing it took Ferrari years to come up with something to compete with the Mclaren when it was made years ago when there was half the technology that there is today. Besides, the Mclaren can actually be streeted and has storage room. You sit where you are supposed to sit, in the middle. The BMW V12 is ROCK SOLID, it doesn't crack headers like the F355 and I am sure that the Enzo will have much more reliability problems than the F355 since the more expensive Ferraris get, the more problems they have. Also, you can get the BMW V12 serviced at a certain BMW dealerships and it doesn't cost as much as you might think a $1 million dollar car's service would. The Mclaren started it all and looks 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times better than that snot nosed Enzo. Not to mention I want to row my own, even if the paddles are fast.

There is my highly opinionated response. Mclaren F1-4-life. :lol:

Edit: Also, FWIW, if you read the caption in the C&D magazine, the Enzo time was done on a race track. There was no level ground on the race track and the best place was slightly down hill. So expect lower 130s in the 1/4 mile, which makes sense if you compare the power/weight ratio to other cars that trap 130mph.

AU RSX-S
08-27-2003, 11:14 PM
you can get the BMW V12 serviced at a certain BMW dealerships

I still want to see proof of this. You can't just take an F1 to any BMW dealership and have it serviced just because BMW made it. Come on, that's a bit far fetched. :wink: I think they would tell you to go elsewhere unless they are specialized.

ActiveAero
08-28-2003, 01:05 AM
you can get the BMW V12 serviced at a certain BMW dealerships

I still want to see proof of this. You can't just take an F1 to any BMW dealership and have it serviced just because BMW made it. Come on, that's a bit far fetched. :wink: I think they would tell you to go elsewhere unless they are specialized.

He said CERTAIN dealerships which is true.

1.8t
08-28-2003, 09:49 AM
you can get the BMW V12 serviced at a certain BMW dealerships

I still want to see proof of this. You can't just take an F1 to any BMW dealership and have it serviced just because BMW made it. Come on, that's a bit far fetched. :wink: I think they would tell you to go elsewhere unless they are specialized.

He said CERTAIN dealerships which is true.

Boomshakalaka! 8)

AU RSX-S
08-28-2003, 11:12 AM
PSSHHHH! Like two! :lol: :wink:

WiggiE
08-28-2003, 05:43 PM
Umm....both those cars are uglier and fatter than kenny's mom. I'll take two of each please

CPMaverick
08-28-2003, 07:19 PM
McLaren hands down. The fact that they are nearly identical performance-wise, when 5 years of technology has passed, is probably embarrasing to Ferrari's supercar.


But really all you need to do is look at them. The Enzo is goofy looking. The McLaren still makes me drool.

grizoove
08-28-2003, 10:42 PM
McLaren hands down. The fact that they are nearly identical performance-wise, when 5 years of technology has passed, is probably embarrasing to Ferrari's supercar.


But really all you need to do is look at them. The Enzo is goofy looking. The McLaren still makes me drool.


and the Mclaren comes with its own set of lightweight tools!!!!