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Genji Sama
02-23-2010, 05:05 PM
This is just to show what a custom LS400 should look like *ballin on a budget*. Don't always have to go VIP, hope this helps that guy who just picked up one.

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss301/Genji-Sama/duwerke.jpg
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss301/Genji-Sama/honorableoct.jpg
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss301/Genji-Sama/Ocsprofile.jpg
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss301/Genji-Sama/perfectposture.jpg
vvvThis one was his sig
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss301/Genji-Sama/DirtyOctopus.jpg
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss301/Genji-Sama/standout.jpg
Hope this helps. You don't see to many custom LS400s do it right

Inspector
02-23-2010, 06:00 PM
nice wheels and stance, but those exhaust tips are horrible.

Matt2105
02-23-2010, 06:18 PM
They'd look good on a Mack or maybe a Freightliner...

TylerW
02-23-2010, 06:22 PM
Good stance, but horrible choice of wheels and exhaust tips.

Actually, the wheels aren't that bad. I would have chosen a different (like I'd like to do with the wheels on my Z: thanks previous owner :rolleyes: ) design but they aren't horrible.

FST 05
02-23-2010, 06:22 PM
So is the purpose of "going VIP" to make a luxury car ghetto?

adam p
02-23-2010, 06:49 PM
FST - Yes. VIP is when you want other people to think that you are a poor person who wants to be rich, or that you are the type of person that thinks shiny things are automatically classy and expensive.

Grider
02-23-2010, 06:51 PM
If that is "right" I'd hate to see wrong....

linuxman51
02-23-2010, 06:59 PM
that car on a whole looks like complete shit. the wheels are fucking ugly, its too goddamn low to be of any use in any real driving environment, and with that much negative camber you're going to wear tires out in about five minutes.

Matt2105
02-23-2010, 08:12 PM
that car on a whole looks like complete shit. the wheels are fucking ugly, its too goddamn low to be of any use in any real driving environment, and with that much negative camber you're going to wear tires out in about five minutes.

Brah you crazy. I be seein shit like dat up at tha Jerzey Shore all Summer long son.

I dunno what Negative Camber is but I got a Glock chambered in .40 and who needs tires when you got PHAT rimz.

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-23-2010, 08:23 PM
Yeah,I know that car. What you don't see in those pics are the cut springs and trashed interior.

AlmosN8kd
02-23-2010, 08:28 PM
Yeah,I know that car. What you don't see in those pics are the cut springs and trashed interior.


He did say it was on a budget, you can't have everything if you don't have money. :D

Not my choice in cars to mod and I don't like the excessive negative camber look but that is just me.

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-23-2010, 08:42 PM
Also, those are the most popular wheels for "VIP" style.

Jess
02-23-2010, 09:03 PM
this whole forum is gettin gay with this VIP shit.

We are not gangster rappers, we are car enthusiasts.

XSivPSI
02-23-2010, 09:11 PM
I thought it looks pretty cool :eek: Not that I'd do something like that myself... just sayin.

I'd be down if it had a boosted LS1 or 2JZ and without the retarded camber, exhaust and not quite so low. (No idea what motor comes in those stock...)

adam p
02-23-2010, 09:35 PM
Less Camber, better paint, no exhaust, and it being fast and yes I would like it too. Too bad I just changed like everything the owner likes about it haha.

Jnic335i
02-23-2010, 09:40 PM
not my cup of tea. I feel like I would need a sidewayz ATL hat and some uzzie's to drive dat thang

easy2speed
02-23-2010, 09:41 PM
Kyle, mod your airbox or build an intake for it. Those V8s sound amazing with an open intake - It almost has like a Ferrari wail to it.

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-23-2010, 09:55 PM
Thanks for the idea Daniel. Any tips on how to modify the airbox and it not look like shit?

Matt2105
02-23-2010, 09:58 PM
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Thread saved by the Temptations. First time you've ever seen that!

FST 05
02-23-2010, 10:17 PM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/H_98hvk0-mA&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/H_98hvk0-mA&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Thread saved by the Temptations. First time you've ever seen that!


nothing can save a thread of VIP ghettoness.

XSivPSI
02-23-2010, 10:35 PM
Less Camber, better paint, no exhaust, and it being fast and yes I would like it too. Too bad I just changed like everything the owner likes about it haha.

I don't mind the paint... Hell I want this as long as it is as fast as it was in the movie or faster.

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-43fb82418d263-Jeepers+Creepers+%282001%29.jpeg

easy2speed
02-23-2010, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the idea Daniel. Any tips on how to modify the airbox and it not look like shit?


Not really, I'd just build an intake for it. In the mean time, pull the filter out and drive it around the block to hear it.

VitaminT
02-23-2010, 11:28 PM
A buddy of mine had a 98 SC400. He just did a TRD drop in, and then below the airbox where it went into some convoluted piping, he made a duct that went down into the lower grill. Sounded pretty cool.

CPMaverick
02-23-2010, 11:42 PM
That posture is not Dr recommended

Genji Sama
02-24-2010, 02:26 AM
Lol, wow 7 hours and a thread full of haters, what do you expect to do to do to a car "customization" wise when you buy a lexus. It's an older model and it looks clean IMO, but whatever. If you know another way to customize one of these post it, I was just trying to see what the guy with the metro was gonna do.

AUtigers350z
02-24-2010, 06:10 AM
I don't think it's too bad. Not a fan of the color, the tips or even the wheel style, but the stance is fine by me. Definitely not the worst looking LS400 I've seen. I wouldn't buy one of those cars for speed or handling anyway, so if I had to DD it, I would want it to look good. Visually, there really isn't much you can do to an old Lexus to make it stand out and still look clean unfortunately. When in doubt, dropping it and throwing some nice wheels on is a pretty failsafe option.

If I had to go with a similar year/style car, I'd rock something like this Q45..

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/lunchbox00/157yzgi.jpg

TheWill
02-24-2010, 08:15 AM
Looking at it in a VIP mindset, i like all of it but the front end. I think the front end is what really ruins that car.
http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/e1f9fa1621b272db23e8acded09db06d/VIP_LS400_72180_20080511.jpg
http://www.jpusaco.com/images/products/86_L.jpg

These are good examples.

FST 05
02-24-2010, 08:42 AM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z128/fst05/funny%20pics/failboatlg0.jpg

A418t81
02-24-2010, 10:00 AM
What is up with the ghetto-ass LS400s lately. Damn.

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 10:05 AM
Love it

linuxman51
02-24-2010, 10:28 AM
Love it

of course you would, you have veedub as part of your username. you and your kind should stick to ruining old golfs and gtis and shit no one cares about. :-P

linuxman51
02-24-2010, 10:29 AM
Thanks for the idea Daniel. Any tips on how to modify the airbox and it not look like shit?

I hear tell the trick is to not paint it with that chrome wheel paint stuff :D

Jess
02-24-2010, 10:42 AM
What is up with the ghetto-ass LS400s lately. Damn.

why you gotsta be hatin' dogg?

Genji Sama
02-24-2010, 10:47 AM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z128/fst05/funny%20pics/failboatlg0.jpg

Speaking of a Failboat. Hey, your in a mustang club. Are there a lot of 16 year old girls in there as well. The mustang is such an uncommon base i bet none of ya'lls cars look anything alike...:D

AlmosN8kd
02-24-2010, 10:53 AM
Speaking of a Failboat. Hey, your in a mustang club. Are there a lot of 16 year old girls in there as well.(reads like a question to me, yet no ?) The mustang is such an uncommon base i bet none of ya'lls cars look anything alike...:D

Irony is a bitch.

Jnic335i
02-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Lol, wow 7 hours and a thread full of haters, what do you expect to do to do to a car "customization" wise when you buy a lexus. It's an older model and it looks clean IMO, but whatever. If you know another way to customize one of these post it, I was just trying to see what the guy with the metro was gonna do.

not hating just not my style is all.

IronMonkey
02-24-2010, 11:14 AM
I like low car cars with nice wheels...so I like these kind of things...
http://www.autofashionusa.com/content/wp-content/gallery/robert-chews-1999-lexus-gs300/rob3.jpg

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 11:38 AM
of course you would, you have veedub as part of your username. you and your kind should stick to ruining old golfs and gtis and shit no one cares about. :-P
Why would I do that when I can take perfectly good cars, ruin them, and piss everyone-the-fuck-off?

EDIT ~ I forgot to add "and make everyone bitch, moan, and complain (aka the things aspeed normally does)"

EDIT EDIT ~ I also forgot to add "and cry"

linuxman51
02-24-2010, 11:54 AM
Why would I do that when I can take perfectly good cars, ruin them, and piss everyone-the-fuck-off?

EDIT ~ I forgot to add "and make everyone bitch, moan, and complain (aka the things aspeed normally does)"

EDIT EDIT ~ I also forgot to add "and cry"

I'm not sure how you driving around in an ugly car pisses me off, but oook.

just keep them apex seals on the insiiiiiiiiiyyydeee :-D

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 12:00 PM
I'm not sure how you driving around in an ugly car pisses me off, but oook.
I'm not sure either, but you "sounded" pissed so I rolled with it and made a blanket statement expressing my amusement of the woman-like bitching and moaning that takes place on aspeed all the time. ;)

Genji Sama
02-24-2010, 12:55 PM
^^^ooooooff topic, the quick and sophisticated way to settle this is "to each his own" a powerful quote that let's everybody win in their own mind

Jess
02-24-2010, 01:14 PM
Irony is a bitch.

Are you talking about his sig?

FST 05
02-24-2010, 01:20 PM
Irony is a bitch.


Well Played sir,

When he learns how to type better than a 16 year old maybe then I will take his post serious. Until then I think I will go cut the springs on my ruststang and put 24" ghetto rims on it and see how much negative camber I can get out of it and call it VIP.

AlmosN8kd
02-24-2010, 01:24 PM
Are you talking about his sig?


No, I was referring to his attempt to call Russ out on being a passenger on the Failboat yet his "insult" to Russ was a failure in its own. However, now that you mention it, I like where you're head is at. :D

Nstig8r
02-24-2010, 01:52 PM
See... This thread embodies what is wrong with the current state of this forum and the meets... This is aSPEED, not aLOOKS. Too many people around here now care about what color they are gonna paint their interior pieces as opposed to making their car perform better. Sure, some of us can overlook a few people's slip-up in taste, but not when the whole package is slow and just sucks. We are ALL climbing on the failboat if this crap continues...

IronMonkey
02-24-2010, 02:17 PM
I don't see anything wrong when you have different car for different purposes....being a car enthusias doesn't always mean you have to like to make your car fast...

skyhighsami
02-24-2010, 02:22 PM
*yawn* this thread hasn't died a slow and painful death yet?

adam p
02-24-2010, 03:07 PM
I don't see anything wrong when you have different car for different purposes....being a car enthusias doesn't always mean you have to like to make your car fast...

I'll agree with this. It's fine to talk about if a car is cool or ugly. What else are we going to do?

TheWill
02-24-2010, 03:09 PM
I don't see anything wrong when you have different car for different purposes....being a car enthusias doesn't always mean you have to like to make your car fast...
But it does in a sense, just like with other hobbies and careers there will always be two sides of the house, you CAN have the best of both worlds but there are just some people who want to stay on one side of the fence and have the fastest e.t or have the most rare jdm tyte baller parts...its just the way it is.

Shift6
02-24-2010, 03:12 PM
That's baller. I'd drive it.

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 03:37 PM
This is aSPEED, not aLOOKS.
I vote for aBITCH

VR4Rob
02-24-2010, 04:46 PM
^^^ooooooff topic, the quick and sophisticated way to settle this is "to each his own" a powerful quote that let's everybody win in their own mind

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3641/1236090210351yx1.jpg

dixond
02-24-2010, 04:56 PM
Happy Wednesday everybody!
This thread definitely provided a good laugh.

VR4Rob
02-24-2010, 05:05 PM
Happy Wednesday everybody!
This thread definitely provided a good laugh.

Ah, sorry man. Did I steal your meme posting thunder? :(

dixond
02-24-2010, 05:07 PM
Ah, sorry man. Did I steal your meme posting thunder? :(
lol
No, you did a fantastic job. Great selection. Appropriately placed.
I laughed and the laugh was needed.
This thread is part of why I like aSpeed. Drama, bitching, over-generalized stereotypes, self righteousness, you name it... it's all here. It's why I keep coming back, haha.

Grider
02-24-2010, 06:00 PM
Don't do shit to it; it is not a perfect automobile, but anything done to a LS 400 is just going to make it worse. The car's role in life is to be an executive transport between point a and point b smoothly and in some isolation. By dropping it on the ground and putting rubber band tires on heavy ass rims you ruin what the car is designed for.

Modding it with this shit is one step from chain steering wheels and airbrushed murals on 60's iron or a 70's van. Pointless.

One part of what people on this board until the last few months have believed in is performance > appearance. Nothing about VIP says performance; all I see is money wasted on parts to make a good car look and perform worse. If you are going to do that might as well buy a Donk painted like a box of Tide and some 33"s; the net result is the same.

There are some tasteful VIP cars out there that haven't been ruined; but I've not seen them posted on here as examples of a good VIP style car would be...

Genji Sama
02-24-2010, 06:13 PM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3641/1236090210351yx1.jpg

How so. The quote means that everybody is right in their own respect so if one person thinks that they're building cars that look nice while the other person thinks their ruining them, then the quote fits....

. This is aSPEED, not aLOOKS.

Yet and still 80% of the threads on this forum are about football, hexacopters, or something else completely unrelated to cars.

AadosX
02-24-2010, 06:14 PM
Damn I only read the first page but I can already skip to the end because I know what the other pages contain.

This forum is so full of hate rofl. Could really use some positivity and understanding. To each his own? aHATE!

P.S. I like those wheels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pryh-MJ0akU

insert_car
02-24-2010, 06:28 PM
this is fucking funny

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 06:49 PM
To each his own? aHATE!
voted!

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 06:50 PM
Modding it with this shit is one step from chain steering wheels and airbrushed murals on 60's iron or a 70's van. Pointless.
Living in california makes me two steps closer...

dare I say three steps closer?

score

Veedubtrek
02-24-2010, 06:51 PM
This thread is part of why I like aSpeed. Drama, bitching, over-generalized stereotypes, self righteousness, you name it... it's all here. It's why I keep coming back, haha.
aDRAMABITCHINGOVERGENERALIZEDSTEREOTYPESSELFRIGHTEOUSNESSYOUNAMIEITITSALLHERE

AlmosN8kd
02-24-2010, 06:52 PM
aDRAMABITCHINGOVERGENERALIZEDSTEREOTYPESSELFRIGHTEOUSNESSYOUNAMIEITITSALLHERE
+1

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-24-2010, 07:10 PM
+1

will that even fit in the address bar?

VR4Rob
02-24-2010, 07:47 PM
How so. The quote means that everybody is right in their own respect so if one person thinks that they're building cars that look nice while the other person thinks their ruining them, then the quote fits....

Yet and still 80% of the threads on this forum are about football, hexacopters, or something else completely unrelated to cars.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/19474/original/128925836006849814.jpg?1253230025

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/19719/original/NO5E65R2PRHVF7WAVBJNK7YHIYXLJEEJ.jpeg?1253410659

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/23033/original/OlamOANOCl3x570axH2woWFDo1_400.jpg?1255746596

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/7517/original/my_hat_is_made_of_eggs.jpg?1249416778

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/7510/original/robocop_is_riding_a_unicorn.jpg?1249415686

AlmosN8kd
02-24-2010, 07:50 PM
will that even fit in the address bar?

Hell if I know; but, we could always go with "aBITCH" for short. :D

Genji Sama
02-24-2010, 08:02 PM
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/19474/original/128925836006849814.jpg?1253230025

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/19719/original/NO5E65R2PRHVF7WAVBJNK7YHIYXLJEEJ.jpeg?1253410659

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/23033/original/OlamOANOCl3x570axH2woWFDo1_400.jpg?1255746596

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/7517/original/my_hat_is_made_of_eggs.jpg?1249416778

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/7510/original/robocop_is_riding_a_unicorn.jpg?1249415686

I see you have quite the collection here.... My vote goes to aBitch

Grider
02-24-2010, 08:04 PM
Yet and still 80% of the threads on this forum are about football, hexacopters, or something else completely unrelated to cars.

Just because it has four wheels and an engine doesn't mean I or most people here want to talk about it. There are 10,000 other forums on the Internet where people can go nutswing on VIP style cars. This is not one of them... or maybe it is and I need to quit coming here.

The signal to noise ratio is getting skewed again and its becoming more of a chore than fun to come here. Maybe its time to let aSpeed continue its slow drawn out death without me being around.

XSivPSI
02-24-2010, 08:08 PM
will that even fit in the address bar?

Yes.

XSivPSI
02-24-2010, 08:09 PM
I see you have quite the collection here.... My vote goes to aBitch

DON'T QUOTE PICTURES AND LEAVE THE IMG TAGS! CHANGE THEM TO URLS!

Jess
02-24-2010, 08:20 PM
Gengi, if you don't like this forum don't let the door hit you in the fart can on the way out.

Crankee
02-24-2010, 10:11 PM
Gengi, if you don't like this forum don't let the door hit you in the fart can on the way out.


That would be Apexi N1 Exhaust to you sir.

Mowgli87
02-24-2010, 11:06 PM
LOL!!! This thread rocks!

Inspector
02-24-2010, 11:07 PM
penis.

Jnic335i
02-24-2010, 11:26 PM
Just because it has four wheels and an engine doesn't mean I or most people here want to talk about it. There are 10,000 other forums on the Internet where people can go nutswing on VIP style cars. This is not one of them... or maybe it is and I need to quit coming here.

The signal to noise ratio is getting skewed again and its becoming more of a chore than fun to come here. Maybe its time to let aSpeed continue its slow drawn out death without me being around.

since everyone has moved this forum, nor the meets are the same. I've lost interest in the meets themselves.

Jamxx
02-25-2010, 01:04 AM
Saw that car on StanceWorks not too long ago, looks quite good with a few exceptions here and there... Exhaust tips are a bit overkill.

Lots of hate here... :(

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 01:13 AM
Just because it has four wheels and an engine doesn't mean I or most people here want to talk about it. There are 10,000 other forums on the Internet where people can go nutswing on VIP style cars. This is not one of them... or maybe it is and I need to quit coming here.

The signal to noise ratio is getting skewed again and its becoming more of a chore than fun to come here. Maybe its time to let aSpeed continue its slow drawn out death without me being around.

Sorry didn't realize you were so important to the forum. I'll just refrain from posting what i notice, so you can stay around a bit longer.

DON'T QUOTE PICTURES AND LEAVE THE IMG TAGS! CHANGE THEM TO URLS!

Somebody discovered the CAPS LOCK key on there keyboard:D

Gengi, if you don't like this forum don't let the door hit you in the fart can on the way out.

Well then, who lit the end of your tampon??? I wouldn't come to the forum if i didn't like it, i just voted on a name somebody else proposed. Soooo...hop off

That would be Apexi N1 Exhaust to you sir.

Haha, darn straight

zmasterB
02-25-2010, 01:46 AM
aDRAMABITCHINGOVERGENERALIZEDSTEREOTYPESSELFRIGHTEOUSNESSYOUNAMIEITITSALLHERE

:partydanc

adam p
02-25-2010, 01:56 AM
Well then, who lit the end of your tampon??? I wouldn't come to the forum if i didn't like it, i just voted on a name somebody else proposed. Soooo...hop off


*sigh*

Veedubtrek
02-25-2010, 02:04 AM
since everyone has moved this forum, nor the meets are the same. I've lost interest in the meets themselves.
Welcome to my thoughts two years ago... Rick-Nick-Jess, hold me :(

Veedubtrek
02-25-2010, 02:10 AM
:partydanc
I'm glad someone caught that :D

Grider
02-25-2010, 10:13 AM
Sorry didn't realize you were so important to the forum. I'll just refrain from posting what i notice, so you can stay around a bit longer.

Well then, who lit the end of your tampon??? I wouldn't come to the forum if i didn't like it, i just voted on a name somebody else proposed. Soooo...hop off


If there was ever a justification for n00b crushing, you are making yourself an example of it. If you and your post are an example of what shows up at meets, no wonder people who have been going for years are ditching out.

I'm not "important to the forum" but when you have people who have been here for YEARS and thousands of post ready to stop showing up to meets and on the forums then something is very wrong in the community. aSpeed is bigger than me or anybody else here but when someone leaves because they've reached their tipping point of off-topic/not interested post then the community as a whole is weaker and one step closer to looking like that shit hole ARS or HSVRacing or a 1,000 other boards.

The whole reason you like the forum is based on the people here; people who feel like you are shitting on their board. Tell me how that is going to work out in the end? Its a slippery slope; quality people leave and then you are left talking to yourself in 6 months...

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:30 AM
If there was ever a justification for n00b crushing, you are making yourself an example of it. If you and your post are an example of what shows up at meets, no wonder people who have been going for years are ditching out.

I'm not "important to the forum" but when you have people who have been here for YEARS and thousands of post ready to stop showing up to meets and on the forums then something is very wrong in the community. aSpeed is bigger than me or anybody else here but when someone leaves because they've reached their tipping point of off-topic/not interested post then the community as a whole is weaker and one step closer to looking like that shit hole ARS or HSVRacing or a 1,000 other boards.

The whole reason you like the forum is based on the people here; people who feel like you are shitting on their board. Tell me how that is going to work out in the end? Its a slippery slope; quality people leave and then you are left talking to yourself in 6 months...

I wish i had one of those your argument is invalid pics, because when I commented earlier on how 80% of the post here are already off topic somebody told me i should just leave the forum. The threads were off topic before I arrived and the only threads i've ever started have been about cars, so... what are you getting at again??? and I don't think I've ever seen an '03 Audi at the meets, so you stopped coming long before I started (just sayin;) )

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 10:41 AM
and I don't think I've ever seen an '03 Audi at the meets, so you stopped coming long before I started (just sayin;) )

Dude, he grew up and got a job that is too far away to come to an Auburn meet (notice location = Huntsville, AL). He was coming to meets and has been a big part of aSpeed long before you or even I was a part of this "group." And, when he is in the area, for one reason or another, on a Tuesday night, he has rolled up to the deck; it just hasn't been for quite some time that the stars have aligned to allow him to visit. And, with the crowd that has been showing up to meets as of late, I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come out to them.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 10:46 AM
This has gotten better than a cripple fight......who gives a FUCK. I can appreciate the effort made by the vehicle owner when it is well executed. Cutting springs, throwing on some exhaust tips and wheels.....not well executed. The whole "VIP" look I think is more like the low rider movement on the West Coast but instead of 6foe Impalas it is luxo sedans.

dixond
02-25-2010, 10:46 AM
Dude, he grew up and got a job that is too far away to come to an Auburn meet (notice location = Huntsville, AL). He was coming to meets and has been a big part of aSpeed long before you or even I was a part of this "group." And, when he is in the area, for one reason or another, on a Tuesday night, he has rolled up to the deck; it just hasn't been for quite some time that the stars have aligned to allow him to visit. And, with the crowd that has been showing up to meets as of late, I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to come out to them.

Word. I would be out there on Tuesdays if I lived in Auburn. Sure, grad-school at Auburn caused my attendance to be much less frequent because of the time-commitment it required, but I do honestly miss going out to the meets.

Since this thread has jumped the shark:How many people are(/were when it was warm) regularly showing up to the meets now? Just curious to hear what I am missing.
Looking up at the banner picture of the top of the page brings back some pretty humorous memories.

VDUBNDizzy
02-25-2010, 11:01 AM
Anyone have any DJ gear for sale? Preferably more than $500.

Grider
02-25-2010, 11:06 AM
I wish i had one of those your argument is invalid pics, because when I commented earlier on how 80% of the post here are already off topic somebody told me i should just leave the forum. The threads were off topic before I arrived and the only threads i've ever started have been about cars, so... what are you getting at again??? and I don't think I've ever seen an '03 Audi at the meets, so you stopped coming long before I started (just sayin;) )

This board has never given a collective shit about VIP outside of "hey look at this, it looks good". aSpeed has always been about performance > looks. If VIP car threads is where this forum is heading then I will be willing to bet that a lot of people will just stop showing up on-line and in person. If you would have posted this in the original Lexus thread then maybe you wouldn't have gotten such a shitty fucking reaction from people. If you keep the shit grouped together it is 100% easier to ignore/filter from what you want to see.

I can appreciate well done VIP. Your thread does not have well done VIP. It has wigger want-a-bees spending money on shitty rims and body kits that make the cars look worse than when they left Japan.

Also I stopped coming because I moved the Huntsville with my wife, you fuckstick. I like most of the people on this board have a real job that requires me to not live in the reality distortion field that is a college town. When I am in town or even in East Central Alabama for work on a Tuesday evening I have made and effort to get to Auburn for DAAM and the meets. Some of the best times I had in Auburn were standing around in a parking lot or parking deck with a bunch of jackleg guys and their cars; I'm somewhat defensive of the event.

Of the people who still live in Auburn Justin and Tom have both specified that they don't like to go to meets because they don't enjoy it anymore. It is not like it was in the "old" days for what ever reason. The people that live in Auburn and have nothing better to do on Tuesday nights are not going out there; why is that?

Maybe you should engage your brain and figure out how to install phpBB or vBulletin and you can start aVIP board for the shit you want to look at.

But you know what, fuck it & FYYFF; you want to shit on things, then go right ahead. Obviously nobody else gives a crap. Why should I waste my time explaining myself to some fucking kid with an ugly panda Integra and a lack of a clue.

Inspector
02-25-2010, 11:36 AM
i'm sorry guys, but he is partially right... this whole argument makes aSpeed look like a bunch of bitchy girls (including him). people are going to have different opinions and tastes and you are NOT going to change anyones mind on the subject, sooo....

WHO GIVES A FUCK. please let this thread die goddammit!


...criticism is a good thing, but when you start getting personal it becomes more an attack. how did you expect him to respond? happy? i give up... fuck. there are many forms of car enthusiasts. not all of them have to do with going in a straight line/around a corner the fastest.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 11:38 AM
This board has never given a collective shit about VIP outside of "hey look at this, it looks good". aSpeed has always been about performance > looks. If VIP car threads is where this forum is heading then I will be willing to bet that a lot of people will just stop showing up on-line and in person. If you would have posted this in the original Lexus thread then maybe you wouldn't have gotten such a shitty fucking reaction from people. If you keep the shit grouped together it is 100% easier to ignore/filter from what you want to see.

I can appreciate well done VIP. Your thread does not have well done VIP. It has wigger want-a-bees spending money on shitty rims and body kits that make the cars look worse than when they left Japan.

Also I stopped coming because I moved the Huntsville with my wife, you fuckstick. I like most of the people on this board have a real job that requires me to not live in the reality distortion field that is a college town. When I am in town or even in East Central Alabama for work on a Tuesday evening I have made and effort to get to Auburn for DAAM and the meets. Some of the best times I had in Auburn were standing around in a parking lot or parking deck with a bunch of jackleg guys and their cars; I'm somewhat defensive of the event.

Of the people who still live in Auburn Justin and Tom have both specified that they don't like to go to meets because they don't enjoy it anymore. It is not like it was in the "old" days for what ever reason. The people that live in Auburn and have nothing better to do on Tuesday nights are not going out there; why is that?

Maybe you should engage your brain and figure out how to install phpBB or vBulletin and you can start aVIP board for the shit you want to look at.

But you know what, fuck it & FYYFF; you want to shit on things, then go right ahead. Obviously nobody else gives a crap. Why should I waste my time explaining myself to some fucking kid with an ugly panda Integra and a lack of a clue.

You whine like a freaking child with no clue as to what he is whining about. I posted pictures of ONE car, that I thought was put together well on a budget (everybody can't afford to build an Audi) and the car is well built for a budget, those wheels are not cheap, neither is his suspension setup, despite what was said about the car it has a full tan leather interior and a brand new motor in it, it's a complete and functional car. The thread was setup to show the guy with the LS400 what other people were doing. If you didn't like the thread all you had to do was click out of it. Bottom line if you don't like what you see, leave. Don't flame around in my thread expecting me to change my opinion ,cause you want to reminisce about how the scene used to be...and about the snash remark at my car, I'm sorry I didn't build the car to your liking, but plenty of other people appreciate how it looks (if you want to change it give me 6k and i'll build it to your specifications)

phillyd
02-25-2010, 11:41 AM
i'm sorry guys, but he is partially right... this whole argument makes aSpeed look like a bunch of bitchy girls (including him). people are going to have different opinions and tastes and you are NOT going to change anyones mind on the subject, sooo....

WHO GIVES A FUCK. please let this thread die goddammit!


+1. If you don't like something, why not just leave it alone? There has been a tremendous amount of effort put into *ie...wasted* some of these posts. Why not take that effort and post something you like instead of wasting the time in this turd of a thread? Most of the time, less > more.

Grider
02-25-2010, 11:42 AM
fuck it, he's right. I'm out bitches.

Jess
02-25-2010, 11:52 AM
I remember the days when somebody with a bodykitted fart can having multi-colored integra would have been shunned from the board. :confused:

Tis a sad day for aSpeed.

adam p
02-25-2010, 12:29 PM
Jason, I understand your frustration - in general, no we don't want tasteless ricers getting a free pass, or nobody will want to be here. Jess has a point.

Phil, Blake, +1.

Personally, the LS looks sort of like something that could look nice, but it's so poorly executed. The Integra is much worse.

XSivPSI
02-25-2010, 12:52 PM
I feel like this belongs here.

http://forums.aspeedracing.com/showpost.php?p=179150&postcount=1091

Veedubtrek
02-25-2010, 12:54 PM
And even after all of that I still love cupcakes...

Jess
02-25-2010, 12:56 PM
I feel like this belongs here.

http://forums.aspeedracing.com/showpost.php?p=179150&postcount=1091


bwahahahhaa how'd I miss that? :cool:

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 01:02 PM
bwahahahhaa how'd I miss that? :cool:


Cuz you were busy doing something bad ass. Like boosting a CR-V. :D

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 01:10 PM
Mods, please kill this thread...it's killing aSpeed.

Swine
02-25-2010, 01:22 PM
killerwhale kills person at seaworld...

rapter jesus approves, this thread must live.:quest:

Veedubtrek
02-25-2010, 01:40 PM
killerwhale kills person at seaworld...

rapter jesus approves, this thread must live.:quest:
+1

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 01:43 PM
I remember the days when somebody with a bodykitted fart can having multi-colored integra would have been shunned from the board. :confused:

Tis a sad day for aSpeed.

Shut the fuck up. You've never even seen my car. Everything on my car is OEM, not a damn body kit in sight. And my car has a black top, that's pretty common, they do make carbon fiber trunks, hoods, and wings. If you think you can build a cleaner integra. Build it and Bring it, til then GTFO

Adam
02-25-2010, 08:01 PM
thread moved, and re-opened

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:04 PM
In first after unlocked

Veedubtrek
02-25-2010, 08:04 PM
This can only lead to great things

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:06 PM
Adam, did you add the VIP tag to Genji's avatar? I would hope that isn't self inflicted, not sure his flame suit can handle that much backlash.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:07 PM
LMFAO, I'm feeling the new avatar. I'm gonna rock it with pride

Grider
02-25-2010, 08:08 PM
Shut the fuck up. You've never even seen my car. Everything on my car is OEM, not a damn body kit in sight. And my car has a black top, that's pretty common, they do make carbon fiber trunks, hoods, and wings. If you think you can build a cleaner integra. Build it and Bring it, til then GTFO

Quote before Ninja Edit...

LOL Wow. Bitching about getting a VIP forum before a football or workout forum to begin in 3....2....

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:12 PM
Yeah, just realized what you did....Not cool.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:14 PM
LMFAO, I'm feeling the new avatar. I'm gonna rock it with pride

Here, put this on too:

http://mahopa.de/bilder/lustige-forenbilder/sit-in-the-corner-dumbass.jpg

Wear that badge of shame with pride along with the other one. :D

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:15 PM
Why cant we all have 2 avatars?

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:19 PM
Why cant we all have 2 avatars?


Because, someone would drop it to the ground, put odd wheels on it, add Lambo doors, install 6" exhaust tips, chrome trim everything, call it VIP, and then sell the second turbo kit they bought for it. Therefore, ending the greatness that once was. Don't change topics, this was about to get good and I've got a full bag of popcorn. :D

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:21 PM
Because, someone would drop it to the ground, put odd wheels on it, add Lambo doors, install 6" exhaust tips, chrome trim everything, and then call it VIP. Therefore, ending the greatness that once was. Don't change topics, this was about to get good and I've got a full bag of popcorn. :D
If you bought a Jeep would you install Lambo doors? It's seems you cant spell customized without LAMBO

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:23 PM
If you bought a Jeep would you install Lambo doors? It's seems you cant spell customized without LAMBO

Damn, you quoted me before my ninja edit.

I have a Jeep and it doesn't have Lambo doors. If you bought a dually would you bag it? :D

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:27 PM
Because, someone would drop it to the ground, put odd wheels on it, add Lambo doors, install 6" exhaust tips, chrome trim everything, call it VIP, and then sell the second turbo kit they bought for it. Therefore, ending the greatness that once was. Don't change topics, this was about to get good and I've got a full bag of popcorn. :D

I do believe I've spotted Lambo doors on the Stealth in your sig. :confused:

Adam
02-25-2010, 08:29 PM
Why cant we all have 2 avatars?
you don't want that second avatar... it means you wound up on my radar and i've got a really shitty radar, so when you wind up there, you really did something to cause some rukus

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:30 PM
I do believe I've spotted Lambo doors on the Stealth in your sig. :confused:

I bet you can't find what is right here either:
http://www.bradwilson.us/bps/uploaded_images/DSC_0123-783907.JPG

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:32 PM
I'm just sayin' you speak of lambo doors like their a curse (I concur), but their on the car in you sig. So apparently you don't have that big a problem with them

Shifty
02-25-2010, 08:34 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f16/Shifty995/Forums/1265322938777.jpg

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:35 PM
I do believe I've spotted Lambo doors on the Stealth in your sig. :confused:
Is the Panda Bear talking about another's car? If you painted the BODY KIT under the doors it would look like a double stuffed OREO

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:37 PM
If you bought a dually would you bag it? :D
FUCK YEAH!!! If you bought a Dodge would you put the most PLAYED out Ford wheels on it?

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:37 PM
Nope, just inquiring about his doors, he's the one raggin Lambo doors, but you should type in "type R OEM optional sideskirts" on google and see what pops up. Don't forget to include the OEM part.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:39 PM
Nope, just inquiring about his doors, he's the one raggin Lambo doors, but you should type in "type R OEM optional sideskirts" on google and see what pops up. Don't forget to include the OEM part.
Your car has on a skirt?? I KNEW it!!!

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:39 PM
FUCK YEAH!!! If you bought a Dodge would you put the most PLAYED out Ford wheels on it?

LOL I love those rims, so yeah, I'd do something dumb like that. If you bought a Camaro, would you talk about the LS1 you're going to put into it...ah, fuck it, I don't have anything good or witty that is worth a damn for you on that one, you win.


I'm just sayin' you speak of lambo doors like their a curse (I concur), but their on the car in you sig. So apparently you don't have that big a problem with them

Here, I got you a shirt to go with your hat:
http://rlv.zcache.com/master_of_the_obvious_tshirt-p235738145052551123ya1g_400.jpg
It's called a joke of which I used myself as part of the butt of it. Sheesh, I didn't think that needed to be explained.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:42 PM
LOL I love those rims, so yeah, I'd do something dumb like that. If you bought a Camaro, would you talk about the LS1 you're going to put into it...ah, fuck it, I don't have anything good or witty that is worth a damn for you on that one, you win.
Let me help you........



Would you trade a perfectly set up GSXR 1000 for a good Typhoon then a Camaro only to take it apart 2 fucking years AGO and not put it back together when you have several LS1s in the garage? :(

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:42 PM
Your car has on a skirt?? I KNEW it!!!

^^^Fail. Most people refer to their cars as females (if your into naming your car etc...), on top of that, yeah, cars typically have side skirts (plural):D

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:45 PM
^^^Fail. Most people refer to their cars as females (if your into naming your car etc...), on top of that, yeah, cars typically have side skirts (plural):D
Auto, NA, Integra, with a muffler........that is almost as female is a Eclipse RS or V6 Mustang (with GHEY ass Cobra Rs :P )

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:47 PM
LOL I love those rims, so yeah, I'd do something dumb like that. If you bought a Camaro, would you talk about the LS1 you're going to put into it...ah, fuck it, I don't have anything good or witty that is worth a damn for you on that one, you win.




Here, I got you a shirt to go with your hat:
http://rlv.zcache.com/master_of_the_obvious_tshirt-p235738145052551123ya1g_400.jpg
It's called a joke of which I used myself as part of the butt of it. Sheesh, I didn't think that needed to be explained.

Stating the obvious again, you have a pretty large collection of "quoting" pictures, leads me to believe you start a lot of crap online... And you made a joke in which you were the butt of, that attacked no one??? That in of itself makes no sense...It's like striking a boulder with a double edged blade, your the only one who got hurt.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 08:49 PM
It's like striking a boulder with a double edged blade, your the only one who got hurt.
Depends on if it was a rubber boudler or the size of the blade.......analogy>you

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 08:52 PM
I got the tips cut off and turndowns put on, can this thread end now...

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:55 PM
Auto, NA, Integra, with a muffler........that is almost as female is a Eclipse RS or V6 Mustang (with GHEY ass Cobra Rs :P )

Going to address this one "issue" at a time, so you can keep up:
Automatic transmission
This is my first car. Got it as an auto, been in the process of collecting the parts to do the conversion and just had the last part shipped to my door yesterday, hopefully i'll start the conversion tommorow. Conversion isn't free so it took a while to buy all the parts

NA
My "mommy" and "daddy" don't support my hobby, so they don't give me money for things like boost. I wouldn't be able to afford to run premium gas and I plan on doing ITBs in the near future, so boost is no longer an option

Integra
http://www.vipergrafix.co.uk/images/jdmasfck.gif

Muffler
My car doesn't have a muffler. Apexi N1 canister, which I'm working on the custom piping for hopefully I can get that done next weekend. If your saying it needs a muffler..:bullshit:

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 08:57 PM
Depends on if it was a rubber boudler or the size of the blade.......analogy>you

LMFAO, did you really say that, even if it was rubber you would still hurt yourself.....think about it for a sec....(i'll give you a hint. Where's that handle on a double edged blade)

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:57 PM
Stating the obvious again, you have a pretty large collection of "quoting" pictures, leads me to believe you start a lot of crap online... And you made a joke in which you were the butt of, that attacked no one??? That in of itself makes no sense...It's like striking a boulder with a double edged blade, your the only one who got hurt.

I have no collection of quoting materials, all of my shit is from Google because I'll be damned if I am going to waste my own bandwidth on that shit. Also, the "joke" which you so conveniently were confused by made several references to other aSpeed events which predate your existence here; therefore, the "sense" which is non-existent to you is apparent to those who were meant to understand it. And, how would I be hurt by my own joke? Nice try, but you still lose.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 08:59 PM
(i'll give you a hint. Where's that handle on a double edged blade)

FAIL!

I'll give you a hint:
double edged blade =/= double bladed/ended sword.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 09:00 PM
Going to address this one "issue" at a time, so you can keep up:
Automatic transmission
This is my first car. Got it as an auto, been in the process of collecting the parts to do the conversion and just had the last part shipped to my door yesterday, hopefully i'll start the conversion tommorow. Conversion isn't free so it took a while to buy all the parts

NA
My "mommy" and "daddy" don't support my hobby, so they don't give me money for things like boost. I wouldn't be able to afford to run premium gas and I plan on doing ITBs in the near future, so boost is no longer an option

Integra
http://www.vipergrafix.co.uk/images/jdmasfck.gif

Muffler
My car doesn't have a muffler. Apexi N1 canister, which I'm working on the custom piping for hopefully I can get that done next weekend. If your saying it needs a muffler..:bullshit:
My first car was a stick (granted not as nice as yours).....Mommy and Daddy never paid for shit of mine from house to ANY of my 20+ cars. Please explain the difference between a canister and muffler. Would it be any louder without it? If yes, it muffles the sound......sounds like a muffler.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:00 PM
I have no collection of quoting materials, all of my shit is from Google because I'll be damned if I am going to waste my own bandwidth on that shit. Also, the "joke" which you so conveniently were confused by made several references to other aSpeed events which predate your existence here; therefore, the "sense" which is non-existent to you is apparent to those who were meant to understand it. And, how would I be hurt by my own joke? Nice try, but you still lose.

You stated yourself, you were the butt of your own joke. Whether you went and cried about it or not you hurt yourself by mocking your car.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:02 PM
You stated yourself, you were the butt of your own joke. Whether you went and cried about it or not you hurt yourself by mocking your car.

You have a lot of maturing to do my young padawan. When you can learn to laugh at yourself only then can you truly laugh with others (or some shit like that).

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 09:02 PM
Nice try, but you still lose.
Nice try but you admitted defeat already so you can't deem someone a loser

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 09:03 PM
You stated yourself, you were the butt of your own joke. Whether you went and cried about it or not you hurt yourself by mocking your car.
Have you seen his car? It is a mockery of all things good and righteous in the automotive customizing world.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:03 PM
Nice try but you admitted defeat already so you can't deem someone a loser

Yes I can. Just because I lost one game doesn't mean I can't win a different one later. :D Look at Auburn's football record (I would comment on Bama out of love for Auburn; however, when they had a perfect season, it doesn't leave much option).

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:06 PM
My first car was a stick (granted not as nice as yours).....Mommy and Daddy never paid for shit of mine from house to ANY of my 20+ cars. Please explain the difference between a canister and muffler. Would it be any louder without it? If yes, it muffles the sound......sounds like a muffler.

My first car upon recieval was not a stick, but I've noticed that problem and am in currently in the process of fixing it. If you read my introduction thread, my car wasn't nearly this nice when I got it (thanks for the compliment), I worked hard to get it here. The difference between a canister and the muffler is were the sound reduction material is. A muffler has that box right at the exhaust exit where the sound is deadened, while a canister relies on the catalytic converter to deaden the sound (which I had deleted). Right now my exhaust is essentially 3" straight piping to the canister. I'm working to do an axelback setup and reinstalling a cat to deaden the sound a great deal. I hate how loud it is, but i've been too poor to fix it til now.

CPMaverick
02-25-2010, 09:09 PM
Who paid for the car? If your parents gave you that car, then you whine about your parents 'not supporting my hobby', getting high and mighty, then you can fuck off. Some of use didn't get a free car, let alone 'hobby support'

And while your muffler may be shitty at reducing noise, it's still a muffler. It's called a canister muffler.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:09 PM
The difference between a canister and the muffler is were the sound reduction material is. A muffler has that box right at the exhaust exit where the sound is deadened, while a canister relies on the catalytic converter to deaden the sound (which I had deleted). Right now my exhaust is essentially 3" straight piping to the canister. I'm working to do an axelback setup and reinstalling a cat to deaden the sound a great deal. I hate how loud it is, but i've been too poor to fix it til now.
Muffler, canister. Potato, potato.

I hear your car all the time from my office at work (with the fucking window closed) and wonder if someone is weed wacking the magnolia tree right next to my window. It sounds like every other Honda out there with a fart can regardless of what you want to refer to it as.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:09 PM
FAIL!

I'll give you a hint:
double edged blade =/= double bladed/ended sword.

Touche, defeat by a technicallity. You understood the analogy though.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Touche, defeat by a technicallity. You understood the analogy though.


That's because I>>>You.

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:13 PM
I wouldn't be able to afford to run premium gas and I plan on doing ITBs in the near future, so boost is no longer an option



You know nothing of automobiles. You're going to run stock compression with ITB's? All that money and tuning for a couple horsepower? You think because you have ITB's boost isnt an option?

Logic fail.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:13 PM
Who paid for the car? If your parents gave you that car, then you whine about your parents 'not supporting my hobby', getting high and mighty, then you can fuck off. Some of use didn't get a free car, let alone 'hobby support'

And while your muffler may be shitty at reducing noise, it's still a muffler. It's called a canister muffler.

Whoes whining? My parents did help me purchase my 1st car before I was an enthusiast. I was simply stating they don't support me "building" cars, b/c they view it as a wasted investment, therefore I can't afford to boost my car, on my meager paycheck, while still in school. Though you may think i'm getting "high and mighty", if you check the current scene you'll realize a lot of the cars down here are built b/c someone has parents with deep pockets

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:15 PM
Muffler, canister. Potato, potato.

I hear your car all the time from my office at work (with the fucking window closed) and wonder if someone is weed wacking the magnolia tree right next to my window. It sounds like every other Honda out there with a fart can regardless of what you want to refer to it as.

LOL, if only you knew how often I was told that. I would've gladly corrected the problem earlier if you had thrown me the cash, but my fix was better than when the car was running open header when i got it.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:16 PM
My parents did help me purchase my 1st car before I was an enthusiast. I was simply stating they don't support me "building" cars, b/c they view it as a wasted investment, therefore I can't afford to boost my car, on my meager paycheck, while still in school. Though you may think i'm getting "high and mighty", if you check the current scene you'll realize a lot of the cars down here are built b/c someone has parents with deep pockets

You sound like you're pointing the finger saying everyone else here except you has mommy and daddy funding their "project" cars. I hope that is not the message you're attempting to send; however, that is how what you're saying is coming across. The end cannot be good for you if it is.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:20 PM
You know nothing of automobiles. You're going to run stock compression with ITB's? All that money and tuning for a couple horsepower? You think because you have ITB's boost isnt an option?

Logic fail.

Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:22 PM
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

bhwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:23 PM
You sound like you're pointing the finger saying everyone else here except you has mommy and daddy funding their "project" cars. I hope that is not the message you're attempting to send; however, that is how what you're saying is coming across. The end cannot be good for you if it is.

In no way am I trying to say that. I know people at DAAM now, who don't get anything from their parents, who are actually hindered by their parents. Atleast mine just leave me alone about it, I'm just saying boost is expensive and I'm poor. MOST of the people my age who are on boost are either not in school, in school pursuing a mechanical engineering degree, or have rich parents.

zmasterB
02-25-2010, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

LOL


All motor=way way way way way way way way more $$$ than a turbo setup to make 300hp.

Sense you make none :confused:

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

Filter goes onto suction of the turbo regardless of how many TBs you have. Output of turbo (on the intake side) goes to an intercooler then to the TB(s). You know nothing of automobiles

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:25 PM
Filter goes onto suction of the turbo regardless of how many TBs you have. Output of turbo (on the intake side) goes to the TB(s). You know nothing of automobiles

yeah but you can easily get 300hp with some ITB's..er wait no 200hp...well 180

Adam
02-25-2010, 09:27 PM
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag
quotin dis

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:30 PM
:bullshit: LOL


All motor=way way way way way way way way more $$$ than a turbo setup to make 300hp.

Sense you make none :confused:

LS Vtec, with b16 pistons puts my motor at 220 to the crank. Skunk2 cams along with ITBs would put me at very close to three hundred. Alot cheaper than a $1500 boost setup along with changing ECUs. And having to run premium gas. and the more frequent oil changes and on top of all that I drive a FWD non-LSD car. Boost makes no sense, it'll just spin. (I own everything but the cams and ITBs already as well)

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:31 PM
quotin dis

Why did you "quote dis"?

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:32 PM
:bullshit:

LS Vtec, with b16 pistons puts my motor at 220 to the crank. Skunk2 cams along with ITBs would put me at very close to three hundred. Alot cheaper than a $1500 boost setup along with changing ECUs. And having to run premium gas. and the more frequent oil changes and on top of all that I drive a FWD non-LSD car. Boost makes no sense, it'll just spin. (I own everything but the cams and ITBs already as well)

dude....just quit now. You seriously don't know anything about cars...just....stop

so you're gonna throw some parts and have a 300 crank 89 octane n/a ITB b-series on the stock ECU?......let me know how that works out.

VR4Rob
02-25-2010, 09:32 PM
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

Post of the mother fucking year.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:33 PM
Why did you "quote dis"?

quotin dis too.
Another thing that I am amazed needs to be explained.

Grider
02-25-2010, 09:33 PM
Why did you "quote dis"?

Because it was so ignorant he didn't know what else to do?:sadwave:

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:34 PM
:bullshit:

LS Vtec, with b16 pistons puts my motor at 220 to the crank. Skunk2 cams along with ITBs would put me at very close to three hundred. Alot cheaper than a $1500 boost setup along with changing ECUs. And having to run premium gas. and the more frequent oil changes and on top of all that I drive a FWD non-LSD car. Boost makes no sense, it'll just spin. (I own everything but the cams and ITBs already as well)

So you have a set of b16 pistons... congatulations also how do you plan to tune your ITBs, mister guy?

VR4Dani
02-25-2010, 09:35 PM
:bullshit:

LS Vtec, with b16 pistons puts my motor at 220 to the crank. Skunk2 cams along with ITBs would put me at very close to three hundred. Alot cheaper than a $1500 boost setup along with changing ECUs. And having to run premium gas. and the more frequent oil changes and on top of all that I drive a FWD non-LSD car. Boost makes no sense, it'll just spin. (I own everything but the cams and ITBs already as well)

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4889448/diggingbunnies-main_Full.jpg

Grider
02-25-2010, 09:36 PM
So you have a set of b16 pistons... congatulations also how do you plan to tune your ITBs, mister guy?

With unicorn farts and magic rays of moonlight.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:36 PM
dude....just quit now. You seriously don't know anything about cars...just....stop

so you're gonna throw some parts and have a 300 crank 89 octane n/a ITB b-series on the stock ECU?......let me know how that works out.

Who said I was gonna continue running 89octane or have a stock ECU. I'm sorry I'm not listing out every detail of every mod I plan on making to my car. My only point is making 300hp will be a lot more practical N/A than on boost. If it isn't tell me why not, i've already admitted to being new and not doing much research on turbo setups, but saying I know nothing is a step beyond ridiculous. I couldn't drive my car knowing nothing.

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:38 PM
Who said I was gonna continue running 89octane or have a stock ECU. I'm sorry I'm not listing out every detail of every mod I plan on making to my car. My only point is making 300hp will be a lot more practical N/A than on boost. If it isn't tell me why not, i've already admitted to being new and not doing much research on turbo setups, but saying I know nothing is a step beyond ridiculous. I couldn't drive my car knowing nothing.

You said you could afford to switch ecus...

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:38 PM
So you have a set of b16 pistons... congatulations also how do you plan to tune your ITBs, mister guy?

I knew the car would've have to be tuned simply from changing to b16 pistons. And i'll take it to a shop to be tuned, just like most others, same for the ITBs

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:39 PM
I see a lot of people everyday who know nothing and continue breathing, driving isn't too far of a stretch from there (especially with an auto).

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:39 PM
http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4889448/diggingbunnies-main_Full.jpg

Might as well dig to china

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:39 PM
At first it was funny, now it's just kinda sad. It's like kicking a kitten.

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 09:39 PM
So it would have been easier for me to get 100whp N/A with the Geo, rather than with the turbo.

Well fuckmerunningmargo...

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:40 PM
Might as well dig to china


Fuck that, I don't want to see your ass there too. :D

Oh, FYI, most don't go around touting HP numbers at the crank; if that were the case, I'd have 1,000,000CHP.

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:41 PM
At first it was funny, now it's just kinda sad. It's like kicking a kitten.

F@ck kittens

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:41 PM
You said you could afford to switch ecus...

OMG, I own a Hondata ECU, got it for free (family deal). I don't know if i'll have to switch to run boost. If I do, then my point stands. If not I've already said I didn't know

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:41 PM
F@ck kittens

now you're talking. I thought I was the only one into that.

Grider
02-25-2010, 09:42 PM
At first it was funny, now it's just kinda sad. It's like kicking a kitten.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/Kittengun.jpg

Adam
02-25-2010, 09:42 PM
this is the only thread in the history of aspeed i am glad i reopened

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:42 PM
I have a rocket ship, that runs on 87 octane.... (family Deal)

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:43 PM
OMG, I own a Hondata ECU, got it for free (family deal). I don't know if i'll have to switch to run boost. If I do, then my point stands. If not I've already said I didn't know

Kids get a free Hondata S300 when the parents each get an entree.

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:44 PM
Damnit I want a coloring book.

TheWill
02-25-2010, 09:45 PM
Who said I was gonna continue running 89octane or have a stock ECU. I'm sorry I'm not listing out every detail of every mod I plan on making to my car. My only point is making 300hp will be a lot more practical N/A than on boost. If it isn't tell me why not, i've already admitted to being new and not doing much research on turbo setups, but saying I know nothing is a step beyond ridiculous. I couldn't drive my car knowing nothing.
YOU ARE FUCKING HIGH, go ahead and try to make 300whp N/A on that honda motor. I am sure that jess could strap a rocket to that CRV before you could do that... I really do find you a sad little person .. I really do.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:46 PM
Fuck that, I don't want to see your ass there too. :D

Oh, FYI, most don't go around touting HP numbers at the crank; if that were the case, I'd have 1,000,000CHP.

I'm not touting anything, I'm stating my goal. 300hp at the crank is enough to stretch a true type R and that is my goal before I get rid of this car...Also I like how your defenses for me knowing nothing are just a bunch of snash remarks with little backing. I can't compete with the knowledge of everybody in the forum simultaneously, but I can work on my own car when it breaks. And help my friends when theirs breaks. So i think I've come away for just gettin into the scene a lil under a year ago

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 09:47 PM
Do you need a Christian side hug?

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:47 PM
I'm not touting anything, I'm stating my goal. 300hp at the crank is enough to stretch a true type R

300hp would murder a Type-R but that's besides the point because you AINT/CAN'T GONNA MAKE 300HP

TheWill
02-25-2010, 09:48 PM
300hp would murder a Type-R but that's besides the point because you AINT/CAN'T GONNA MAKE 300HP
QFT, he must be listening to people on Honda-tech

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:49 PM
My phone holding sticky pad thingy says type R, but you need 500hp to beat it.

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:50 PM
My phone holding sticky pad thingy says type R, but you need 500hp to beat it.

it's not the hp with those things, its the tq.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:50 PM
I can't address all the comments being made. 10 of ya'll type faster than me, and I realize 300hp would slaughter a type R, but saying 300 N/A on a honda motor is impossible is ridiculous. K20s do it all day with just a little work, but if my goal is only to stretch a type r by a few cars, me falling short of 300hp is not gonna kill my goal. I can beat a type R N/A that's my point

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:51 PM
But its na, It couldnt spool a turbo fast enough.

Swine
02-25-2010, 09:51 PM
Post of the mother fucking year.

x2^2 bahahahahhahahahah....this thread went from no material to a winner!!:bubbrubb: :rolllaugh :35:

If you recall i proclaimed this thread needed to continue to exist. Therefore i should get credit for aiding in thread of the year.


God im already laughing just thinking about quoting ganji's post in the future...hahahah

Ganji, no offense man, you seem like an alright kid with a decent sense of humor. I just wish you knew what we did and can look at your posts. Better yet, come back in 4-6 years on continued car modding spending a good portion of your free time reading and learning about cars...then dig this thread back up. Then get a tatoo, whatever you see fit.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 09:51 PM
I'm not touting anything, I'm stating my goal. 300hp at the crank is enough to stretch a true type R and that is my goal before I get rid of this car...Also I like how your defenses for me knowing nothing are just a bunch of snash remarks with little backing. I can't compete with the knowledge of everybody in the forum simultaneously, but I can work on my own car when it breaks. And help my friends when theirs breaks. So i think I've come away for just gettin into the scene a lil under a year ago

We all have to start somewhere, some sooner than others. I love my snash (which isn't even a fucking word, try "snide" next time) remarks. I have used my knowledge of cars (which is also less than others on this board) to logically conclude that you know nothing of cars based on what you have posted; so, my proof is in your text. I feel sorry for your soon to be ex-friends when they stop talking to you after you break their shiz.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 09:52 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this has gotten much better. If a 4 cylinder can't spool a turbo fast enough for your liking a 300 NA motor will have the low end torque you crave?? WTF!!! Correct me if I am wrong but a 300 hp NA motor wouldn't start to make power until 4500+ right? You might say you are a newbie and want to learn but everything you say seems so certain.

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Ohhh, you have a K20...I must have missed that part...

Nstig8r
02-25-2010, 09:53 PM
Speaking from experience as someone who HAS spent 5 figures on building an N/A Integra, you are the DUMBEST MF I have ever seen roam around these parts!!

TheWill
02-25-2010, 09:54 PM
I can't address all the comments being made. 10 of ya'll type faster than me, and I realize 300hp would slaughter a type R, but saying 300 N/A on a honda motor is impossible is ridiculous. K20s do it all day with just a little work, but if my goal is only to stretch a type r by a few cars, me falling short of 300hp is not gonna kill my goal. I can beat a type R N/A that's my point

Ok, i am going to be nice. I am going to give you all the facts you need here.

Honda motor + Supercharger = SUCK
Honda Motor + Turbo = Full of win/Cheap if you do it right
Honda Motor +N/A = sounds awesome but cost twice as much as turbo to make it go half as fast as turbo.

K motor swap... if you cant afford an ECU off a non family deal then you will never in your lifetime be able to afford a K swap they are at least 7-10k for the entire swap... I mean seriously.

Maggie
02-25-2010, 09:55 PM
this is the only thread in the history of aspeed i am glad i reopened
I am not glad you reopened it! It is getting in the way of my task of packing! I can't step away from the computer!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs097.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Jess
02-25-2010, 09:57 PM
I am not glad you reopened it! It is getting in the way of my task of packing! I can't step away from the computer!
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs097.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

It's like a train wreck in slow motion execept....well it's exactly like a train wreck in slow motion.

Hindi
02-25-2010, 09:57 PM
Ok, i am going to be nice. I am going to give you all the facts you need here.

Honda motor + Supercharger = SUCK
Honda Motor + Turbo = Full of win/Cheap if you do it right
Honda Motor +N/A = sounds awesome but cost twice as much as turbo to make it go half as fast as turbo.

K motor swap... if you cant afford an ECU off a non family deal then you will never in your lifetime be able to afford a K swap they are at least 7-10k for the entire swap... I mean seriously.

Special K swap = lower cholesterol

VR4Rob
02-25-2010, 09:58 PM
Special K swap = lower cholesterol
Second best post of the year.

TheWill
02-25-2010, 09:59 PM
Special K swap = lower cholesterol
I thought that was cheerios... eh what are you gonna do.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 09:59 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this has gotten much better. If a 4 cylinder can't spool a turbo fast enough for your liking a 300 NA motor will have the low end torque you crave?? WTF!!! Correct me if I am wrong but a 300 hp NA motor wouldn't start to make power until 4500+ right? You might say you are a newbie and want to learn but everything you say seems so certain.

Most honda motors don't start making power til 5500rpms, when they hit vtec anyway. Not chasing high torque numbers, as long as I can rev out to 8500rpms it won't matter (which a type r will do all day). And i'm not saying a 4cylinder won't spool a turbo, but to spool a turbo big enough to get my car to 300hp from 130hp, I would end up having to sleave the block, build the head, and everything else imaginable just to not blow the motor.

Also no I don't have a K, but if I build a b series motor and can't beat a type r still, i'll sell the b series and upgrade. Wouldn't take much more out of my pocket for a motor/tranny and mount kit.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:00 PM
But its na, It couldnt spool a turbo fast enough.
GTFO

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:01 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this has gotten much better. If a 4 cylinder can't spool a turbo fast enough for your liking a 300 NA motor will have the low end torque you crave?? WTF!!! Correct me if I am wrong but a 300 hp NA motor wouldn't start to make power until 4500+ right? You might say you are a newbie and want to learn but everything you say seems so certain.

Snash is a word http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/snash

VR4Rob
02-25-2010, 10:01 PM
Most honda motors don't start making power til 5500rpms, when they hit vtec anyway. Not chasing high torque numbers, as long as I can rev out to 8500rpms it won't matter (which a type r will do all day). And i'm not saying a 4cylinder won't spool a turbo, but to spool a turbo big enough to get my car to 300hp from 130hp, I would end up having to sleave the block, build the head, and everything else imaginable just to not blow the motor.

Also no I don't have a K, but if I build a b series motor and can't beat a type r still, i'll sell the b series and upgrade. Wouldn't take much more out of my pocket for a motor/tranny and mount kit.

Please, tell us more of your intricate knowledge of cars, naturally aspirated engines, and forced induction. I am hanging on the edge of my seat to hear your next response.

jsta240
02-25-2010, 10:02 PM
is this real?

TheWill
02-25-2010, 10:02 PM
Most honda motors don't start making power til 5500rpms, when they hit vtec anyway. Not chasing high torque numbers, as long as I can rev out to 8500rpms it won't matter (which a type r will do all day). And i'm not saying a 4cylinder won't spool a turbo, but to spool a turbo big enough to get my car to 300hp from 130hp, I would end up having to sleave the block, build the head, and everything else imaginable just to not blow the motor.

Also no I don't have a K, but if I build a b series motor and can't beat a type r still, i'll sell the b series and upgrade. Wouldn't take much more out of my pocket for a motor/tranny and mount kit.
O M G... reading your post make me wanna drink drano... seriously. That motor stock will make make 250-275 all day long and stock type R's only make 185-200whp... sooooooooo yeah... 35

Jess
02-25-2010, 10:02 PM
Most honda motors don't start making power til 5500rpms, when they hit vtec anyway. Not chasing high torque numbers, as long as I can rev out to 8500rpms it won't matter (which a type r will do all day). And i'm not saying a 4cylinder won't spool a turbo, but to spool a turbo big enough to get my car to 300hp from 130hp, I would end up having to sleave the block, build the head, and everything else imaginable just to not blow the motor.

Also no I don't have a K, but if I build a b series motor and can't beat a type r still, i'll sell the b series and upgrade. Wouldn't take much more out of my pocket for a motor/tranny and mount kit.

dude...just...STOP. Nothing you say makes any sense. I'm not even going to pick apart each sentence. It's just all wrong. My weed wacker runs at 15k rpm.

edit: also there are 10 billion stock LS motors making 300whp with boost.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:04 PM
O M G... reading your post make me wanna drink drano... seriously. That motor stock will make make 250-275 all day long and stock type R's only make 185-200whp... sooooooooo yeah... 35

Yeah, i know that. That's why I said i would only need a motor/tranny and mount kit. never mentioned any mods...However don't let that stop you from takin a sip

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 10:04 PM
Um....you have a Honda 4 cylinder.......torque.....you will have little. NA FI whatever unless you are going balls out, you could make 300 hp and what 225 tq? My fucking ATT van makes more than that

Nstig8r
02-25-2010, 10:04 PM
Most honda motors don't start making power til 5500rpms, when they hit vtec anyway.

5500 is NOT when most Honda motors switchover to VTEC. Usually it is around 4400rpm. 5800 is when the dual stage manifold in the B18C5 switches to the longer runners... Oh, and BTW, not every Honda has VTEC.

In other words, STFUYMFFF. Educate yourself before shitting yourself all over these forums...

Jess
02-25-2010, 10:05 PM
Yeah, i know that. That's why I said i would only need a motor/tranny and mount kit. never mentioned any mods...However don't let that stop you from takin a sip

only a mount kit? what about K-Pro?..oh yeah and like $10k

TheWill
02-25-2010, 10:05 PM
Yeah, i know that. That's why I said i would only need a motor/tranny and mount kit. never mentioned any mods...However don't let that stop you from takin a sip
WAT? I am so lost now, so what you are saying is that you want to spend 5k to put a type r motor in your car? or you want to build a ls/vtec with 300crank hp n/a.. .or you want to go to the moon? I am dont fucking know anymore

VR4Rob
02-25-2010, 10:06 PM
WAT? I am so lost now, so what you are saying is that you want to spend 5k to put a type r motor in your car? or you want to build a ls/vtec with 300crank hp n/a.. .or you want to go to the moon? I am dont fucking know anymore

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/astronaut.jpg

I've never heard someone know so little and talk so much around people who actually do.

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 10:06 PM
This thread is moving faster than a meth smoking snail trying to get away from a salt shaker

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:07 PM
dude...just...STOP. Nothing you say makes any sense. I'm not even going to pick apart each sentence. It's just all wrong. My weed wacker runs at 15k rpm.

edit: also there are 10 billion stock LS motors making 300whp with boost.

Okay, I'm pretty sure a bone stock LS motor can't stand the PSI needed to make 300whp, or else everybody in an LS would just go on boost. Regardless of there being 10,000,000,000 LS motors making 300whp for sale. People still buy them, so are you saying it would be impossible for me to sale mine, cuz that's ridiculous

Nstig8r
02-25-2010, 10:07 PM
Please, tell us more of your intricate knowledge of cars, naturally aspirated engines, and forced induction. I am hanging on the edge of my seat to hear your next response.

Several of us here might as well quit our day jobs and come take training for Gaski Suki or whatever his name is... He obviously knows more than us.

Grider
02-25-2010, 10:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/popcorn_scoop_boxes.jpg

Jess
02-25-2010, 10:08 PM
Okay, I'm pretty sure a bone stock LS motor can't stand the PSI needed to make 300whp, or else everybody in an LS would just go on boost. Regardless of there being 10,000,000,000 LS motors making 300whp for sale. People still buy them, so are you saying it would be impossible for me to sale mine, cuz that's ridiculous

I'd be willing to bet cash money there are at least 2,000 people in the US with stock LS motors making 300whp. (with boost of course)

Hindi
02-25-2010, 10:08 PM
Okay, I'm pretty sure a bone stock LS motor can't stand the PSI needed to make 300whp, or else everybody in an LS would just go on boost. Regardless of there being 10,000,000,000 LS motors making 300whp for sale. People still buy them, so are you saying it would be impossible for me to sale mine, cuz that's ridiculous

There are like 10,000,000,000 turbo'd ls cars...

TheWill
02-25-2010, 10:09 PM
Okay, I'm pretty sure a bone stock LS motor can't stand the PSI needed to make 300whp, or else everybody in an LS would just go on boost. Regardless of there being 10,000,000,000 LS motors making 300whp for sale. People still buy them, so are you saying it would be impossible for me to sale mine, cuz that's ridiculous
THere is literally a 900+ page thread on H-T that is nothing but turbo LS motors... they make great power for what they are. I agree the head doesnt flow the best but why else would everyone be running them turbo if they couldnt handle it. Secondly you could do a turbo with a 600 dollar vtec head and some extra parts adn have a beast like ricky does.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:10 PM
only a mount kit? what about K-Pro?..oh yeah and like $10k

Really? I don't think so
http://www.acuraworld.com/forums/f102/k-pro-sale-so-cal-77894/

I'm trying to build an LS Vtec motor, to beat a type R and simply stating that it would be cheaper than boost, because I already have most of the parts necessary

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 10:11 PM
Should we advertise this thread to the entire interwebz for epicness???

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 10:11 PM
so are you saying it would be impossible for me to sale mine, cuz that's ridiculous

Yes, it would be impossible for you to sale yours. Now, sell it, that is something else. Oh, wait, you tried that too:
http://www.forums.aspeedracing.com/showthread.php?t=12187

You know nothing of cars.

Dude, on a serious note, in person, you're not half bad of a guy, you're just taking everything here too damn literal (well, the Honda knowledge, can't help you there, I know how to maintain an Honda, not mod one); this is supposed to be fun (albeit, at your expense).

I'm trying to build an LS Vtec motor, to beat a type R and

Why not just save your money from building the LS motor and buy a Type R and go from there? :confused:

Grider
02-25-2010, 10:11 PM
THere is literally a 900+ page thread on H-T that is nothing but turbo LS motors... they make great power for what they are. I agree the head doesnt flow the best but why else would everyone be running them turbo if they couldnt handle it. Secondly you could do a turbo with a 600 dollar vtec head and some extra parts adn have a beast like ricky does.

LOL You are getting told how to turbo a car from WILL. WILLIAM! ROFL. I love this thread like a fat kid loves cake. And I *know* how much a fat kid loves cake.

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Really? I don't think so
http://www.acuraworld.com/forums/f102/k-pro-sale-so-cal-77894/

I'm trying to build an LS Vtec motor, to beat a type R and simply stating that it would be cheaper than boost, because I already have most of the parts necessary

Please list all the parts you already have.

TheWill
02-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Really? I don't think so
http://www.acuraworld.com/forums/f102/k-pro-sale-so-cal-77894/

I'm trying to build an LS Vtec motor, to beat a type R and simply stating that it would be cheaper than boost, because I already have most of the parts necessary
Do you know how much is involved in a K swap???? Also the Ls/Vtec will have better torque but beat a type R n/a for n/a... i dont think it will happen.

Jason- Hahah i have bought enough turbos i should know a little something, if not how to sell them at a discounted rate weeks after buying them.

VR4Rob
02-25-2010, 10:13 PM
LOL You are getting told how to turbo a car from WILL. WILLIAM! ROFL. I love this thread like a fat kid loves cake. And I *know* how much a fat kid loves cake.
3rd best post of the year. Jason and Will earn my bronze medal :P

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:13 PM
There are like 10,000,000,000 turbo'd ls cars...

Yeah, but not with bone stock motors. And the ones that do have a 300hp setup won't be running for much longer.If your point is it's easier to attain 300hp with a turbo i'll agree, but it's not cheaper by any means. sure i could do a vtec head and turbo and have a beast like ricky, but I wouldn't be able to afford to put gas in my car everytime i hit high boost

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:15 PM
5500 is NOT when most Honda motors switchover to VTEC. Usually it is around 4400rpm. 5800 is when the dual stage manifold in the B18C5 switches to the longer runners... Oh, and BTW, not every Honda has VTEC.
In other words, STFUYMFFF. Educate yourself before shitting yourself all over these forums...

You say this like your telling me something I don't know. I drive an LS....

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 10:16 PM
Keep it outta boost and the fuel mileage will be close to the same...

Also, if you can't afford to put premium in a 4 banger, you shouldn't be driving a car...

(OMGz $4.00 extra per tank. Oh noes)

Grider
02-25-2010, 10:16 PM
I'm just going to place this right over here....


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/1165488872572.jpg

TheWill
02-25-2010, 10:16 PM
Yeah, but not with bone stock motors. And the ones that do have a 300hp setup won't be running for much longer.If your point is it's easier to attain 300hp with a turbo i'll agree, but it's not cheaper by any means. sure i could do a vtec head and turbo and have a beast like ricky, but I wouldn't be able to afford to put gas in my car everytime i hit high boost


THEN DONT DO IT!!!! You know the sharks will stop circling if you quit chumming the waters right??

Hindi
02-25-2010, 10:18 PM
Keep it outta boost and the fuel mileage will be close to the same...

Also, if you can't afford to put premium in a 4 banger, you shouldn't be driving a car...

(OMGz $4.00 extra per tank. Oh noes)

Really, I shit on $4.00 then use it to buy a snack with.... but your going to spend the same money on your ITB setup as you would a turbo setup anyway...

Nstig8r
02-25-2010, 10:19 PM
You say this like your telling me something I don't know. I drive an LS....

Then why did you even mention it, you dumbass??

Hindi
02-25-2010, 10:19 PM
THEN DONT DO IT!!!! You know the sharks will stop circling if you quit chumming the waters right??

Nope he's aready been bittin, and now he's bleeding out.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:19 PM
Yes, it would be impossible for you to sale yours. Now, sell it, that is something else. Oh, wait, you tried that too:
http://www.forums.aspeedracing.com/showthread.php?t=12187

You know nothing of cars.

Dude, on a serious note, in person, you're not half bad of a guy, you're just taking everything here too damn literal (well, the Honda knowledge, can't help you there, I know how to maintain an Honda, not mod one); this is supposed to be fun (albeit, at your expense).



Why not just save your money from building the LS motor and buy a Type R and go from there? :confused:

I'm not interested in continued ownership of a Honda. I simply want to beat the pinnacle model of my car, with the base model. And for you to say that's impossible is quite ridiculous, everybody here has stated both cars have little torque, so that's not a factor. So by simply producing larger numbers to the crank i should be able to win with a few other factors to account for

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 10:20 PM
Wouldn't the ITB setup be hard to tune like a multi carb setup or do they get out of sync? I know nothing about them so I am just asking.....if there is room for fancy learnin' in this here thread.

Jess
02-25-2010, 10:21 PM
Yeah, but not with bone stock motors.


wrong

And the ones that do have a 300hp setup won't be running for much longer.


double wrong

If your point is it's easier to attain 300hp with a turbo i'll agree, but it's not cheaper by any means.


triple wrong

Turbo-GeoMetro
02-25-2010, 10:22 PM
When this thread is over and done with, will i be remembered as the one who basically caused it's creation?

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:22 PM
Then why did you even mention it, you dumbass??

Never said all hondas had VTEC. I said they hit their powerband aroudn 5500 and you corrected me saying 4400

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 10:22 PM
I'm not interested in continued ownership of a Honda. I simply want to beat the pinnacle model of my car, with the base model.
How many Type Rs are running around still? How likely is this "race" going to be I haven't seen a Type R in several years. If you want to beat one why do you have the Type R OEM be sure to include OEM wing and side skirts on your car?

TheWill
02-25-2010, 10:22 PM
I'm not interested in continued ownership of a Honda. I simply want to beat the pinnacle model of my car, with the base model. And for you to say that's impossible is quite ridiculous, everybody here has stated both cars have little torque, so that's not a factor. So by simply producing larger numbers to the crank i should be able to win with a few other factors to account for
ARE YOU SERIOUS???? You want to do all this just so you can beat a type R... thats it. Thats what your ultimate goal in this WHOLE thread is??

Jess
02-25-2010, 10:23 PM
Wouldn't the ITB setup be hard to tune like a multi carb setup or do they get out of sync? I know nothing about them so I am just asking.....if there is room for fancy learnin' in this here thread.

bitch to tune/esp idle but the butterflies are always synced

VR4Dani
02-25-2010, 10:23 PM
The ITB we're all refering to is "in the butt" right?

I think so.

AlmosN8kd
02-25-2010, 10:23 PM
I'm not interested in continued ownership of a Honda.


Yet you tried to sale (I mean, sell) yours and then decided to keep it?

And for you to say that's impossible is quite ridiculous, everybody here has stated both cars have little torque, so that's not a factor. So by simply producing larger numbers to the crank i should be able to win with a few other factors to account for

Whoa dude, you're in dire need of a break as you're confusing my less than witty insults with those who have just plain dropped real knowledge on you. I never once said anything was possible/impossible about what you're doing; that was those that know more than me. As I stated in my post which you quoted, I know how to maintain a Honda, not mod one.

Grider
02-25-2010, 10:23 PM
I think you should start with a titanium block...

skyhighsami
02-25-2010, 10:24 PM
When this thread is over and done with, will i be remembered as the one who basically caused it's creation?
No....you will always be remembered as the kid who turbo'd a Geo. Like the career long bridge builder who sucks one dick.....always a dick sucker never a bridge builder.

Genji Sama
02-25-2010, 10:24 PM
Keep it outta boost and the fuel mileage will be close to the same...

Also, if you can't afford to put premium in a 4 banger, you shouldn't be driving a car...

(OMGz $4.00 extra per tank. Oh noes)

I'm not saying i'm gonna DD on high boost, i'm saying its more practical for me to make 300hp N/A so when I do push the gas I don't have to go fill up. Plenty of people drive cars that they can't afford to put premium in that's why there are lower grades of gas.....

Jess
02-25-2010, 10:24 PM
I think you should start with a titanium block...

and a custom grind spoon cam that doesn't exist.