Genji...

[Turbo-GeoMetro]

Please stop. These threads will NEVER end so long as you continue to say that you will/can get 300hp out of a n/a b18, no matter the mods.

No matter what mods you would put on the b18, it will NEVER make 300hp(crank) as a daily driver. It "might" be possible for 300hp on a 1 or 2 run drag motor, but not anything more than that. Even then you'd be looking at 10k for a motor that will make 1 or 2 passes.

What most of the people are trying to say is that you could boost your car, get 250whp(300 crank) fairly easily. You could piece together a very nice kit for right around $2000-$2500. The car would still be a very good DD, and would be quicker than a 300hp n/a motor due to the tq it would have because of the turbo. It would still get great gas mileage, so long as you stay out of boost. So long as you maintained the car like normal, and had the car properly tuned, there's no reason for the car not to last a very very long time.

Please belive what i'm telling you. Just admit that you were wrong on the 300hp n/a motor, that you are not as smart with cars as you originally thought, and stop pissin these people off.

[Genji Sama]

You seem like a nice person and all, but for me to admit that I know less than I originally thought I knew about cars is not gonna happen, because I never boasted an intimate knowledge of these subjects. I simply stated my plans for my engine and my goals, which so happens to be 300chp. If that isn't possible then it's not, but I'll still end up beating a Type R. I realize I could beat a Type R on boost all day, but I don't trust myself to build a reliable 300horse DD turbo setup on my first build ever. Nor do I want to take the easy way out. I want to beat a type R motor to motor. I want to do this with an LS b/c I feel if I can beat Hondas pinnacle with their base, then I've progressed in my skill set and knowledge. If I just learn how to build turbo setups that's all i'll know. These threads are about to die anyway, because i'm not posting as frequently and most of the people who were addressing me the most have all settled their squabbles and understand the real purpose of me stating the number 300. It's just a number to set me safely above my goal to beat a type R, if i fall short by 40 or even 50chp, I'll still walk a type R

[Genji Sama]

I know it doesn't make real sense to try and do this all motor when I could do it on boost, but it's kinda the same as you boosting a metro. I'm just doing it to see if i could.

[Turbo-GeoMetro]

I try to help and you go and post that.

Why are you so hardheaded. Seriously???

What you are NOT understanding is that you will spend more money on an n/a build, it will be much LESS reliable, it will not be NEAR as fast as a turbo setup, it will not be driveable on a day-to-day basis, and will get shitty gas mileage.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Genji Sama]

[SIZE="6"]I try to help and you go and post that.

Why are you so hardheaded. Seriously???

What you are NOT understanding is that you will spend more money on an n/a build, it will be much LESS reliable, it will not be NEAR as fast as a turbo setup, it will not be driveable on a day-to-day basis, and will get shitty gas mileage.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calm the fifty font down. I understand that. I know this endeavor will cost a lot more money, I'm not doing it for profit, doing it for simple experience. I'm also not trying to compete with a turbo car, I know it will be slower than a car making the same power as me with a turbo, b/c of the lack of torque, but i'm not gonna race a turbo type r. And for it not being drivable. ITRs are a lot of peoples DDs. I could beat one by making 15 more hp, that's still DD. I've already stated 300chp is only a number to put me safely in my goal if I walk a type R before then I have no rezon to continue for that number and will not. I'll start a boost car, I've always like the sound of a BOV, but that's not my current endeavor. Understand after last night I realize how impractical this is. I'm simply doing it to, do it (I don't have to make 300chp, just beat a type R)

[Turbo-GeoMetro]

Fuck it, I give up...have fun

[insert_car]

forget this poor kid. he'll find out the hard way, wonder why it happened, and then blame us for "not" warning him.


LOL

[Genji Sama]

Fuck it, I give up...have fun

I'm sorry. It seems your only real goal is to get me to do a turbo. If not why instead of dumping 1200 into that metro, why didn't you just buy a civic si, it'll run 16s all day...stock. I would think a person who has done something ridiculous on the car scene, would understand. If your giving up on convincing me to do boost, your not the first in line and your probably not the last. I've clearly explained all I want to do is beat a type R, to clarify I'm beating a type R on a budget of less than $10,000..What KBB says one in good condition will cost. I'm gonna show a type R owner they wasted there money when they could've built an LS for less that runs faster. If yall are saying it'll cost 10k to build a 300chp all motor car, and all i'm trying to do is beat a type R which has about 190whp, then I should be good on my budget and with my goals. If your saying that is impossible I'll bet you i'll bet you 2 bills it's not. To clarify the bet, I can build an LS that will beat a type R for under $10,000.

[Jess]

i've said it 80 billion times but you do not need anywhere NEAR 300hp to comfortably beat an ITR in a straight line. 220 would be plenty and there's a huge difference between 220 and 300

[XSivPSI]

I'm gonna show a type R owner they wasted there money when they could've built an LS for less that runs faster.

logic fail.

I realize I could have quoted anything you've posted and my statement would still be true but this was particularly funny.

[Jess]

an LS thats faster than a type R is just that. The ITR will be much more reliable, run a shit ton lot smoother, handle better, brake better, get way better fuel economy than a mythical NA 300whp ITB LS.

Plus it'll still sell for over 2x what yours will and it would be cheaper overall

[VR4Dani]

an LS thats faster than a type R is just that. The ITR will be much more reliable, run a shit ton lot smoother, handle better, brake better, get way better fuel economy than a mythical NA 300whp ITB LS.

Plus it'll still sell for over 2x what yours will and it would be cheaper overall

logic win!

[VR4Rob]

I'm sorry. It seems your only real goal is to get me to do a turbo. If not why instead of dumping 1200 into that metro, why didn't you just buy a civic si, it'll run 16s all day...stock. I would think a person who has done something ridiculous on the car scene, would understand. If your giving up on convincing me to do boost, your not the first in line and your probably not the last. I've clearly explained all I want to do is beat a type R, to clarify I'm beating a type R on a budget of less than $10,000..What KBB says one in good condition will cost. I'm gonna show a type R owner they wasted there money when they could've built an LS for less that runs faster. If yall are saying it'll cost 10k to build a 300chp all motor car, and all i'm trying to do is beat a type R which has about 190whp, then I should be good on my budget and with my goals. If your saying that is impossible I'll bet you i'll bet you 2 bills it's not. To clarify the bet, I can build an LS that will beat a type R for under $10,000.

http://img329.imageshack.us/ifs/15/img168/4/want.jpg

[AlmosN8kd]

OMFG! Kyle goes out of his way on multiple occasions asking you in as nice of a manner as any stranger over the internet can to shut the fuck up and you spout off your "knowledge" again? Dood, GTFO!

Adam, I vote BAN once you've had your fill of this. I'm ready to go for another round and there is plenty of material here in this new thread contradicting a bunch of B.S. spewed yesterday and it's the fucking weekend.

We need to go back to the days of bashing noobs on their entry and not letting them get comfortable first.

[Shifty]

Who cares. The kid isn't screwing anyone but himself. Let him learn the hard way.

[Hindi]

I'm sorry. It seems your only real goal is to get me to do a turbo. If not why instead of dumping 1200 into that metro, why didn't you just buy a civic si, it'll run 16s all day...stock. I would think a person who has done something ridiculous on the car scene, would understand. If your giving up on convincing me to do boost, your not the first in line and your probably not the last. I've clearly explained all I want to do is beat a type R, to clarify I'm beating a type R on a budget of less than $10,000..What KBB says one in good condition will cost. I'm gonna show a type R owner they wasted there money when they could've built an LS for less that runs faster. If yall are saying it'll cost 10k to build a 300chp all motor car, and all i'm trying to do is beat a type R which has about 190whp, then I should be good on my budget and with my goals. If your saying that is impossible I'll bet you i'll bet you 2 bills it's not. To clarify the bet, I can build an LS that will beat a type R for under $10,000.

Kyle could have bought a ED9 with them money he spent on shit he didnt use... but theres pride to be had in beating a mustang gt in a metro. That was his goal he did it, and now hes moving on with a better motor. You however are doing something, that even when finished, still wont be special. All you will have is just another 14sec Honda ( if you beat your ITR) then all the ITR has to do is spend for acouple cheap bolt-ons and you in the chase again....

[zmasterB]

Ok it just keeps sucking me back in :emo:

I'm still in *UNCLE!* mode, so these are just some observations I cant resist......

In the other thread you said:
Setting the goal to beat a type R, is not b/c I have it out for type Rs.

Yet in here we've gotten:

I'll still end up beating a Type R.
I want to beat a type R motor to motor.
I'll still walk a type R
if I walk a type R before then I have no rezon to continue for that number and will not.
I don't have to make 300chp, just beat a type R
all I want to do is beat a type R
I'm gonna show a type R owner they wasted there money when they could've built an LS for less that runs faster.

No.....some type R somewhere did something to you........all this built up angst against the type R........me no believe-y your statement from the other thread........



To clarify the bet, I can build an LS that will beat a type R for under $10,000.

$10K? $10K? Good Lord you know what I could roll outta my shop with 10 grand? Gah nevermind........

Not beating the dead horse anymore.......I'm starting to feel retarded:tard:

[zmasterB]

Adam, I vote BAN once you've had your fill of this.

We need to go back to the days of bashing noobs on their entry and not letting them get comfortable first.


Naw fuck that, this is entertaining (or was?)........not to mention, the kid seems OK enough, at least he's got some pretty thick skin apparently......he's just somewhat misinformed, & backs up & punts on what he said previously a lot.....or at least keeps evolving or changing it somehow or something of that nature....... Dammit again, me=:tard:



Yea that was a sorta endearing feature of this joint, sure roots out the tough ones that really want to participate from the whiny bitches :wiggiesmo

What we need up in here now (or at least yesterday) is some good 'ol A5p33d Cr1m3 B055

[Nsparks]

These threads look llike so much fun! :)


http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w39/schizogony/I_like_where_this_thread_is_going.jpg

[Pegasus_Red]

A fool and his money are soon parted...
/thread


this hate against a hype r sounds reminiscent like something out of Formula D series...

[Grider]

No.....some type R somewhere did something to you........all this built up angst against the type R........me no believe-y your statement from the other thread........

A Type R killed his father.

[Shifty]

I have to admit that I do get slightly puzzled when people are building cars to beat some unmodified car.

[adam p]

Kyle could have bought a ED9 with them money he spent on shit he didnt use... but theres pride to be had in beating a mustang gt in a metro. That was his goal he did it, and now hes moving on with a better motor. You however are doing something, that even when finished, still wont be special. All you will have is just another 14sec Honda ( if you beat your ITR) then all the ITR has to do is spend for acouple cheap bolt-ons and you in the chase again....

You know what. I'm going to take his side here.

I don't think Kyle is really the person to be calling him out on this (and why does everyone care so much that this kid wants to build all all-motor Integra?) The whole "beat a Type R" schtick is pretty damn ricey . . . but I mean really,

what the HELL is the difference between making a 3cyl Geo beat a Mustang GT (which is about as impossible AND dumber than a 300hp NA LS integra) and Genji's plans? Kyle has probably wasted more money on his 16 sec Metro than this kid ever will on his Integra.

Special? If I could be given this kid's Integra or Kyle's Geo, I'll take his Integra just how it stands (and I'd of course paint it and put wheels on it immediately). In fact, if I had to pick the project I'd much rather build up an interesting NA Integra build than touch a turbo Metro, and it would be much more fun to drive. In review, I think his plans for his Integra are less dumb than Kyle's Metro.

It's hypocritical to get mad at someone for doing something for the sake of doing it when your car is MORE pointless and a bigger waste of money.

Look, as Genji gets more experienced, his tastes will probably change. He won't care about Type R's, he'll probably like his car to be one color, and he may even prefer turbos. Who knows, but he isn't like Ricer of the Year or anything around here. We have ALL BEEN THERE, who cares what he wants to do with his car. Yes, he doesn't know how turbos work (which is why he doesn't want one), and his power goals are outrageous (again just ignorance), but I don't think his general plans for his car are fundamentally stupid. Who freaking cares.

[Turbo-GeoMetro]

Well I would say there is a signifagant(sp?) differance in our two cars and what we wanted to do with them. I think it's fun taking a car that runs 20s nd making it a 14 second car. How many turbo'd integras do you see around, or even built n/a? Now ask that question and substitute metro nd it suddenly isn't so common. Also I'll freely admit that ive wasted waaaaaay too much money on the geo, but I've learned from my mistakes. Please don'tet this turn into a geo bashing thread.

[Genji Sama]

Why is it hard to believe I don't have anything against type Rs. I like the car I wanted one for quite some time, but then I thought. Well anybody with a little cash to sling can buy a type R, but how many people can build a can build a car to compete with a type R. The only reason you can quote me so many time saying I want to beat one is because everybody keeps asking why my power goal is so ridiculous. And after doing a little research I've learned what you guys mean about how it'll be a 1 or 2 run drag motor. Because it would most likely sling a rod, blow the head, or countless other things. But my goal is set to beat a type R. To simplify turn my 17.4 sec car into a less than 14 sec car all motor. The metro's goal was to improve his time by 6 secs mine is to improve by 3.5 all motor. Why is it necessary for me to flamed and banned for this?

[AlmosN8kd]

Why is it necessary for me to flamed and banned for this?

You were flamed for repeatedly telling those who are in the "know" that they were wrong and you were right. Had you done your research or admitted that what you had previously stated was incorrect or mistaken then it wouldn't have been quite the same.

The statements here:
And after doing a little research I've learned what you guys mean about how it'll be a 1 or 2 run drag motor. Because it would most likely sling a rod, blow the head, or countless other things. But my goal is set to beat a type R. To simplify turn my 17.4 sec car into a less than 14 sec car all motor.are a complete 180 degrees out from what you have previously stated.

It still seems to me that you've yet to admit you were wrong at any point in time which is, in fact, wrong.

[Genji Sama]

You were flamed for repeatedly telling those who are in the "know" that they were wrong and you were right. Had you done your research or admitted that what you had previously stated was incorrect or mistaken then it wouldn't have been quite the same.

The statements here:
are a complete 180 degrees out from what you have previously stated.

It still seems to me that you've yet to admit you were wrong at any point in time which is, in fact, wrong.

Find the quote where I told people who are in the "know" that they are wrong....I reiterate "Where I told someone that they are wrong". Not where I stated I would rather do my own research. Or made a claim that 300chp was not impossible ,but where I said somebody that they were wrong. Your clinging on to anything you can to have something to flame me about. 1st it was about how I "liked" VIP cars. 2nd about how my plan to attain 300chp was impossible (I'll admit impractical, but impossible, not). 3rd about how my goals were stupid to beat a type R. Now it's cuz I said somebody was wrong. I honestly think your just bored and need someone to flame.

[AlmosN8kd]

Fuck that, you can look it up yourself. You wouldn't believe anything that was posted by those who know what they're talking about which is the same damn thing has telling them they're wrong. And, I'm sure your research wasn't done on the internet either because you learned to stop listening to people on the internet (which is what YOU said) which is also telling them they're wrong.

I'm not out to flame you at every possibility that you post something and in fact I have tried to be nice as I never flamed you about your like for VIP cars, I said I didn't like them; I never flamed you for for saying 300HP NA was possible (I stayed out of that conversation on the express statement that I don't know shit about modding a Honda, READ THE FUCKING THREAD), and I never flamed you about your goal of beating a Type R with an LS motor (NOTE: when you don't win with your LS and go to a K-series, you're no longer racing with an LS regardless of what chassis it is in, just FYI), I did, however, recommend starting with a Type R or some other platform with more potential and have a more tangible goal). Kyle, Adam, myself, and others even tried to help you and finally got sick of your bullshit (don't make me dig up the JDM garbage where several others including me fucking out right told you were fucking wrong which you ignored (which is the same as telling them they're wrong)) so you have a long way to go before you're going to get any form of decency from me.

[AlmosN8kd]

A Type R killed his father.


The Type R is his father.

[Shifty]

but how many people can build a can build a car to compete with a type R.

No one can compete with a type R, no one.

[adam p]

Find the quote where I told people who are in the "know" that they are wrong....I reiterate "Where I told someone that they are wrong". Not where I stated I would rather do my own research. Or made a claim that 300chp was not impossible ,but where I said somebody that they were wrong. Your clinging on to anything you can to have something to flame me about.

I agree. You never said that people were wrong about anything, and yes these people are just bored. They are actually expecting you to be a stupid ricer with your head stuck up your ass who thinks he knows everything, but you are making it hard because you haven't acted like that. In fact, you always said "Well if I can't do it I'll have a more powerful car, change the motor to a K series and try again." You never said you knew you were right, but in fact said you wanted to learn. Some people need to stop making shit up.

And to Kyle - I don't want to bash the Geo at all. It's not that I think your car is stupid, I'm saying that if his car is stupid then your car is more stupid by the same logic. I think BOTH of you should do what makes you happy with your cars. If we are going to bash his car just because it's not the most cost effective way to go fast then we should be hating on you too.

He set a goal for his car - faster than any factory naturally aspirated Integra - that isn't unrealistic at all (disregarding any hopes for 300hp). He doesn't want to turbo his car because he says he doesn't know how and therefore doesn't trust the reliability. Who cares. He doesn't want to buy some car and make it as fast as possible for the money, he wants to build a car and learn. Who cares.

PS - Genji seriously go like Ebay your XBOX or something and buy some GSR wheels, then your car will actually look alright.

[Nsparks]

I always thought that such things as modifying a vehicle other than to make

it more reliable was impractical. (But amazing and addicting :rock: ) It's a hobby!

Are we going to flame grandma for spending to much on thread for her quilts

because she wants to double pattern (Meaning her quilts don't have to be

double patterned but she did it because she was going for a unique/upgrade)?

It's up to the owner of the vehicle to decide how much to spend. If he wants

to spend 10k (which is crazy! :O) more power to him.

And yes I compared quilting to Cars. :nuts:

Also, (I'm speaking to the elders of the tuesday meets) I hope the presence

of my tinted tail lights doesn't offend you. :P Seriously tho, I really enjoy

coming out to the Auburn meet but I to also feel there is some immaturity

around. I only hope that if my actions are presentable and if they aren't y'all

should let me know.

[Jess]

Well anybody with a little cash to sling can buy a type R, but how many people can build a can build a car to compete with a type R.

Yeah but...you're acting like people with Type-R's have more money than other people when in fact you're willing to spend even more to make a (possibly faster) but overall inferior car.

And to answer your question..err sentence. "How many people can build a car to compete with a type R". A lot of people can...

I can understand getting a base model LS and making a better overall product than their flagship trim for LESS money, but when you're spending MORE money it makes absolutely no sense. If you want to split hairs, what makes "sense" differs from person to person but c'mon.

When you go shopping and get a buy one get one free, do you insist to the cashier that you want to pay full price for each one?

[zmasterB]

what the HELL is the difference between making a 3cyl Geo beat a Mustang GT (which is about as impossible AND dumber than a 300hp NA LS integra) and Genji's plans? Kyle has probably wasted more money on his 16 sec Metro than this kid ever will on his Integra.

See also: Sam's Deathwagon or DL, or Kenny's 740

.....as in some car that most would laugh at outrunning a "muscle car" or "sports car" & shoving some humble pie down the owner's throat is hilarious, even epic.

An Integra beating another Integra.......not so much. Thats the difference.




PS - Genji seriously go like Ebay your XBOX or something and buy some GSR wheels, then your car will actually look alright.

100% agreeance on this :P

[Swine]

No one can compete with a type R, no one.

bahaha:5-0:

[CPMaverick]

I agree. You never said that people were wrong about anything, and yes these people are just bored.

I disagree. He definitely said people were wrong about what was JDM. He also implied that people were wrong often; such as when people said he could go faster, cheaper he would reply with a post like 'but I would have to fully build my engine to turbo' and when others said no, he disagreed. He also insisted that no LS engine could last at 300 hp turbo'd even when others said otherwise. Shit he must have disagreed with Jess 20 times in that thread, and that is the same thing as telling someone they are wrong.

[linuxman51]

I dunno, I don't see someone disagreeing with someone else as being wrong. You simply don't agree... like paint color or whatever.

[CPMaverick]

I dunno, I don't see someone disagreeing with someone else as being wrong. You simply don't agree... like paint color or whatever.

Fair enough, but that's if you are talking about opinions. Which some of those cases in the thread probably were, but not all.

[Jess]

I dunno, I don't see someone disagreeing with someone else as being wrong. You simply don't agree... like paint color or whatever.

You can disagree about paint color - you can't disagree about the earth being flat or that you are not a dirty jewbag trick slut.

also, eat my balls.
























with a side of my anus

[CPMaverick]

Possibly, some of these comments are open to interpretation... the statements can have multiple meanings as they are clearly encrypted.

I my uncle, the person who helps me on my car helping me.

[zmasterB]

A Type R killed his father.

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0902/die-princess-bride-die-dying-prepare-demotivational-poster-1233766182.jpg

[insert_car]

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/0902/die-princess-bride-die-dying-prepare-demotivational-poster-1233766182.jpg

one of the greatest movies of all time and so many people have not seen it.

[Genji Sama]

@ Jess. No, I'm not acting like type R owners have all sorts of money to sling. If I were targeting rich people my target would be all these e92 335i's rolling around campus. I said doing the build under $10k because a good unmolested ITR cost about $9k, so I would be building a faster car for less. And even though the car may have a better suspension, etc.... It was built as a race car that's why some models (i.e 1996 ITRs, I believe, not sure) were built w/o sound dampening material, power windows, and AC (the luxuries).

@ ZmasterB. An LS integra and an ITR are in two different leagues, it's not a simple Teg vs. Teg. That's why on Team Integra and Honda Tech, discussions about Integras are categorized by ITRs and all other tegs. An the bottom line is i'm increasing the performance of my car regardless of what the physical representation of my target speed.

@ the comments about me saying "someone was wrong". Linux has addressed that. Thank you

@ the comments about my wheels. I would go with the GSR blades, but to the extent of my knowledge the largest size (only size) they're made in is 15s and I really wanna go with a size 16 rim on my car. I'm not quite sure which color or style I wanna go with. I'm open to suggestions. lug patter is still 4x100, if you wanna make any, or know of any good wheels in that pattern and size. I believe the offset is -36, not 100% on that though.

[AlmosN8kd]

@ the comments about me saying "someone was wrong". Linux has addressed that. Thank you


:fuckoff:

Here, you clearly told me I was wrong; no, the word "wrong" was never used in this paragraph; however, it is most clearly a statement which says what you know is right and what others know is wrong; SAME FUCKING THING AS TELLING THEM THEY'RE WRONG:

Manufactured in japan, but not part of the Japanese Domestic Market. Yeah, that makes sense. (I'll leave you to find the sarcasm in that) It's obvious I have no clue what I'm talking about. It's only how i knew that the chassis of your car is practically identical to that of the 3000gt and the car was made in japan. It's okay though if it makes you feel better about you self winning this argument you can.

And, multiple people have told you you're a fucking retard for thinking this bullshit yet you refuse to admit YOU WERE FUCKING WRONG! The thread is full of this kind of bullshit slung all over the fucking walls. You know nothing of automobiles. GTFO.

[linuxman51]

You can disagree about paint color - you can't disagree about the earth being flat or that you are not a dirty jewbag trick slut.

also, eat my balls.

with a side of my anus

look you dumb wop, the earth is an oblique spheroid, you're still undocumented, and despite years of your best efforts I don't do the whole scat thing, you'll have to hit up some krauts for that you non-reacharounding assfucker

[Jess]

you'll have to hit up some krauts for that you non-reacharounding assfucker

I told you my fucking wrists hurt. You're like a broken record. Always bringing up old shit :(

[Genji Sama]

:fuckoff:

Here, you clearly told me I was wrong; no, the word "wrong" was never used in this paragraph; however, it is most clearly a statement which says what you know is right and what others know is wrong; SAME FUCKING THING AS TELLING THEM THEY'RE WRONG:



And, multiple people have told you you're a fucking retard for thinking this bullshit yet you refuse to admit YOU WERE FUCKING WRONG! The thread is full of this kind of bullshit slung all over the fucking walls. You know nothing of automobiles. GTFO.

....Your boring me. Out of all the technical crap, In that thread you bring up an discussion on the definition of JDM. Regardless, your still clinging to anything you can to prove I "know nothing of cars". You must realize by know this is a futile effort (taking that phrase literally of course);
1) If I knew nothing of cars, my car would still look stock, b/c I wouldn't have known which parts to buy for my car or how to install them (big point, pay attention)
2) Short and simple, this one is....I wouldn't be able to drive my car (like my syntax:D )
3) I've maintaned a discussion w/ just about everyone on this board yourself included. Would you entertain a discussion with a 3rd grader on physics, "no". Because they would have no idea what they were talking about. You would leave. I have 60+ pages on 3 different threads of you entertaining me, so either we're both 3rd graders or I know something. (Your Turn)

[AlmosN8kd]

....Your boring me. Out of all the technical crap, In that thread you bring up an discussion on the definition of JDM. Regardless, your still clinging to anything you can to prove I "know nothing of cars". You must realize by know this is a futile effort (taking that phrase literally of course);
1) If I knew nothing of cars, my car would still look stock, b/c I wouldn't have known which parts to buy for my car or how to install them (big point, pay attention)
2) Short and simple, this one is....I wouldn't be able to drive my car (like my syntax:D )
3) I've maintaned a discussion w/ just about everyone on this board yourself included. Would you entertain a discussion with a 3rd grader on physics, "no". Because they would have no idea what they were talking about. You would leave. I have 60+ pages on 3 different threads of you entertaining me, so either we're both 3rd graders or I know something. (Your Turn)

Your =/= You are = You're. You still haven't learned shit.

Yes, you can do a few select things like change the appearance of an automobile and drive an automatic. Which, I previously stated:
I see a lot of people everyday who know nothing and continue breathing, driving isn't too far of a stretch from there (especially with an auto).
Don't take your vast knowledge of slapping some cosmetic bullshit onto your car as a wealth of education when it comes to cars. You still firmly believe that you can build your N/A motor to beat an Integra Type-R for less than it would cost you to boost it. As you stated several times:

My only point is making 300hp will be a lot more practical N/A than on boost. If it isn't tell me why not, i've already admitted to being new and not doing much research on turbo setups
and
And i'm not saying a 4cylinder won't spool a turbo, but to spool a turbo big enough to get my car to 300hp from 130hp, I would end up having to sleave the block, build the head, and everything else imaginable just to not blow the motor.
and
If your point is it's easier to attain 300hp with a turbo i'll agree, but it's not cheaper by any means. sure i could do a vtec head and turbo and have a beast like ricky, but I wouldn't be able to afford to put gas in my car everytime i hit high boost
and
I'm not saying i'm gonna DD on high boost, i'm saying its more practical for me to make 300hp N/A so when I do push the gas I don't have to go fill up. Plenty of people drive cars that they can't afford to put premium in that's why there are lower grades of gas.....

Oh, and let's not forget this little gem of wisdom about cars:
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

And, to reiterate what EVERYONE ELSE TOLD YOU:
All motor=way way way way way way way way more $$$ than a turbo setup to make 300hp. Sense you make none :confused:
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Ok, i am going to be nice. I am going to give you all the facts you need here.

Honda motor + Supercharger = SUCK
Honda Motor + Turbo = Full of win/Cheap if you do it right
Honda Motor +N/A = sounds awesome but cost twice as much as turbo to make it go half as fast as turbo.
and (no need to "sleave the block, build the head, and everything else")
also there are 10 billion stock LS motors making 300whp with boost.
and
I'd be willing to bet cash money there are at least 2,000 people in the US with stock LS motors making 300whp. (with boost of course)
and
There are like 10,000,000,000 turbo'd ls cars...
and
THere is literally a 900+ page thread on H-T that is nothing but turbo LS motors... they make great power for what they are. I agree the head doesnt flow the best but why else would everyone be running them turbo if they couldnt handle it. Secondly you could do a turbo with a 600 dollar vtec head and some extra parts adn have a beast like ricky does.
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No its not impossible, its 100% impossible on an LS motor with only B16 pistons,cams, Hondata & ITB's. K20's & K24's are a whole 'nother bowl of wax from what you have, dont even try to compare a K & B series LOL

you could run a reasonably small turbo & easily get the 300hp result. Tuning the ecu correctly is the key to not blowing out a sleeve....detonation kills motors not turbo's. Go research that statement :rolleyes:

Will (h8ter on here) had a CRX a few years ago.......bone ass stock B16A1, T3 Super 60 turbo (small, responsive, made full boost at 2800ish rpm), simple little setup......245whp (thats a little over or right at 300 crank, incase you're not aware of that)

Are you serious? Doesnt the "all motor" section on Honda-Tech have the subtitle "for the deep pocket people"? (I know I've seen that somewhere) Do you even have a clue what it would really take to get 300 NA hp outta an LS motor? There have probably been a million posts while I was making this one, but here lemme break some of it down for you:
1. Extensive head porting by someone that KNOWS what they're doing (big $$)
2. Lightweight/knife edged crank, (big $$)
3. Cams (probably something mo betta than what you gots)
4. Lightweight, strutted pistons ( more $$) & probably at LEAST 12:1 compression (there goes your fucking pump gas out the window)
5. Need I continue?

Where are you getting your information? Please show a REAL example of just ONE LS or even LS-Vtec 1.8L making this power you speak of with only B16 pistons & cams.



Again ARE YOU SERIOUS? Its called BRAKE SPECIFIC FUEL CONSUMPTION......It takes the SAME AMOUNT OF FUEL TO MAKE 300HP EITHER WAY :omg: A turbo setup would actually have stock driveability & fuel mileage when out of boost, & once in boost, ITS THE SAME DAMN DIFFERENCE AS STANDING OFF IN 300 ALL MOTOR HP......& the all motor will be a high comp, huge cammed, cantankerous s.o.b.

Once again, sense, you make none........

Of course, what do I know :bullshit: :emo: :tard: :tard: :cripple: :cripple: :cripple:
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My Integra (VTEC) probably made 240-250hp, and it was an ornery SOB. Making the 300+hp that you are taking about making is basically building FULL BLOWN, ONE RUN drag motor. It is NOT something you can drive on the street. Here is one that makes "only" 270hp...

Link, sorry. HTML embedding is disabled on this forum... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luDgWR6IgYg)
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Speaking from experience as someone who HAS spent 5 figures on building an N/A Integra, you are the DUMBEST MF I have ever seen roam around these parts!!
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Dude seriously:

What everyone is saying is this: For you to make 300hp on an n/a b18, you would have to get some crazy expensive stuff for the motor(much more than just pistons, cams, itbs...), and plus the engine would probably only last 1 or 2 passes at a dragstrip.

It is not possible to make a DD (<Daily Driver) 300hp n/a b18, end of story. Now if you were to boost the car, 300hp would be feasable for a day to day basis. It would have to run premium but it could still be a DD.

Please realize this.
and...Well you get the idea, I could go on and on at proving you wrong with shit in the thread but you still don't fucking get it. You still don't know shit about cars; you could have spent the money you used to buy fake OEM wings and side skirts and on shitty mis-matched paint with runs in the clear coat to buy a 1-off turbo kit then had enough left over to fill up a few times. It is more fun to beat someone when you have an ugly car that they underestimate than to try to have a good looking car that loses. And, don't make me dig up your extensive knowledge of body work as claybarring runs out is all sorts of WRONG. You're still WRONG and you have yet to admit it (notice none of the above includes anything about your complete lack of knowledge of what is/isn't JDM; i.e. you're wrong about LOTS OF SHIT). None of this has anything to do with ME; this is all a result of your making. I'd rather have the conversation with a 3rd grader about physics because at least they're learning something and not too stubborn to fucking admit they didn't know it. And, having taught the subject multiple times, I'd say I enjoy it more than talking with an ignorant fuck like you. Just admit you were fucking WRONG, open up your mind to what was said, STFU, and learn something. Until then, GET THE FUCK OUT!

[Genji Sama]

.....Your still boring me. In addition to you proving to me that you have nothing better to do that to quote a shit ton of people on the internet. You've moving back and forth b/w "well, now it's time to prove him wrong here, now there, now here again". Honestly, you need to go do something productive with your day. You've already stated several times that I won't learn anything so why are you still trying. IMO, it's b/c your bored as shit. I really don't know what your getting out proving me wrong. Though I didn't take the time to read through all those quotes, you've quoted me before saying "I'm new on the scene". So after that how do you get "I have a vast amount of knowledge about cars" I haven't explicitly said that, I've simply stated what I knew and some stuff I thought I knew.
In addition, how can you say with a straight face that "It's supposedly more fun to beat someone in an ugly car than to lose in a nice one" You stated yourself, that your car was slow, yet you have lambo doors and cobra wheels on your car. I presume to make it look better. Even if that did make since, your now attempting to redefine my definition of fun. Is there any logic in that??? What you need to do is let me build my car and I'll let you build yours. Calm down with all your CAPS LOCK profanity, because quite frankly it only makes you look pathetic. Just think, in all the time you've wasted in this thread you could've washed your car 4x and been as CLEAN as I am (I do realize I made this joke at my expense ((I like your LAMBO DOORS!!!) GET IT, HUH? UNDERSTAND:D ))

[Genji Sama]

^^^ oh hell, I forget to Bold Face "Your". Signifying "I don't give a damn about your english lesson". Still just clinging to anything you can.

[Shift6]

And, having taught the subject multiple times, I'd say I enjoy it more than talking with an ignorant fuck like you. Just admit you were fucking WRONG, open up your mind to what was said, STFU, and learn something. Until then, GET THE FUCK OUT!
I think you're taking this a bit too seriously.

[AlmosN8kd]

.....Your still boring me.
^^^ oh hell, I forget to Bold Face "Your". Signifying "I don't give a damn about your english lesson". Still just clinging to anything you can.
Usually there's three types or spelling errors on forums.

1. typos ; happens to everyone, no big deal

2. lazy ; no effort at proofing or don't care enough to bother with spelling. Apathy doesn't elicit or deserve much response IMO.

3. uneducated ; really no idea how to spell. This usually also includes grammar and punctuation errors (or total lack of).

Of course there's a 4th (true learning disability) but I left that out on purpose.

While it might not be a spelling bee, if you want your post to be understood as intended then words DO matter as well as punctuation and grammar. The words you post are a visual others have as to your education level. Poorly written and structured sentences are misunderstood easily.

So sure, not everyone has a PhD in English. But on the other hand they probably graduated high school. So when the spelling isn't even up to 7th grade level it is very hard to decipher at most and just sad at least.

Since English is what you use to communicate with others in the world why would someone not want at least a 12th grade level of ability? And throughout life your written communication represents you - why wouldn't a person make the effort to improve?

You say you are in college which has an English requirement. Do you feel you don't need to improve to or it isn't important in your life? Don't you even want to have at least 12th grade education in your language?

IMO it is sad to see people that don't know the difference between, say, 'break' and 'brake' or 'your' and 'you're' and many other basic examples like that. Honestly, how can someone graduate high school with such a lack of English? (I already know the answer and it is the crappy public school systems).

It also seems that each successive generation is getting worse. Isn't that funny considering that more and more communication is done via written text than face to face (ex: the internet, texting, etc.). Just plain sad.

Nothing here is meant to attack your lack of a basic education. But your English skills (ie - lack of) stick out like a sore thumb man. It is impossible to overlook because it is so glaring! But on a general basis I have to agree that posts that have such extreme lack of proper spelling & grammar can be trying at times. Especially when it gets to where you've no idea what the person even means. To take someone as an educated person at any level is hard when they obviously cannot even grasp 7th grade English.

BTW - spell check isn't a substitute for basic education. Just like a calculator a substitute for basic 5th grade math.

Sorry that our education system might have failed you as a child but you can always improve easily. IF you want to. Perhaps you feel it doesn't matter. Well guess what? In the big world out there it does matter if you expect to interact with other educated people. They might not say anything but don't kid yourself that it isn't noticed. It is.

Good luck and I hope that you consider doing something to improve yourself in education areas that you are weak in. It would not be wasted and you might find you like being able to write and converse with others on more of an educated level.

In addition to you proving to me that you have nothing better to do that to quote a shit ton of people on the internet. You've moving back and forth b/w "well, now it's time to prove him wrong here, now there, now here again". Honestly, you need to go do something productive with your day.

No, your dipshit ass wanted to be proved that you didn't say anyone else was wrong so I fucking proved to you that you said just that in a matter of words and who told you that you were smoking crack. Yet, you refuse to believe any of it because no one can possibly know more than you. And, don't you worry about my day, I've been getting work done all while making you look more and more like a fool. Unlike you, I have the ability to multitask.


You've already stated several times that I won't learn anything so why are you still trying.

Well stated, you won't learn anything. Why don't you just quit college while you're at it? Since you won't learn anything.

IMO, it's b/c your bored as shit.

Wrong. And, no one gives a shit about your opinion; keep it to yourself.

I really don't know what your getting out proving me wrong.

As I told you before, I tried to be nice, I tried to be helpful, and then I just got sick of your shit. So, now, I'm spending the few minutes of my time it takes, to devalue anything you post. I find it to be quite fun actually considering how easy you make it.

Though I didn't take the time to read through all those quotes, you've quoted me before saying "I'm new on the scene".

That is sad, you should have read the quotes again as then you might have learned something and improved yourself. Sad. Oh, and about the "scene" I'm just going to leave this right here:
the 1st problem is that you think there is a "scene".

the only scene is the one you have made on here.
I suppose I'm slightly guilty of that second part as well; so be it, I can live with that.

So after that how do you get "I have a vast amount of knowledge about cars" I haven't explicitly said that, I've simply stated what I knew and some stuff I thought I knew.

You're the one who keeps claiming to know about cars and then every time someone corrects something you "think" you know, you get defensive about it. And, when someone reminds you that you know nothing of cars, you take it to mean a complete literal as in you can't figure out how to open the fucking door. The shit you claim to know is damn near an innate behavior; so, I'll remind you yet again, you know nothing about cars; that is not to say you cannot learn, just that you have to shut up and listen to what is said first.

In addition, how can you say with a straight face that "It's supposedly more fun to beat someone in an ugly car than to lose in a nice one" You stated yourself, that your car was slow, yet you have lambo doors and cobra wheels on your car. I presume to make it look better.

Your presumption is only half correct; you can do the research as to why. I never said it was wrong to improve the appearance of your car; my statement was to say that you claim to have no money to buy/build a turbo kit yet you spout off about all the time/money/effort that you put forth to change your rebuilt wreck of a red Integra into what it is now. That is completely different than how you read my statement.

Even if that did make since, your now attempting to redefine my definition of fun. Is there any logic in that???

Wrong.

What you need to do is let me build my car and I'll let you build yours. Calm down with all your CAPS LOCK profanity, because quite frankly it only makes you look pathetic.

You don't listen to things when someone writes them in a nice non-profane manner so it would appear as though profanity is the only thing you'll at least pay attention to; but, I've got myself on lock, no need to take advice from a dumbass like you. And, you're the last person on earth who should ever give lessons one what is or is not pathetic; just look at your sig, your avatar, and that pile in your parking spot. Don't forget to look in the mirror while you're out learning what is truly pathetic.

Just think, in all the time you've wasted in this thread you could've washed your car 4x and been as CLEAN as I am (I do realize I made this joke at my expense ((I like your LAMBO DOORS!!!) GET IT, HUH? UNDERSTAND:D ))

My car is clean, I had a complete detail done on it some time ago by someone who knows more about maintaining cosmetics than me (yes, appearance does have value with me as well, again, your presumption was half correct). And, I don't drive it very often, keep it under a cover, and in a garage. So, I just saved 4x worth of cleaning right there to do other more constructive things.


I think you're taking this a bit too seriously.
Perhaps you're right.

[Genji Sama]

....:D I couldn't help but smile at that. If you seriously thought I was going to take the time to read all that. You're sadly mistaken. However, I did skim over it. A few remarks about my education, few more about my car, and some about how I was wrong, because in no way did you attempt to tell me what fun is. So i'll break it down like you did, but not as long b/c I have better things to do in my day.

@ the remarks about my education..... Plain and simple. I got accepted to the same University you did and from what I've been told the standards have only been on a rise in the past 20 years. So what does that say about your education. I'm sorry all my responses are proof read and typed with the utmost grammatical proficiency, I know we all take this board so seriously.

@ the remarks about my car..... My car a fail, pffft. You drive a Dodge w/ Lambo doors and Ford wheels. Cross breeding cars = FAIL. On top of that with all your swapping turbos and larger intercoolers, your car is still slow. and apparently you mistook my application of the word "clean" during my joke. I meant the aesthetic value of the car, not how shiny your paint is....moron

@ the remark in which you simply typed the word "wrong".... What? You clearly stated that making your car faster is what is fun, not making it look better. Clean & cut you tried to define fun to me. To say otherwise is moronic....oh wait, your excused.

@ the remark about my only comprehension coming through profanity.... The majority (I believe only, but refuse to re-read the thread to prove so) of your attempt to educate me on anything have been through CAPS LOCK and profanity. Still I "haven't learned anything" according to you atleast, but the same can be said to you, because though I clearly stated that your boring me, and your willingness to type those long ass replies only proves what a squanderance of matter your existence is. You continue to do so, leading me to believe that you have also lack the capability to learn from people on the internet...Welcome to the 3rd grade (hopefully you'll comprehend this joke, since the reference is more recent)

And just to emphasize, I really don't care about your english lessons, so you can take that :bullshit: elsewhere. I've managed to maintain my "A" in english just fine w/o you, y español tambien. My language skills are quite alright, don't you worry.

[Shifty]

Is this shit still going on?

[Grider]

Is this shit still going on?

You've got Shawn who is never wrong and Smug Genji there who just has to have the last word ... so yeah its still going on. :D

[IronMonkey]

die....im command you.....

[adam p]

Where's the rotating door icon? Somebody? I literally just scrolled through multiple walls of text. So many trolls around here you'd think we were under a bridge.

[AlmosN8kd]

Plain and simple. I got accepted to the same University you did


No, you did not go to the same University I did, so STFU. Just like everything else in your past idiotic rant and every other ignorant post of yours, you assume to know more than you do. So, as always, you're WRONG. But, nice job calling all the Auburn Alums stupid and sub-standard, I'm sure they love being told that by someone like you; only you could manage to stir the pot that well.

[VR4Dani]

So many trolls around here you'd think we were under a bridge.


Word.

[Genji Sama]

No, you did not go to the same University I did, so STFU. Just like everything else in your past idiotic rant and every other ignorant post of yours, you assume to know more than you do. So, as always, you're WRONG. But, nice job calling all the Auburn Alums stupid and sub-standard, I'm sure they love being told that by someone like you; only you could manage to stir the pot that well.

Never did I call AU Alums "stupid" or "sub-standard". I stated that the standard have risen. Just because you percieved me to have said that doesn't mean I said it.....Whatever University you did graduate from should have made a heavier emphasis on Reading Comprehension. But it is nice to know that out of that the only thing you could comment on was how I was wrong about us going to different Universities. And your response was noticeably shorter, congrats, you learned something. It's also nice to know that I can entertain a 30 year old so well, I would expect that you would be above this situation, but guess not. Oh well, I've already told you that you can declare yourself winner of this little bout whenever your ready. Notify me when that moment arrives, if you don't mind.

[AlmosN8kd]

Never did I call AU Alums "stupid" or "sub-standard".

In the form of a statement no less.

Plain and simple. I got accepted to the same University you did and from what I've been told the standards have only been on a rise in the past 20 years. So what does that say about your education.

Reading comprehension >>>> You

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

FTFY.

[Genji Sama]

blah, blah, blah,
FTFY.

LMAO. Touché.

[A418t81]

Who the hell cares about a Type R? They were quick for what they were 10 years ago. Even with your 10k engine, you'll still be given fits by V6 Accords and Camrys

Also, not anybody can buy a type R as evidenced by yourself and the fact that there aren't that many to buy. LOTS of people buy civics and integras with the goal of being faster than the pinnacle of that platform...the Type R. So you see, you are in the vast majority.

[linuxman51]

y español tambien.

Na, wir mussen diese dreck-sack mahl wieder nach auschwitz bringen, um seine gross-eltern kennen zu lehrnen.

Es ist nur noch den Duchen, junge!

[A418t81]

:rolllaugh :rolllaugh

[dixond]

I've never heard of someone so hard-headed and pridefully ignorant aiming so low while intentionally putting themselves at such a disadvantage, that they probably won't even reach their otherwise-attainable goal.
Whoever said that this was a slow-motion train wreck was very accurate in their description.
I look forward to your build thread. Not that I will be ribbing you or criticizing you every step of the way, but instead because I am curious as to when the moment of realization will actually hit you that all of these people, through the derogatory and sometimes over-the-top remarks, were right all along.

[adam p]

Hell dude. Want a faster Honda? An S2000 is cheaper than a Type R. I sold my (pretty nice) one for $10.5k, with a new clutch. Going strong. As fast as a Type R, more fun to drive, better looking, better motor, RWD. You can even build one if your want. Buy an 8k one, replace the softtop, rebuild the motor yourself. BAM, cheap, super reliable and fresh motor, and you learned how to build it. Great.

[VDUBNDizzy]

Who wants to argue what color the sky is?

[dixond]

I can count to potato.

[jsta240]

Im ron burgundy?

[FST 05]

This thread makes the Indian cry


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z128/fst05/funny%20pics/crying-indian_fullhead80p.jpg

[AlmosN8kd]

LMAO. Touché.

Well played sir. :thumbsup:

I truly expected more of a rise from you in your response. :D

The sky is blue.

Anyhow, I think I'm done trolling for awhile; my apologies to Adam and the rest of the guys.

[Genji Sama]

Na, wir mussen diese dreck-sack mahl wieder nach auschwitz bringen, um seine gross-eltern kennen zu lehrnen.

Es ist nur noch den Duchen, junge!

Ich spreche sehr wenig Deutsch

[Genji Sama]

Who the hell cares about a Type R? They were quick for what they were 10 years ago. Even with your 10k engine, you'll still be given fits by V6 Accords and Camrys

Also, not anybody can buy a type R as evidenced by yourself and the fact that there aren't that many to buy. LOTS of people buy civics and integras with the goal of being faster than the pinnacle of that platform...the Type R. So you see, you are in the vast majority.

I can't tell who your siding with from this statement. From the first part of the statement it comes off as if your trying to make fun of me. I've never heard of a camry running a 14 in the 1/4 mile, bone stock. But then again i've never looked for one. Makes sense with more torque they'd beat me off the line, but I won't say "be given fits by".

But by the later half of your statement it sounds like your supporting me. My whole point was that I've seen someone else do this and I just wanted to try. I'm not trying to be a trailblazer on my first build, just trying to get into the game properly. So yeah, I do see, I'm in the vast majority. I like it that way :thumbsup:.

And just to finish addressing the whole Type Rs were good ten years ago. My car is about 14 years old, so if I can make it compete with a car that was doing really well for itself 10-14 years ago. I'm doing good, when I can afford to buy and build a car from this/next decade, I will.

[adam p]

I can't tell who your siding with from this statement. From the first part of the statement it comes off as if your trying to make fun of me. I've never heard of a camry running a 14 in the 1/4 mile, bone stock. But then again i've never looked for one. Makes sense with more torque they'd beat me off the line, but I won't say "be given fits by".

But by the later half of your statement it sounds like your supporting me. My whole point was that I've seen someone else do this and I just wanted to try. I'm not trying to be a trailblazer on my first build, just trying to get into the game properly. So yeah, I do see, I'm in the vast majority. I like it that way :thumbsup:.

And just to finish addressing the whole Type Rs were good ten years ago. My car is about 14 years old, so if I can make it compete with a car that was doing really well for itself 10-14 years ago. I'm doing good, when I can afford to buy and build a car from this/next decade, I will.

Let me help. This is sometimes referred to as a "backhanded compliment." It may sound like a compliment, at times, but it really highlights something else that is bad about you. Allow me to explain:

Here, Greyson mentioned you are in "the majority." You assumed that being in the majority justified your behavior, or could even be seen as a good thing. Others reading Greyson's comment would realize that you are like a lot of people with slow Hondas that want to talk about beating a Type R, and yet will never be faster than a stock Camry, much less a sports car. This would be perceived by these readers as bad thing. Hence, this was a "Backhanded Compliment."

Bonus Life Lesson: If it is common, and most people are doing it, then it is probably wrong (For example, most "car enthusiasts" are trashy ricers). Half of the population has an IQ of less than 100 (give or take). Think about it.

P.S. This first piece of advice was free, but you can hire me for $75/hr as your "Life Coach." I require a minimum of 40 hours a week of work. I promise you will see results, and have more friends in less than one month.

Hell, I'm feeling generous. This isn't a charity, but you really need help. Bonus Life Lesson #2: Sometimes people aren't always "supporting you" or "hating on you." In fact, most of the time they aren't thinking about you at all. Yes, even when they are responding to something you have said. Incredible, I know.

[Anderson]

Blah blah blah, <insert stupid shit here>

You are retarded. Your car is ugly. Your goals are stupid. Your reasons for your goals are stupid ugly retarded. Everyone else has already stated why. Dead horse meet stick.

[adam p]

And just to finish addressing the whole Type Rs were good ten years ago. My car is about 14 years old, so if I can make it compete with a car that was doing really well for itself 10-14 years ago. I'm doing good, when I can afford to buy and build a car from this/next decade, I will.

Life Coach Tip #3: If you can afford to waste enough money a POS Integra (with a "OEM" body kit featuring two types of paint, except for that one part that is carbon fiber) make 250whp N/A, then you can certainly afford to have a nicer, better, faster car that was made much more recently and isn't a piece of shit.

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/the_more_you_know2.jpg

[Swine]

Adam, i guess you are bored man...i know you know your advice will be falling apon def ears. If it makes you feel any better i am ever impressed with your internet composure and ability to project your thoughts, feelings, and emotions in such a thought provoking, literal, and boldy accute manner. I love you.:beer:

[Veedubtrek]

I can count to potato.
BULLSHIT!

[Shift6]

I've never heard of a camry running a 14 in the 1/4 mile, bone stock.
I hope you don't run into any V6 Camrys if you don't go turbo. Fear of getting pulled on by one of those was one of the reasons I sold my first car, bought something super cheap, and started saving for something way faster. :rolllaugh

No joke.

[Veedubtrek]

def
accute
deaf
acute

faggot

[Jess]

I ran a brand new Altima 3.5 in the CRV just now. Those things are quick! Now that I did some googling - they're about the same as a '96 Type R.

lol my heavy ass SUV is as fast as Gengi wants his car to be after dropping $10k into it Just buy an Altima dude.

[zmasterB]

I can't tell who your siding with from this statement.

He's not siding with anyone.

He stated facts.........you know, those things you completely disregard :bang:





I ran a brand new Altima 3.5 in the CRV just now. Those things are quick! Now that I did some googling - they're about the same as a '96 Type R.

IIRC Daniel ran a low 14 in that '02 3.5L Maxima he used to have, the newer Altimas have a little more power, & are lighter. The '05-06 5 speed auto Alti's feel faster to me than the new ones with the CVT.......either way thats pretty kickass that the CRV ran with one :)

[AlmosN8kd]

either way thats pretty kickass that the CRV ran with one :)


And, it cost him <<<<<< $10,000 to get there. :cheers:

[A418t81]

I can't tell who your siding with from this statement. From the first part of the statement it comes off as if your trying to make fun of me. I've never heard of a camry running a 14 in the 1/4 mile, bone stock. But then again i've never looked for one. Makes sense with more torque they'd beat me off the line, but I won't say "be given fits by".



I'm not going to respond to the rest of this mess, but I do want to expand on the V6 family cars for a minute. Do you really never read anything but Hondatech? Dude, V6 family sedans are FAST now. They EASILY run mid 14s on average, some even dip into high 13s bone stock. Did you know that the huge, boat-of-a-Carmy Avalon has Toyota's corporate 3.5L V6 that makes 280 hp and traps 98 mph? 98 mph, that's as fast as a rev-up G35...it's faster than a lightly modded Type R...and we are talking about an AVALON. The Camrys have the same engine, but a touch less power and weight, so they trap about 97 or so. The new V6 Accords have nearly 300 hp and easily trap 98-100 mph depending on trim. Stock.

I have no problem with you wanting to make your car fast, but going NA is going to cost a fortune and you are setting your goals on a "has been" target that is easily bested by your typical econo hot hatch these days. Your NA engine will be very unreliable, and a turbo setup that cost 1/3 the price will blow your doors off and still be running for years after you've blow up your motor because you didn't replace your timing belt every 10k miles because you didn't know you needed to change it that often with the huge cams you'll have in the car. If anything drop a K series in it and call it a day. Those with bolt-ons will smoke any silly built NA B series.

[linuxman51]

definitly a k-series swap for the NA goodness.

[AlmosN8kd]

How to learn something:

definitly a k-series swap for the NA goodness.

Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am) but wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a used RSX than to do a K-swap on the Integra?

[adam p]

How to learn something:
Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am) but wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a used RSX than to do a K-swap on the Integra?

I was wondering about this, and I looked it up. An '02 Acura RSX-S is DEFINITELY cheaper than $10k. And it is exactly the same weigh as a '98 Integra GS-R. In review, a K-series Integra is pretty pointless and a waste of money.

In review: Acura RSX-S is $8k. $2k in bolt ons + $1k in ECU and dyno tune, and you have a car that will easily pull a Type R (230whp?). $11k including the car.

[AlmosN8kd]

I was wondering about this, and I looked it up. An '02 Acura RSX-S is DEFINITELY cheaper than $10k. And it is exactly the same weigh as a '98 Integra GS-R. In review, a K-series Integra is pretty pointless and a waste of money.

In review: Acura RSX-S is $8k. $2k in bolt ons + $1k in ECU and dyno tune, and you have a car that will easily pull a Type R (230whp?). $11k including the car.

Thanks man. I really wasn't sure where to start other than eBay which isn't exactly a reliable source when it comes to car prices.

[A418t81]

Oh, and ditch the freakin Auto. I don't care if you have a 1000 hp NA Integra that produces it's own race fuel from old beets...if you have an auto in there, you "automatically" lose.

[zmasterB]

I don't care if you have a 1000 hp NA Integra that produces it's own race fuel from old beets..

A++, will read again :rolllaugh

[Genji Sama]

I think everyone is back to this idea that I'm trying to build the fastest car on the road. No, I'm not. B-series motors are a good base to learn how to work on cars and they're not that expensive either for the basics (plus I already own one). I honestly don't give a damn that your CRV is as fast as I'm trying to make my car. Or that I could buy an RSX and accomplish my 230whp, with one bolt on. I've already stated multiple times that the only reason I said I wanted to beat a type R, is because If I can build a car competing with Honda's pinnacle then I'm atleast in the average for a builder (because apparently everybody has done this). Right now I'm below average, I'm trying to get average, before I shoot for greatness. I'm sorry I couldn't afford a E92 335i or an Audi as my first car, to shoot for a faster time. If you want to donate yours I'll gladly take it.
I'll admit that I didn't know all that crap about the average family car, so now I know not to race one, but right now my goal is not compete with the average car of 2010, but to simply learn to build a motor.

@ Adam, Thanks for life lesson 1&2. 3, I didn't really appreciate so much.

[Genji Sama]

Oh, and ditch the freakin Auto. I don't care if you have a 1000 hp NA Integra that produces it's own race fuel from old beets...if you have an auto in there, you "automatically" lose.

And I was pretty sure I had already covered this. I just got the last part I needed to do the swap. I'll be doing it ASAP, mid-terms are this week though so I couldn't do it last weekend, hopefully this weekend will permit.

[linuxman51]

How to learn something:



Correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am) but wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a used RSX than to do a K-swap on the Integra?


stuff it lambo-boy. a k-swap for the teg would be a lot less than buying an rsx.

[Grider]

I've already stated multiple times that the only reason I said I wanted to beat a type R, is because If I can build a car competing with Honda's pinnacle then I'm atleast in the average for a builder (because apparently everybody has done this).

Honda's pinnacle is the NSX as far as road cars go.

[adam p]

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@ Adam, Thanks for life lesson 1&2. 3, I didn't really appreciate so much.

Duly noted. But seriously, FYI, saying your car is a POS is not referring to how much it costs. I'm thinking of putting 10k into the motor of your car and not doing anything else to it will make it a STILL not fast POS compared to the car you could buy with the same money. I'm the first person to say that a car doesn't have to be expensive to be "nice." Just well done. The point is that $10k into the motor of an otherwise underwhelming LS Integra isn't well done in my mind.

Anyways, I understand why you want to learn to build. F it, just go buy a junkyard GS-R motor, rebuild it, swap it in your car with a manual transmission (buy the GS-R wheels too before you leave!) and call it donezo. Save for the next project? :P Just sayin'.

[Genji Sama]

@Grider. Fuck off...Hold on gotta use a smiley in this

Duly noted. But seriously, FYI, saying your car is a POS is not referring to how much it costs. I'm thinking of putting 10k into the motor of your car and not doing anything else to it will make it a STILL not fast POS compared to the car you could buy with the same money. I'm the first person to say that a car doesn't have to be expensive to be "nice." Just well done. The point is that $10k into the motor of an otherwise underwhelming LS Integra isn't well done in my mind.

Anyways, I understand why you want to learn to build. F it, just go buy a junkyard GS-R motor, rebuild it, swap it in your car with a manual transmission (buy the GS-R wheels too before you leave!) and call it donezo. Save for the next project? :P Just sayin'.

I considered just putting a GS-R in it, but that wouldn't make as much power as the setup I have in mind. Even though b16 pistons are great for making higher compression in a LS-Vtec. Something about the shape of the chamber doesn't allow the same compression to be made in a GS-R motor (didn't really completely understand that, but I just took it at face value). So I wouldn't know where to go as far as building the motor on a GS-R. However I didn get a nice GSR tranny, but I don't want to do GSR wheels, they look funny with a type R wing and they're only made in 15s. I want to go with 16s.

[Grider]

@Grider. Fuck off...Hold on gotta use a smiley in this

I think this is what you are looking for you bullheaded n00b: :redFU:

And that shit is why I don't think Adam is going to unlock you any time soon. Go ahead and register a new account and see how that works out for you.

[Jess]

Something about the shape of the chamber doesn't allow the same compression to be made in a GS-R motor (didn't really completely understand that, but I just took it at face value).

LOL and this is why you will never learn anything. You've got 50 pages of people trying to school you....which you ignore. But you read something on H-T and it's good enough for you to make decisions about what parts to and not to use.

What CR is this thing gonna be and are you going to be running pump gas?

[TheWill]

fuck it, if you are K swapping just boost it and put the bottle on it... HELL YEAH

[AlmosN8kd]

fuck it, if you are K swapping just boost it and put the bottle on it... HELL YEAH

Don't forget to bump up the redline on it too. :D

[FST 05]

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z128/fst05/funny%20pics/dangertomanifold.jpg

[Genji Sama]

LOL and this is why you will never learn anything. You've got 50 pages of people trying to school you....which you ignore. But you read something on H-T and it's good enough for you to make decisions about what parts to and not to use.

What CR is this thing gonna be and are you going to be running pump gas?

What are you talking about? You just assumed I went to H-T to learn that. Since ya'll are so into digging up my other profiles (i.e photobucket), look up my H-T profile. I have no activity on there other than 3 comments on pictures. I don't visit H-T, it too unorganized and a pain to navigate. I picked up a book, but it was over my head. Why are you still on this :bullshit:? I honestly don't care that you think my car is ugly or my plans for it are stupid. If you wanna buy it and burn it, do it. $6k firm, so I can pick up a new project.

[Genji Sama]

I think this is what you are looking for you bullheaded n00b: :redFU:

And that shit is why I don't think Adam is going to unlock you any time soon. Go ahead and register a new account and see how that works out for you.

Oh, sorry bout that one, I honestly meant to delete that, guess it made it's way back when I cut & pasted (that's why there was no smiley). But still I don't know much about computers, but I'm pretty if I made a new account the only way he could know it was me was through my IP address, which I could change so making a new account would fix this. However I would like to be honest with the communityy

[zmasterB]

Even though b16 pistons are great for making higher compression in a LS-Vtec. Something about the shape of the chamber doesn't allow the same compression to be made in a GS-R motor (didn't really completely understand that, but I just took it at face value).

OK. Gonna try this without saying anything you will take as derogatory.....

*This is gonna be in really simple terms*

The recessed area in the cylinder head, where the heads of the valves sit & the spark plug sticks out into, thats called the combustion chamber, this is where the air/fuel mixture is squeezed into & ignited. It could be deeper, or shallower, i.e. it can be different in size on different cylinder heads. This size is measured in CC. This applies to the piston also......the top of the piston will be either flat, dished, or domed.

So..............

Larger CC of head= lower compression with a given piston
Smaller CC of head= higher compression with a given piston
Domed piston= + CC (by virtue of raised piston dome)= higher compression
Dish piston= - CC (by virtue of recess in piston)=lower compression

Its not gonna have anything to do with the "shape" of the chamber, its the size.....& you need to know what the static compression of the combination you're going to use is, it's kinda important.

Or.....

I've got a T3 super 60 with a 3" inlet Turbonetics compressor cover I'll sell ya cheap ;)

[AlmosN8kd]

$6k firm

Paint it 1 color, get rid of the runs in the paint, fix the HID, do the manual swap, quiet the exhaust, clean it up, and maybe put some better wheels on it and then it may be a tempting offer. Not knocking it, just saying it isn't worth $6k to me as is.

[Jess]

What are you talking about? You just assumed I went to H-T to learn that. Since ya'll are so into digging up my other profiles (i.e photobucket), look up my H-T profile. I have no activity on there other than 3 comments on pictures. I don't visit H-T, it too unorganized and a pain to navigate. I picked up a book, but it was over my head. Why are you still on this :bullshit:? I honestly don't care that you think my car is ugly or my plans for it are stupid. If you wanna buy it and burn it, do it. $6k firm, so I can pick up a new project.


You know what? I'm done arguing. I'm now intrigued by your build. So what CR will these pistons bump your B18b upto?

Well just in general lay out exactly what your plans are.

i.e. phase 1 is the B16 pistons, what hp do you expect to be at, then I guess phase 2 would be some head work (PnP, cams, springs, retainers)?

At what point do you think you'll need to start addressing your tune, fuel delivery, knock sensing, etc?

You've got huge plans, obviously you would have thought at least some of this out by now.

[VR4Rob]

But still I don't know much about computers, but I'm pretty if I made a new account the only way he could know it was me was through my IP address, which I could change so making a new account would fix this. However I would like to be honest with the communityy

Please tell me how you plan to change your IP address when you make a new username. Or better yet, please tell me what you think an IP address is.

[Jess]

Or better yet, please tell me what you think an IP address is.

Zoom in...now enhance!

[Grider]

Please tell me how you plan to change your IP address when you make a new username. Or better yet, please tell me what you think an IP address is.

You know if we had his Lat/Lon coordinates we could call in an air strike. You can get that from an IP address right? :tard:

That is why there are all those digits in an IPv6 address....

/sarcasm

[AlmosN8kd]

Please tell me how you plan to change your IP address when you make a new username. Or better yet, please tell me what you think an IP address is.


Easy man, just log in from his Hondata ECU. It doez all. :D

[Genji Sama]

@ZmasterB...Thanks, that makes sense, that sounds like what I read as well, simplified. No thanks on the compressor, still doin all motor.

Paint it 1 color, get rid of the runs in the paint, fix the HID, do the manual swap, quiet the exhaust, clean it up, and maybe put some better wheels on it and then it may be a tempting offer. Not knocking it, just saying it isn't worth $6k to me as is.

I said $6k because I knew he wouldn't do it, but I plan on doing everything mentioned (except the one color paint) so...:cool:

You know what? I'm done arguing. I'm now intrigued by your build. So what CR will these pistons bump your B18b upto?

Well just in general lay out exactly what your plans are.

i.e. phase 1 is the B16 pistons, what hp do you expect to be at, then I guess phase 2 would be some head work (PnP, cams, springs, retainers)?

At what point do you think you'll need to start addressing your tune, fuel delivery, knock sensing, etc?

You've got huge plans, obviously you would have thought at least some of this out by now.

By the boldface statement and the fact that the first question you asked is the same one you asked when you were on that "Flame Genji" trip. I'm assuming you still have no interest in my build. I'm also gonna assume that you know I can't answer the majority of these questions, as evidenced by the fact that i've repetitiously stated I'm new and this is my first build.
However in the case that may not be true, I'll answer what I can. I'll address the tuning issue as soon as the GS-R Head and b16 pistons are installed b/c this is the only real change coming to the motor for a while and I still need to drive it. (before I get flamed for this)
I bought the s13 chassis and I now own the SR, so I will be also working on building a turbo car, but it'll be a while before it's running or for that, able to drive it (insuring two cars is a b*tch). So I'm trying to manage sinking money into two projects on my meager paycheck.

Please tell me how you plan to change your IP address when you make a new username. Or better yet, please tell me what you think an IP address is.

....damn. I was gonna waste my time and Wiki what an IP address is. But you know, I don't really care like that. To be honest, I have a lot of software engineering friends and computer tech friends and I was gonna go to them to get it done, but apparently your getting at something so do please finish. (apparently when I say "I don't know much about _______" that means, "I'm fuckin' legit") So please don't let me interupt you, explain what an IP address is, how Adam could find out it was me if I made a new profile, and how I can call an air strike on a person with their IP.

[Pegasus_Red]

dude...
you just dont know when to stop
now would be a great time.
seriously

[VR4Rob]

(apparently when I say "I don't know much about _______" that means, "I'm fuckin' legit")
Yes, in all seriousness this is exactly what you sound like. You say you don't know much about it but then you continue to blabber on about how much you think you DO know about it.

To the rest of your post: http://www.theseriousbusiness.org/forums/images/smilies/PicardFacepalm2.gif http://www.theseriousbusiness.org/forums/images/smilies/PicardFacepalm.gif

[AlmosN8kd]

(insuring two cars is a b*tch). So I'm trying to manage sinking money into two projects on my meager paycheck.

Again, not trying to pour salt on the wound, but when I asked this question awhile back, you said you had it all figured out. Why the sudden surprise (my interpretation of your statment)?

[Genji Sama]

@Pegasus Red... I would, but I'm locked in the thread and have no idea if Adam has any intention on changing that, so there's no means of quitting other than to just not visit the site. Since the only damage in having this discussion on the forum is to damage my name on the forum it doesn't make sense to discontinue post. I only have ground to gain, I'm already stuck in here, the only thing left is to be banned (and from what, what is essentially a VIP forum, to me, when I have no interest in VIP cars)

Yes, in all seriousness this is exactly what you sound like. You say you don't know much about it but then you continue to blabber on about how much you think you DO know about it.


After stating that I didn't know much about computers, I continued to say that I though the only way he could trace me was through my IP address. The "I thought" part is emphasized clear enough. Instad of CAPS LOCKING "do" you should correct your phrasing, here I'll fix it for you.

Yes, in all seriousness this is exactly what you sound like. You say you don't know much about it but then you continue to articulate on what you believe to be true

Simply stating, what I believe to be true is not the same at boasting my knowledge on subject. It's quite the opposite, If I stated I don't know much about computers and never made any reference to how I believed I could change my IP address, the statement would've been incomplete. And you would've read it and been like "WTF, was up with that random statement"


Again, not trying to pour salt on the wound, but when I asked this question awhile back, you said you had it all figured out. Why the sudden surprise (my interpretation of your statment)?

I don't have it all figured out, but I do know how I'm going to go about completing these two builds (in a general outline). I was simply stating that it's tough to insure two cars and continue to work on them with my paycheck. I'm sure I can do it, it's just difficult.

[VDUBNDizzy]

dude...
you just dont know when to stop
now would be a great time.
seriously

This ^^^. Somewhere, a village is missing its idiot. At this point, Genji won't listen to any of us, regardless of experience. I say we all shut up, let him fail, and then enjoy the silence that is left when he's too embarrassed to admit his "plan" was retarded in the first place.

[zmasterB]

No thanks on the compressor, still doin all motor.

A compressor goes on your air conditioner. We mostly refer to those items as "turbochargers"......turbo's have a compressor, but by itself it wouldnt do you much good.


I bought the s13 chassis and I now own the SR, so I will be also working on building a turbo car, but it'll be a while before it's running or for that, able to drive it (insuring two cars is a b*tch).

Oh God :P

I wanna hear about this S13 project next..........

IMO that will be a good larnin' 'sperience for you, learn how something simple like that goes together instead of engine internals & the dynamics thereof.

Whats really kinda funny to me is that a stock SR with basic bolt-on mods & a boost controller will easily beat this proposed all-motor Integra.

[Pegasus_Red]

http://a5.vox.com/6a00b8ea067a51dece01101629be7d860c-500pi

[Genji Sama]

Oh God :P

I wanna hear about this S13 project next..........

IMO that will be a good larnin' 'sperience for you, learn how something simple like that goes together instead of engine internals & the dynamics thereof.

Whats really kinda funny to me is that a stock SR with basic bolt-on mods & a boost controller will easily beat this proposed all-motor Integra.

Yeah, I know it'll be quicker. It's not really an in depth project though. It was gonna stop at the SR going in then simply cosmetic stuff. The shell needs paint, coilovers, and wheels. After that I was thinking maybe a Greddy BOV and I was gonna listen and enjoy, but this seems to simple and I'm sure there is a lot more that will need to be done to get the SR in the shell properly so for now...(silence)...

[Genji Sama]

This ^^^. Somewhere, a village is missing its idiot. At this point, Genji won't listen to any of us, regardless of experience. I say we all shut up, let him fail, and then enjoy the silence that is left when he's too embarrassed to admit his "plan" was retarded in the first place.

Agreed, I can't wait to see him make his car faster, because no one has ever done that before. Oh gahd what a retarded plan....What?? He's not listening to any of us, despite his "thanks" given to Jess, Adam P, ZmasterB and a few others who said something somewhat useful, and by useful I mean, a comment other than "Your not going to boost it, that's stupid". I'm not trying to achieve a 10sec all motor integra. I'm trying to achieve a 14sec integra....
as so many others have stated ,
Reading Comprehension > YOU.

[insert_car]

holy shit you continue to sound even more retarded with every post. lol this is some wild shit. how old are you mang?

[Genji Sama]

holy shit you continue to sound even more retarded with every post. lol this is some wild shit. how old are you man?

My statements plans are so generalized and open ended, that your statement doesn't even make sense. Based on your last comment I could only assume you to be in your early-mid 20s (24 is my guess), and you only reached 20s b/c I saw that the past three cars you've owned have been pretty high dollar. If I only took into consideration your last post, I would have to guess about 19, due to the fact that you haven't noticed that I generally ignore unsupported claims (and in some cases even supported ones), you spelled "man" with a "g" a simple error that could've been corrected with a proof reading, something that has been stressed heavily throughout the thread, and that you really thought I was just gonna tell you how old I was. I'm not hiding it, but I don't just give out my name/DOB/SS# to everyone on the web, that's why I have a SN. So based purely on your lack of ability to pick up on conversational clues,innability provide textual support for you post and generalized demeanor....I'll say your 20:P. But it's only a guess and honestly :whogives:

[Genji Sama]

^^^ Damn, your almost 30. Wow, the wisdom:age ratio is really on a negative trend, but I guess it follows suite with the maturity:age ration as well.

[zmasterB]

After that I was thinking maybe a Greddy BOV and I was gonna listen and enjoy

Dont ever say that again

[insert_car]

you spelled "man" with a "g" a simple error that could've been corrected with a proof reading, something that has been stressed heavily throughout the thread


HAHAHAHAA omg dude is this your first time on the internet???? you have never saw the use of "g" on "man" before? wow you are a nOOb. let me help you out on ONCE AGAIN another topic you are clueless about but speak on it like you wrote the book on the subject. "mang" is a slang term used to emphasis the sound of "man". for example, like tony from scarface would say "mang".

jesus you are green. you have to be young.

[VR4Dani]

holy shit you continue to sound even more retarded with every post. lol this is some wild shit. how old are you manG?

No. he meant mang. Likesrsly? You've never heard this slanG?


edit: Lawl, everyone posting at same time.

[insert_car]

innability provide textual support for you post and generalized demeanor....I'll say your 20:P. But it's only a guess and honestly :whogives:

if you want to correct someones post you might want to make sure you can correct your on. its "your" not "you"

[insert_car]

No. he meant mang. Likesrsly? You've never heard this slanG?


edit: Lawl, everyone posting at same time.

lol i think this is his first time on dA iNtrAWEbZZ


genji, by that i meant i believe that this is the frist time you have logged on to the world wide web.

[AlmosN8kd]

the wisdom:age ratio is really on a negative trend

I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Is it hard for you to believe that those in this forum may know more than you (or your Uncle who builds Hondas)? And, most of them happen to be older (than you at least, no idea on your Uncle)? That is not to say that everyone is right 100% of the time (except me :D ) but in general, on aSpeed, those who discuss things discuss facts and not pipe dreams. Again, I am really not trying to attack you personally, just trying to have a conversation (I'm off of my high horse, no desire to get into another efight). As I said in a post in the other thread (before I went off the deep end), there is the strangest collection of overall knowledge on aSpeed that is by far the most difficult thing to explain but when you need unabridged, unadulterated, unbullshitted credible knowledge, this is the place to get it. And, age isn't even considered a factor in said knowledge if it is true fact (generally, determined by a consensus of those who also possess said knowledge); it just happens to be that those who are in the "know" are generally older than 90% of the noobs. So, your statement, regardless if it was meant as a joke or an insult, is just complete and utter garbage.

[Genji Sama]

I wholeheartedly disagree with this. Is it hard for you to believe that those in this forum may know more than you (or your Uncle who builds Hondas)? And, most of them happen to be older (than you at least, no idea on your Uncle)? That is not to say that everyone is right 100% of the time (except me :D ) but in general, on aSpeed, those who discuss things discuss facts and not pipe dreams. Again, I am really not trying to attack you personally, just trying to have a conversation (I'm off of my high horse, no desire to get into another efight). As I said in a post in the other thread (before I went off the deep end), there is the strangest collection of overall knowledge on aSpeed that is by far the most difficult thing to explain but when you need unabridged, unadulterated, unbullshitted credible knowledge, this is the place to get it. And, age isn't even considered a factor in said knowledge if it is true fact (generally, determined by a consensus of those who also possess said knowledge); it just happens to be that those who are in the "know" are generally older than 90% of the noobs. So, your statement, regardless if it was meant as a joke or an insult, is just complete and utter garbage.

Noted.

@Insert Car...Your almost 30, to take a page out of your book. U 2 ole fo' dat slanG shiz. So speak like a respectable human being. When I read a response I don't want to have to decipher its meaning. And I notice my own typos, but I can't edit them due to my "VIP" status (notice the avatar, not my own doing)

[Anderson]

Noted.

@Insert Car...Your almost 30, to take a page out of your book. U 2 ole fo' dat slanG shiz. So speak like a respectable human being. When I read a response I don't want to have to decipher its meaning. And I notice my own typos, but I can't edit them due to my "VIP" status (notice the avatar, not my own doing)

Here is a thought. Proofread before you hit submit! Fucking idiot.

[jcatzcustoms]

dude's car look fine. all motor integra, sure. 300 hp daily driver_no. 2 run motor_no. I've seen people make reliable enough 300 hp 1.8 16v vw motor w/o boost, but they all new what the fuck they were doing. I haven't found but two halfway decent machine shops in alabama. Why the hell not, I think it a fine idea. truth be, told i wouldn't drop a dime in the integra. I'd run with the sr in the s13, but again to each his own.

[insert_car]

Noted.

@Insert Car...Your almost 30, to take a page out of your book. U 2 ole fo' dat slanG shiz. So speak like a respectable human being. When I read a response I don't want to have to decipher its meaning. And I notice my own typos, but I can't edit them due to my "VIP" status (notice the avatar, not my own doing)

LOL your so fucking dumb. it doesn't save your letters after each key stroke. you proof before you post.

basically you were wrong AGAIN and can't admit it. you tried to correct my post which was already correct and in the process you fucked up yours LOL, priceless. The slang on the internet is part of the internet and is funny to use in situations. i can't believe i have to describe how the internet works to you lol. decipher its meaning? you are a simple, simple little boy aren't you lol.

[AlmosN8kd]

dude's car look fine.

:bullshit:

Your opinion has just hit rock bottom. I mean lower than a normal person from Enterprise, AL. We're talking lower than the clean up guy after the donkey show in Tijuana bottom...check it.

[Genji Sama]

LOL your so fucking dumb. it doesn't save your letters after each key stroke. you proof before you post.

basically you were wrong AGAIN and can't admit it. you tried to correct my post which was already correct and in the process you fucked up yours LOL, priceless. The slang on the internet is part of the internet and is funny to use in situations. i can't believe i have to describe how the internet works to you lol. decipher its meaning? you are a simple, simple little boy aren't you lol.

Thank you for informing me my comp didn't save my letters after each key stroke, I hadn't noticed that while typing

And I was wrong that you mispelled "man". No, i was not. Failing to notice a 30 year old man using slang, yes i was (but that's a fail, in of itself) So display how simple you are by following suite on the current trend of this forum and flame any mistake I may make, while your at it throw a few more of those unsupported claims in there. I enjoy reading those, mang:P .

[Genji Sama]

:bullshit:

Your opinion has just hit rock bottom. I mean lower than a normal person from Enterprise, AL. We're talking lower than the clean up guy after the donkey show at Tijuana bottom.

Oh man, thought we had cleared this bridge. So let me get this straigt your flaming a person who compliments my car, just because you don't like the way it looks. While once again your car is sporting LAMBO doors, and COBRA wheels. On your USDM stealth. Calm down please, your choice in aesthetic modifications to your car have already displayed how much your opinion matters. He was even curtious enough to end his post saying "to each his own", damn ya'll just eager to flame someone, for anything.

[Genji Sama]

:bullshit:

Your opinion has just hit rock bottom. I mean lower than a normal person from Enterprise, AL. We're talking lower than the clean up guy after the donkey show at Tijuana bottom.

Oh man, thought we had cleared this bridge. So let me get this straigt your flaming a person who compliments my car, just because you don't like the way it looks. While once again your car is sporting LAMBO doors, and COBRA wheels. On your USDM stealth. Calm down please, your choice in aesthetic modifications to your car have already displayed how much your opinion matters. He was even curtious enough to end his post saying "to each his own", damn ya'll just eager to flame someone, for anything.

[Genji Sama]

^^^How'd that end up posting twice???:confused:

[AlmosN8kd]

So let me get this straigt your flaming a person who compliments my car, just because you don't like the way it looks. While once again your car is sporting LAMBO doors, and COBRA wheels. On your USDM stealth.

Those look like statements to me yet read like questions. :confused:

Anyhow, if they are questions, yes, that JUST happened. :D

Calm down please

Actually, I wasn't upset. More or less making a joke for the hell of it (although, I did forget to add "check it" to that statement, oops; edited).

your choice in aesthetic modifications to your car have already displayed how much your opinion matters.

I can live with that.

He was even curtious enough to end his post saying "to each his own", damn ya'll just eager to flame someone, for anything.

:whogives: Read the rules:
http://www.forums.aspeedracing.com/showthread.php?t=12238
:thumbsup:

[VR4Rob]

My statements plans are so generalized and open ended, that your statement doesn't even make sense. Based on your last comment I could only assume you to be in your early-mid 20s (24 is my guess), and you only reached 20s b/c I saw that the past three cars you've owned have been pretty high dollar. If I only took into consideration your last post, I would have to guess about 19, due to the fact that you haven't noticed that I generally ignore unsupported claims (and in some cases even supported ones), you spelled "man" with a "g" a simple error that could've been corrected with a proof reading, something that has been stressed heavily throughout the thread, and that you really thought I was just gonna tell you how old I was. I'm not hiding it, but I don't just give out my name/DOB/SS# to everyone on the web, that's why I have a SN. So based purely on your lack of ability to pick up on conversational clues,innability provide textual support for you post and generalized demeanor....I'll say your 20:P. But it's only a guess and honestly :whogives:

http://www.myspacefx.net/import/graphics/Funny_Graphics_and_Pics/lol-cats_its_BEAUTIFUL.jpg

[adam p]

@Insert Car...Your almost 30

You're


MY GOD DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DO THIS ONE MORE TIME I SWEAR I AM GOING TO SNAP.

This isn't a typo. This is the ENGLISH LANGUAGE. "Your" and "You're" are completely different words. You didn't hit the wrong key. I've been noticing this all weekend, but when you start correcting people's spelling I loose it. (JOKE. It's "LOSE" it.)

(Sorry, English major. I'm finished yelling. And no, it's not just you, Genji. But it's driving me nuts, I'm about to scratch off my own skin.)

[AlmosN8kd]

Dude, I've tried that battle. As with everything else, it fell upon deaf ears (well, blind eyes being that this is the interweb). You're and Your as well as There, Their, and They're irritate me quite a bit as well and I'm not even an English major. He's just going to act insolent like every other 18yo freshman that knows more than the rest of the world when you try to help them. Damn shame IMO.

[Genji Sama]

@Almostn8kd...I'm pretty sure the link you referred me to as to reading the rules was something about profanity, i guess, can't be sure, but I can't leave the VIP section.

But let me just leave this in here so you remember your a ricer as well ;)
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/3243/Lambo-Doors-So-Played-Out.jpg

[insert_car]

You're


MY GOD DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DO THIS ONE MORE TIME I SWEAR I AM GOING TO SNAP.

This isn't a typo. This is the ENGLISH LANGUAGE. "Your" and "You're" are completely different words. You didn't hit the wrong key. I've been noticing this all weekend, but when you start correcting people's spelling I loose it. (JOKE. It's "LOSE" it.)

(Sorry, English major. I'm finished yelling.)

the sad part is he doesn't know he is doing it because he doesn't understand elementary level english. he doesn't know when to use your or you're. true story. lol thats funny shit

[Genji Sama]

You're


MY GOD DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DO THIS ONE MORE TIME I SWEAR I AM GOING TO SNAP.

This isn't a typo. This is the ENGLISH LANGUAGE. "Your" and "You're" are completely different words. You didn't hit the wrong key. I've been noticing this all weekend, but when you start correcting people's spelling I loose it. (JOKE. It's "LOSE" it.)

(Sorry, English major. I'm finished yelling.)

Calm down, mang. Dats slang.

[zmasterB]

dude's car look fine. all motor integra, sure. 300 hp daily driver_no. 2 run motor_no. I've seen people make reliable enough 300 hp 1.8 16v vw motor w/o boost, but they all new what the fuck they were doing. I haven't found but two halfway decent machine shops in alabama. Why the hell not, I think it a fine idea. truth be, told i wouldn't drop a dime in the integra. I'd run with the sr in the s13, but again to each his own.
HOLY


SHIT


http://smiliesftw.com/x/pat.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

[VR4Rob]

Genji if you're going to be a http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/1639/thumb/Grammar-Nazi-1613.png?1265674009 then you should read this.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/header.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/lose.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/their.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/weird.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/their.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/your.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/its.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/definitely.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/effect.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/weather.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/alot.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/then.png

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/misspelling/end.png

[AlmosN8kd]

@Almostn8kd...I'm pretty sure the link you referred me to as to reading the rules was something about profanity, i guess, can't be sure, but I can't leave the VIP section.

No, didn't know you couldn't "leave" the VIP section; I knew you couldn't post but not that you couldn't view; my bad. I'll share:

1st Rule: You do not take any post as serious on aSpeed.

2nd Rule: You DO NOT take any post as serious on aSpeed.

3rd Rule: aSpeed is strongly opinionated, honest, and not shy about it. Most of the time you will be treated exactly the way you act.

4th Rule: Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how wrong yours may be.

5th Rule: The collective group here knows more than you do on your own. This is ultimately for your benefit if you let it be.

6th Rule: aSpeed likes anything that goes fast and/or looks good. It's not any more complicated than that.

7th Rule: n00b/idiot bashing will go on as long as it has to. This is also for said n00b's benefit if they let it be.

8th Rule: If this is your first post on aSpeed, you have to make an intro thread. This will tell everyone 90% of what they need to know.


But let me just leave this in here so you remember your a ricer as well ;) http://www.allfordmustangs.com/photopost/data/3243/Lambo-Doors-So-Played-Out.jpg

As we've discussed to the bitter end, I know. I can live with it and really don't care. Once again, you're not saying anything new. Pot = Kettle

[insert_car]

LULZ @ rob that is awesome!

Genji, by LULZ i mean LOL or Laugh Out Loud.

[adam p]

If he logs out he can still view the General Discussion . . . :rolleyes:

[jsta240]

LULZ @ rob that is awesome!

Genji, by LULZ i mean LOL or Laugh Out Loud.


did you really laugh out loud? or are you just saying that?

if you also want to say lol means lots of laughs then thats acceptable.

[VR4Dani]

Genji, by LULZ i mean LOL or Laugh Out Loud.


:thumbsup:

If he logs out he can still view the General Discussion . . . :rolleyes:

OMGWTFBBQ!?!

[insert_car]

did you really laugh out loud? or are you just saying that?

if you also want to say lol means lots of laughs then thats acceptable.

i truly did. that should be posted everywhere. lol can always be lots of love i should have added that. maybe i meant lots of love to rob? :D

adam. as long as he can't post his piles of bullshit in the general its ok.

to celebrate genji's great mind i have started a book for him to fill with all of his great quotes.
http://img443.yfrog.com/img443/6184/genji.jpg

[AlmosN8kd]

LULz. :D

First entry should be:
Yeah, I'm new on the scene, so I don't have all the experience and I haven't researched turbo setups much b/c I can't afford them. But i'm not quite sure how that translates to me knowing nothing of automobiles. To the extent of my knowledge when you put ITBs on you could no longer filter the air being took into the engine, which would cause your turbo to build up with gunk and perform poorly. And I'm choosing to do ITBs because a four cylinder engine couldn't spool a turbo quick enough for my liking, if I just build the motor and do ITBs I could achieve low to mid 300hp and have it without turbo lag

[VR4Rob]

http://img443.yfrog.com/img443/6184/genji.jpg

Reviews:

"Your not going to beleive what your reading"

"I got this as a gift and thought I was going to loose my mind"

"Definately a grate book for those rainey whether days"

[insert_car]

Reviews:


"Definately a grate book for those rainey whether days"

HAHA perfect. so many in one sentence my head is going to blow

[TheWill]

This thread bringz me many lolz.

[insert_car]

This thread bringz me many lolz.

i hope you're not about to turn 30...if so you aren't aloud to use slang. GTFO!!!!

[Jess]

while your at it


See, in that instance you would want to use "you're"

[Jess]

I've seen people make reliable enough 300 hp 1.8 16v vw motor w/o boost, but they all new what the fuck they were doing.

links?

[TheWill]

I've seen people make reliable enough 300 hp 1.8 16v vw motor w/o boost, but they all new what the fuck they were doing.

LOL
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/154/original/lolwhuttranslated384267dn3.jpg

[zmasterB]

links?

he aint gota have no links........thatz them wiregrass peeps that he no's, cuz hes seen it, he no's that they no what the fuck their doing.







:foxnews: :tard:

[Pegasus_Red]

http://i.imgur.com/hDJmF.gif

[dixond]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273605

LoL! Not the same dude though.

props for the build.. you'll definatly feel some pick wit the pr3 pistons...i was goin to do this build myself..still workin on mines tho....everyone these days just want to build a ls-v and call it a day or just slap a turbo on there motor...and think there hot shit...no one wants to do research , find specs and really build much now a days...some do..but some dont..good luck wit that bro..i'd like to see updates

Apparently you get mad respect for devoting excessive time and money to build slow N/A cars.
I can respect the time and effort it takes to do this right, but I just think that the people who are new to this shouldn't try to jump into this aspect of the hobby.

[Genji Sama]

i truly did. that should be posted everywhere. lol can always be lots of love i should have added that. maybe i meant lots of love to rob? :D

adam. as long as he can't post his piles of bullshit in the general its ok.

to celebrate genji's great mind i have started a book for him to fill with all of his great quotes.
http://img443.yfrog.com/img443/6184/genji.jpg

If you started the book shouldn't the cover read "by Insert Car". Apparently you've already been reading up.

I've seen people make reliable enough 300 hp 1.8 16v vw motor w/o boost, but they all new what the fuck they were doing.links?

jcatzcustoms...You might want to turn on your flame shield. When one of them notices something all their :flame: instantly turn to that target.

[Jess]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273605

LoL! Not the same dude though.



Apparently you get mad respect for devoting excessive time and money to build slow N/A cars.
I can respect the time and effort it takes to do this right, but I just think that the people who are new to this shouldn't try to jump into this aspect of the hobby.

and also,
im figuring around 150-165 hp (trying to keep realistic numbers in mind)

[insert_car]

If you started the book shouldn't the cover read "by Insert Car". Apparently you've already been reading up.


i'm your publisher dumbass...you're the author.

[Genji Sama]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273605

LoL! Not the same dude though.



Apparently you get mad respect for devoting excessive time and money to build slow N/A cars.
I can respect the time and effort it takes to do this right, but I just think that the people who are new to this shouldn't try to jump into this aspect of the hobby.

What?!? okay, so apparently the consensus on this forum is if you don't go boost then your car wasn't worth building. Because Turbo metro built a slow car but, his was boost so it was okay. If it wasn't I never saw his flame thread

[Jess]

jcatzcustoms...You might want to turn on your flame shield. When one of them notices something all their :flame: instantly turn to that target.

You're right. My bad. jcunts - I totally believe you about the 300hp 1.8 VW's. Thank you for letting me know about them. I feel smarter now.

[Jess]

What?!? okay, so apparently the consensus on this forum is if you don't go boost then your car wasn't worth building. Because Turbo metro built a slow car but, his was boost so it was okay. If it wasn't I never saw his flame thread

The metro is slow as fuck but it's faster and cheaper than it would have been naturally aspirated.

Also - I give him shit about it all the time.

[dixond]

The metro is slow as fuck but it's faster and cheaper than it would have been naturally aspirated.

Also - I give him shit about it all the time.

Word. I gave him my old turbo when I went w/ my N/A build.

[Genji Sama]

i'm your publisher dumbass...you're the author.

LOL, wtf I think I would remember writing a book, but that's okay I'll let your joke continue.

[Genji Sama]

The metro is slow as fuck but it's faster and cheaper than it would have been naturally aspirated.

Also - I give him shit about it all the time.

He admitted to dumping a lot of time and money in that build. In his words
I'll freely admit that ive wasted waaaaaay too much money on the geo.
So who asked him "why don't you sell your metro, save that money and buy something already faster" and where's his 70 page thread. In fact norotor admitted to helping him out with that build though the general consensus on that was it was stupid as well.

[dixond]

He admitted to dumping a lot of time and money in that build. In his words

So who asked him "why don't you sell your metro, save that money and buy something already faster" and where's his 70 page thread. In fact norotor admitted to helping him out with that build though the general consensus on that was it was stupid as well.

NA 13b FTW!!

Oh, and you must have overlooked this thread: http://forums.aspeedracing.com/showthread.php?t=10663

[Grider]

When one of them notices something all their :flame: instantly turn to that target.

Our vision is based on stupidity. Don't be stupid and we don't flame, it is really pretty simple.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/jp_301.jpg

[Jess]

He admitted to dumping a lot of time and money in that build. In his words

So who asked him "why don't you sell your metro, save that money and buy something already faster" and where's his 70 page thread. In fact norotor admitted to helping him out with that build though the general consensus on that was it was stupid as well.

so...what you're saying is...what Metro did was dumb and what you're doing is dumb but even though you know what you're doing is dumb you're doing it anyway?

Are you sad because we treat him better than you? Honestly the reason no one here is nice to you is because

a) your car is less aesthetically pleasing (to us) than watching "2 girls and a cup"

b) we've spent way too much time trying to save you $10k and you refuse to take any of our advice.

c) I don't know how old you are but it's obvious you are younger than at least 95% of the people here and it shows.

you are brian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hW2sLFom8

[adam p]

I just think that the people who are new to this shouldn't try to jump into this aspect of the hobby.

Or people who can't fathom the difference between "there," "they're," and "their."

[Genji Sama]

so...what you're saying is...what Metro did was dumb and what you're doing is dumb but even though you know what you're doing is dumb you're doing it anyway?

Are you sad because we treat him better than you? Honestly the reason no one here is nice to you is because

a) your car is less aesthetically pleasing (to us) than watching "2 girls and a cup"

b) we've spent way too much time trying to save you $10k and you refuse to take any of our advice.

c) I don't know how old you are but it's obvious you are younger than at least 95% of the people here and it shows.

you are brian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hW2sLFom8

addressing A) Cool, I'll accept that, but I'm not gonna change it, because you don't like it. I don't like the look of miata, but never asked you to sell yours.
B)If it really cost me 10k to build a 200-210whp integra, then all of it won't be going into the motor, but I don't expect nor want this build to cost 10k. I said 10k, because an average unabused ITR cost a lil less than that, so if I can build a car competing with an ITR for less. I'm doing good.
C) NO, it doesn't show, plain and simple. What shows is that individually and even collectively most of you know more about cars than me. As for your maturity almost all of you jumped on the trend of bashing me for telling my plans, rather than displaying your maturity/age by simply correcting me. Or letting it be. I didn't create 3 threads and 75+ pages by myself.

@the video. Key differences b/w me and brian. I didn't just show up on the site. I was invited, by someone at the meets. I haven't been following ya'll, usually where I post ya'll follow (I.E. This thread, "VIP" thread, and my "Du Werke" thread. I posted either 1st or 2nd in all of those and ya'll followed me)

[Genji Sama]

NA 13b FTW!!

Oh, and you must have overlooked this thread: http://forums.aspeedracing.com/showthread.php?t=10663

1st I thought the 13b was a rotory motor (I may be wrong, made that assumption of the thought the 20b was rotory as well)

2nd why did you refer me to that thread. There was a half a page of insults then one person said "this is a car forum" and instantly everybody was rooting for him for the next 3 pages. I stopped reading after that. Maybe I should've started my build first???

Our vision is based on stupidity. Don't be stupid and we don't flame, it is really pretty simple.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/jp_301.jpg

He stated an opinion, followed by a fact. That none of you can disprove. He said he saw something, unless one of you has escorted him around his entire life how do you plan on disproving that. Also yeah, that comment was 3 pages back until Jess pointed it out then everybody decided to quote it. Very few of you think independently, or else you would've quoted it upon post.
To add the j-park picture was pointless, a picture of a dinosaur looking at a flare. You just like seeing your name appear on the wall don't you?

[VR4Dani]

To add the j-park picture was pointless, a picture of a dinosaur looking at a flare. You just like seeing your name appear on the wall don't you?

Movie knowledge fail. Grider said our vision is based on stupidity. The scene pictured from Jurassic Park, is famously quoted as "Don't move. Its vision is based on movement."

You need mad intarwebz schooling yo.:omg:

[Grider]

Also yeah, that comment was 3 pages back until Jess pointed it out then everybody decided to quote it. Very few of you think independently, or else you would've quoted it upon post.
To add the j-park picture was pointless, a picture of a dinosaur looking at a flare. You just like seeing your name appear on the wall don't you?

Actually, I browse the forums at 40 post per page; it is all on the same page. And you made your post that I quoted at 4:13pm which was 27 minutes before I made my post.

If you were born before 1990 you might actually know that the picture is perfect relevant since the statement I used was a paraphrase of the line in the movie "Their vision is based on movement..." which refers to the same dinosaur in the picture being attracted to the flare instead of the two kids he was previously trying to devour that were in the Explorer.

Simple slang and pop culture references are lost on you. Were you home schooled or perhaps raised by people who forbade you from watching movies and television?

Goddamn you are a dumb as a bag of hammers. If you were half as smart as you thought you were, you would have found the cures for cancer and AIDS by now.

[VR4Rob]

Just would like to point out one huge difference between Genji and TurboGeoMetro. Kyle signed up on the board and his very first post was about the turbo build he had already done. Genji has posted about... well you already know what he's posted about.

[Genji Sama]

Actually, I browse the forums at 40 post per page; it is all on the same page. And you made your post that I quoted at 4:13pm which was 27 minutes before I made my post.

If you were born before 1990 you might actually know that the picture is perfect relevant since the statement I used was a paraphrase of the line in the movie "Their vision is based on movement..." which refers to the same dinosaur in the picture being attracted to the flare instead of the two kids he was previously trying to devour that were in the Explorer.
.

You act like how many pages passed between the comment and everyone's reference really matters. It's the fact that several pages worth comments had already passed before everyone decided to say something.
Sorry I missed the J-Park reference it's been quite some time since I've seen that movie, I don't remember it line for line. I admit it's relevance now, impressive.

[zmasterB]

Oh, and you must have overlooked this thread: http://forums.aspeedracing.com/showthread.php?t=10663

Methinks he's overlooked a lot on here.


He stated an opinion, followed by a fact. That none of you can disprove. He said he saw something, unless one of you has escorted him around his entire life how do you plan on disproving that. Also yeah, that comment was 3 pages back until Jess pointed it out then everybody decided to quote it. Very few of you think independently, or else you would've quoted it upon post.
To add the j-park picture was pointless, a picture of a dinosaur looking at a flare. You just like seeing your name appear on the wall
As for the 3 pages back thing, sorry I had to do work, at work, & couldnt jump on the flaming bandwagon at the proper time.

The "stupidity" part Grider speaks of doesnt necessarily come from what he said, but how he said it.......

I personally get f'n sick of seeing shit like this, not just on here, but all over the internetz, I'll use 2 examples from this thread:

dude's car look fine. all motor integra, sure. 300 hp daily driver_no. 2 run motor_no. I've seen people make reliable enough 300 hp 1.8 16v vw motor w/o boost, but they all new what the fuck they were doing. I haven't found but two halfway decent machine shops in alabama. Why the hell not, I think it a fine idea. truth be, told i wouldn't drop a dime in the integra. I'd run with the sr in the s13, but again to each his own.

props for the build.. you'll definatly feel some pick wit the pr3 pistons...i was goin to do this build myself..still workin on mines tho....everyone these days just want to build a ls-v and call it a day or just slap a turbo on there motor...and think there hot shit...no one wants to do research , find specs and really build much now a days...some do..but some dont..good luck wit that bro..i'd like to see updates

When I read this, personally, I interpret that as the way one talks. When one "speaks" like this with their keyboard, I see a saggy pants sideways hat having Fred Durst worshipping motherfucker......right or wrong, I see a total lack of intelligent life. IMHO, if you cant at least get on THIS board & "speak" (type, spell, etc.) like you have at least a 5th grade education, then be prepared to take some heat for it, if you dont like it then GTFO. Anyone who got accepted into a major university for mechE should be able to "speak" better than that, especially if they want to be taken even a little bit seriously here. So are we flaming your dawg? Sure. Dont try to act like its not obvious as to why.

As for him stating "facts", you realize that most of us will know that an NA 1.8L VW making 300hp is very unlikely, & if he just "said" that because he "saw" it & someone "said" that's what it has, does not make it a fact. Dyno sheet, video proof, those make it a fact. Stop trying to justify your stupid bullshit, & stop trying to compare yourself to Kyle.

[Genji Sama]

Just would like to point out one huge difference between Genji and TurboGeoMetro. Kyle signed up on the board and his very first post was about the turbo build he had already done. Genji has posted about... well you already know what he's posted about.

Though that is a difference, it's hardly relevant. His first post was an introduction similar to mine, true his build was already complete, and mine was unmentioned. But that doesn't change the significance of the completed car itself, a 14 sec metro still proves to be as pointless as a build as a 14 sec teg, both cars still run 14s and with the amount of money spent to get each car there, you could've bought a nicer faster car, still. A significan similarity however is that we both did it for our love of cars and to fuel our growth in that area. Not to build a lightning fast super car.

[zmasterB]

. But that doesn't change the significance of the completed car itself, a 14 sec metro still proves to be as pointless as a build as a 14 sec teg,

You keep missing this...............

There's nothing that suprising about a f**king Integra that runs 14's.




A Geo Metro that runs 14's is very very suprising, & different.

[Grider]

You act like how many pages passed between the comment and everyone's reference really matters. It's the fact that several pages worth comments had already passed before everyone decided to say something.

WTF are you smoking? You cannot even realize that what I was referring to was your comment, not what you what you were quoting? Why even bring up a time difference between my response to your post?

VTB; this is sad, like a cat batting around a small rodent before eating it whole.

[Genji Sama]

Methinks he's overlooked a lot on here.



As for the 3 pages back thing, sorry I had to do work, at work, & couldnt jump on the flaming bandwagon at the proper time.

The "stupidity" part Grider speaks of doesnt necessarily come from what he said, but how he said it.......

I personally get f'n sick of seeing shit like this, not just on here, but all over the internetz, I'll use 2 examples from this thread:







When I read this, personally, I interpret that as the way one talks. When one "speaks" like this with their keyboard, I see a saggy pants sideways hat having Fred Durst worshipping motherfucker......right or wrong, I see a total lack of intelligent life. IMHO, if you cant at least get on THIS board & "speak" (type, spell, etc.) like you have at least a 5th grade education, then be prepared to take some heat for it, if you dont like it then GTFO. Anyone who got accepted into a major university for mechE should be able to "speak" better than that, especially if they want to be taken even a little bit seriously here. So are we flaming your dawg? Sure. Dont try to act like its not obvious as to why.

As for him stating "facts", you realize that most of us will know that an NA 1.8L VW making 300hp is very unlikely, & if he just "said" that because he "saw" it & someone "said" that's what it has, does not make it a fact. Dyno sheet, video proof, those make it a fact. Stop trying to justify your stupid bullshit, & stop trying to compare yourself to Kyle.


Is this any different from the use of the word "mang"?
What "stupid bullshit"? My plan to build an all motor car? I don't give a damn whether you think it's stupid or not. And as for my comparisons to kyle, it's the internet I can do what I fuckin please. If I want to know why kyle's build was taken in a different light than mine then I'm gonna do so. Ya'll have been so eager for me to dip into this wealth of knowledge ya'll provide, now that I'm asking shit you don't want to answer. Whether it be about why a build is respectable or the build itself I'm still asking questions. And in all ya'lls knowledge how come noone has pointed out that it won't take anywhere near 10k to build a 205whp teg?

[zmasterB]

And in all ya'lls knowledge how come noone has pointed out that it won't take anywhere near 10k to build a 205whp teg?

WTF

It was 300hp, now its 205????



GTFO :redFU:


Is this any different from the use of the word "mang"?

Are you seriously so obtuse that you cannot see that was used as a joke? That Mike really doesnt talk like that IRL? GTFO again

[Genji Sama]

You keep missing this...............
There's nothing that suprising about a f**king Integra that runs 14's.
A Geo Metro that runs 14's is very very suprising, & different.

Noted. So now for this question. On my first build ever, I should be attempting to build a car that suprises everyone who sees it run?

[VR4Rob]

Noted. So now for this question. On my first build ever, I should be attempting to build a car that suprises everyone who sees it run?
At this rate, anything you 'build' that 'runs' will surprise the hell out of us.

[Genji Sama]

At this rate, anything you 'build' that 'runs' will surprise the hell out of us.

This is a good example as to why I don't indulge in the "wealth of knowledge" you guys supply. It's full of vicious remarks such as this one. Anybody willing to answer the question as to what my target time should be for my integra going with a N/A build. I want to do a N/A build to learn more about how the parts in the motor come together to functoin, not to make an insanely fast all motor car.

[insert_car]

this is so tired. you're far beyond any help because you simple do not listen. i'm finished here. lets let this and his existence here fade away.

k thx bye bye


Genji, by thx i mean thanks.

[Genji Sama]

WTF
It was 300hp, now its 205????
GTFO :redFU:

Before you get all big font and redFU on me, re-read the text. I've always said my goal was to simply beat a type R and that the number was set a 300, b/c that was the number I thought would be safe for walking a type R. Also that number was mentioned as 300chp, not whp. 300chp, from my understanding is about 250whp, which ya'll have stated was impossible several times and I accepted as a the truth. So me moving the number down 40whp, does not seem illogical, does it? And so a 14sec teg is not as impressive as 14sec Geo. Why should I be trying to impress the world on my first build ever? I'm asking questions now.

[Genji Sama]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX37pixGlR0&feature=PlayList&p=3BFD218E842E8A24&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

Somebody call this guy up and tell him he's a ricer with that trashy Black and white paintjob. ...JK. I can't even joke about calling that rice, too clean

[Genji Sama]

Or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7mStcymQqA sorry that they're all bimmers, just gotta toss in some rich kid love.

[Jess]

So me moving the number down 40whp, does not seem illogical, does it?

Holy shit you actually fucking learned something in these 200 posts. Now let's start a thread to get your car looking presentable.

[Genji Sama]

Holy shit you actually fucking learned something in these 200 posts. Now let's start a thread to get your car looking presentable.

I posted that I recognized that number was out of range a while ago. I don't wanna go find the post, but remember I said I did some research, the someone responded, "so you won't listen to us, but you'll go to H-T" or something to that effect. I won't easily be swayed to repaint my car a different color unless someone can post a pic of a car with similar parts as mine with a mono-chromatic paint job. But i'm up for the idea of ppl pitching idea about what I could do aesthetically.

[Jess]

i'm up for the idea of ppl pitching idea about what I could do aesthetically.

http://www.apexexporters.com/Images/matches.jpg

+

http://www.blitzusa.com/products/fuel/Containment/images/50805%201%20plus%20Self-%20Venting%20Gas%20Can.jpg

[insert_car]

I won't easily be swayed to repaint my car a different color unless someone can post a pic of a car with similar parts as mine with a mono-chromatic paint job. But i'm up for the idea of ppl pitching idea about what I could do aesthetically.

just when i thought it was a brick wall....i see a small crack of light.

people have mentioned some things that would help your car but you have either dismissed those thoughts immediately or started some argument defending your cause. i.e. wheels, paint

LOL @ JESS!!

[Genji Sama]

just when i thought it was a brick wall....i see a small crack of light.

people have mentioned some things that would help your car but you have either dismissed those thoughts immediately or started some argument defending your cause. i.e. wheels, paint

LOL @ JESS!!

What thread were you reading??? I've never ever said I liked the wheels on my car (I hate these wheels, the only reason they are on the car is b/c they're the wheels that came with the car and earlier I asked Adam P if he knew of any wheels, other than GS-R wheels, that he would suggest. I'm holding true on my paint unless someone presents a car with similar or the same parts with a better paint scheme.

@Jess.....price is set at 6k, to carry out your pyro dreams

[EliteGSR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX37pixGlR0&feature=PlayList&p=3BFD218E842E8A24&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

Somebody call this guy up and tell him he's a ricer with that trashy Black and white paintjob. ...JK. I can't even joke about calling that rice, too clean

I'll admit, that's actually pretty clean. It's not my style with the upper half of the car a different color, but it is clean. However, he didn't decide to paint random parts of his car different colors. Your car has white side skirts and black rear valences... that just doesn't work. Also, cars like M3s have the ability to pull off abstract/random paint jobs better than run of the mill Integras. For instance, an M3 with a satin black paint job looks nice, and an Integra with a satin black paint job looks like the owner ran out of money to get his car finished.

Examples, just in case you're not getting the idea:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_______m3.jpg
Looks good on the M3... no-no *hits nose with newspaper* not on the Integra.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/______LAMBO.jpg
I don't even like this paint job, but the Lambo pulls it off. An Integra could not.

Examples of "panda" paint jobs or whatever you like to refer to it as:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_________ferrari.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_________nsx.jpg
A HONDA with a black and white scheme that works. Are you getting this yet?

One more for good measure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_______porsche.jpg

I know you're going to think "well man, I'm just trying to be unique." Unique or not, some things just DO NOT WORK... period.

[Jess]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_________nsx.jpg


I'm touching myself right now.

[Shift6]

One more for good measure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_______porsche.jpg
That doesn't work.

[insert_car]

What thread were you reading??? I've never ever said I liked the wheels on my car (I hate these wheels, the only reason they are on the car is b/c they're the wheels that came with the car and earlier I asked Adam P if he knew of any wheels, other than GS-R wheels, that he would suggest.


i am not nor have i ever hung on your every word so i don't remember EVERYTHING you said and i'm not going to look for it but i remember the wheels talk. what's wrong with changing them? what's your price range? you don't like gsr wheels?

[EliteGSR]

That doesn't work.

Although better than a black and white Integra...

[Shifty]

ENOUGH WITH THE PANDAS

http://www.freewebs.com/twoheadsarebetterthanone/photos/Misc/panda.jpg

[dixond]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX37pixGlR0&feature=PlayList&p=3BFD218E842E8A24&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

Somebody call this guy up and tell him he's a ricer with that trashy Black and white paintjob. ...JK. I can't even joke about calling that rice, too clean

Or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7mStcymQqA sorry that they're all bimmers, just gotta toss in some rich kid love.


Done and Done.
Peep the links, homeslice.

[insert_car]

Done and Done.
Peep the links, homeslice.

HAHAHAHAA

[zmasterB]

Done and Done.
Peep the links, homeslice.

ROFL :rolllaugh


*Literally too, I'm not just saying that

[Genji Sama]

i am not nor have i ever hung on your every word so i don't remember EVERYTHING you said and i'm not going to look for it but i remember the wheels talk. what's wrong with changing them? what's your price range? you don't like gsr wheels?

Nothings wrong with changing my wheels. I want to, they look like hell. As for the price range I would like to stay under $375, but I can stretch it a lil. I like gsr wheels, on a gsr. With the type r wing it looks funny and they only make gsr wheels in 15' i want to do 16's

[Genji Sama]

I'll admit, that's actually pretty clean. It's not my style with the upper half of the car a different color, but it is clean. However, he didn't decide to paint random parts of his car different colors. Your car has white side skirts and black rear valences... that just doesn't work. Also, cars like M3s have the ability to pull off abstract/random paint jobs better than run of the mill Integras. For instance, an M3 with a satin black paint job looks nice, and an Integra with a satin black paint job looks like the owner ran out of money to get his car finished.

Examples, just in case you're not getting the idea:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_______m3.jpg
Looks good on the M3... no-no *hits nose with newspaper* not on the Integra.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/______LAMBO.jpg
I don't even like this paint job, but the Lambo pulls it off. An Integra could not.

Examples of "panda" paint jobs or whatever you like to refer to it as:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_________ferrari.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_________nsx.jpg
A HONDA with a black and white scheme that works. Are you getting this yet?

One more for good measure.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v606/Eclipse1704/_______porsche.jpg

I know you're going to think "well man, I'm just trying to be unique." Unique or not, some things just DO NOT WORK... period.

Wasn't feeling the Lambo or the Ferrari (notes this moment, I probably will never ever say that again). I was just pointing out the fact that two tone works, some don't think it works on teg some do. Not trying to start something just proving it works.

[insert_car]

Wasn't feeling the Lambo or the Ferrari (notes this moment, I probably will never ever say that again). I was just pointing out the fact that two tone works, some don't think it works on teg some do. Not trying to start something just proving it works.

well yes 2 tone does work but it has to be done right and it is HARDLY ever done right. and you can't compare an extremely nice ride like an e93 m3 with tons of power and handling capabilities to an old integra. exotics and high end cars can pull off things others can't just as elitegsr has pointed out with his post.

[Jess]

I was just pointing out the fact that two tone works, some don't think it works on teg some do.

Some people think the earth is 6000 years old.

wiggidy whack ch'yall

[EliteGSR]

Wasn't feeling the Lambo or the Ferrari (notes this moment, I probably will never ever say that again). I was just pointing out the fact that two tone works, some don't think it works on teg some do. Not trying to start something just proving it works.

Who?
Your car isn't even really two-toned... it looks like you mixed and matched parts from different cars. I proved that it works... in the right context. On an Integra, like yours, it doesn't work.


I like gsr wheels, on a gsr
...says the kid with a Type R wing on his auto LS...
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/66w65v.jpg.gif

[zmasterB]

Nothings wrong with changing my wheels. I want to, they look like hell. As for the price range I would like to stay under $375, but I can stretch it a lil. I like gsr wheels, on a gsr. With the type r wing it looks funny and they only make gsr wheels in 15' i want to do 16's

*sigh* Ok,

I'll probably get flamed for this (bring it on bitches), but for a 16", new wheels, in that price range I'd say.......

XXR (Sportmax) 002's

http://www.xxrwheels.com/sportmax_002.shtml

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c183/vtecdis/xxr002.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j49/daveypug/frost20white20hatch2001.jpg

The 16X8's are all +0, the 16X7's are all +38..........the color to work on your car should be either silver/machined, or gold/machined IMO.

*After a little looking it seems the color options may be limited with a 4X100 lug pattern wheel......gunmetal wouldnt be bad, but I think gold or silver would look the best. Definite no on any solid black ones or something of that nature.

[Jess]

*sigh* Ok,

I'll probably get flamed for this (bring it on bitches), but for a 16", new wheels, in that price range I'd say.......

XXR (Sportmax) 002's




I hate to say it but those look tittays on miatas (way played out though). That exhaust is pimp.

[zmasterB]

I hate to say it but those look tittays on miatas (way played out though). That exhaust is pimp.

The same on S13's when properly applied ;) LOL poor man's Panasports

[insert_car]

agreed. a great looking wheel for cheap. do it

[CPMaverick]

I like the two-tone style of those wheels. So clean.

[AlmosN8kd]

Noted. So now for this question. On my first build ever, I should be attempting to build a car that suprises everyone who sees it run?

Genji,

Please take this as a polite conversation. Not a dig, insult, flame, or anything derogatory. Comment if you must but a reply is neither desired nor required. I'm going to go all the way back to the beginning of the shitstorm, no quotes, just bring up the "basic" details.

You originally said you weren't interested in a turbo build because you couldn't afford it, fair enough; yes, I know I left a lot of details and B.S. out of this. Now, some more questions came out after this which resulted in you releasing more information such as your 300CHP goal (if possible) so you knew you could walk a stock Type-R which is your goal with this LS of yours.

For starters, there is nothing wrong with building an all-motor anything and I think 99% of everyone on here will agree with that.

Where the conflict really started is when multiple people told you to build a 300CHP N/A Integra is going to cost you multiples of what it would take for you to build a boosted Integra, be more reliable, be more efficient at the pump, and overall be more powerful. To top it off, you said if you can't do it with your stock LS motor that you'd switch over to a K-series because you want to go all-motor no matter what (nothing wrong with that).

However, the issue is that you're contradicting yourself over and over. The "masses" who know a thing or two about building N/A Hondas (Tom for example owns one) and several others who have been building performance cars both on and off the boost have told you it will cost you significantly more for the LS build than going with boost and, on top of that build, it would cost probably around $10k to fully swap a K-series engine into your car (after the engine, trans, half-shafts, suspension, subframe, harness, mounts, etc). Yet, despite all of these other guys (which, I'll admit, I am not one of, I know nothing of building a Honda) you still firmly believe that you're going to be able to build your stock LS engine and if that doesn't beat a Type R you're going to switch to a K-series all for under $10k.

Does this sound like a good synopsis of the events of the past few days from your recollection?

Now, from here, there are two options. Well, three options:

1) You could prove that everything you need to build your engine (pistons, head, cams, tuning, machine work, etc) will cost, say less than $3k, leaving a $7k reserve for the K-swap, to keep you under your $10k limit (perhaps you have a hook up for good quality Honda performance parts (family deal) that helps you get stuff cheaply).

2) You could ask (seriously, just ask a legitimate question) on what the experienced and knowledgeable folks would estimate your N/A LS build to say "max it out" (no HP limit, just full on, how much can you get out of it).

3) Ignore it and this post, walk away, and find something else shiny to poke at.

Again, I'm not trying to dig up old shit or cause more drama but you have to be realistic about a lot of this; these guys aren't trying to tell you this to sway your build plans but maybe help you realize that the N/A build is going to cost you way more than you're anticipating for what your goal is and that "maybe" a turbo build would be more economical in more ways than one. "We" the mass majority of aSpeed do not go around looking to start e-bullshit (believe it or not) but this has whole ordeal just so many opportunities. And, this isn't a "Go-Boost or Go-Home" forum although there is a strong recommendation to turbocharge since it is so damned cost effective for the amount of power gains obtained. The spelling/grammar thing, yes, needs improvement, but can be overlooked for a reasonable conversation and a willingness to improve, I think.

[XSivPSI]

What thread were you reading??? I've never ever said I liked the wheels on my car (I hate these wheels, the only reason they are on the car is b/c they're the wheels that came with the car and earlier I asked Adam P if he knew of any wheels, other than GS-R wheels, that he would suggest. I'm holding true on my paint unless someone presents a car with similar or the same parts with a better paint scheme.

@Jess.....price is set at 6k, to carry out your pyro dreams

Well if we can produce one for you to copy where is your innovation?!?!

[XSivPSI]

I like the two-tone style of those wheels. So clean.


Lmao

Ok, stop helping. He doesn't deserve it. wtf.

[Genji Sama]

I like the two-tone style of those wheels. So clean.

Almost as clean as that broom stick stuck in your :asshole:, huh?



Genji,

Please take this as a polite conversation. Not a dig, insult, flame, or anything derogatory. Comment if you must but a reply is neither desired nor required. I'm going to go all the way back to the beginning of the shitstorm, no quotes, just bring up the "basic" details.

You originally said you weren't interested in a turbo build because you couldn't afford it, fair enough; yes, I know I left a lot of details and B.S. out of this. Now, some more questions came out after this which resulted in you releasing more information such as your 300CHP goal (if possible) so you knew you could walk a stock Type-R which is your goal with this LS of yours.

For starters, there is nothing wrong with building an all-motor anything and I think 99% of everyone on here will agree with that.

Where the conflict really started is when multiple people told you to build a 300CHP N/A Integra is going to cost you multiples of what it would take for you to build a boosted Integra, be more reliable, be more efficient at the pump, and overall be more powerful. To top it off, you said if you can't do it with your stock LS motor that you'd switch over to a K-series because you want to go all-motor no matter what (nothing wrong with that).

However, the issue is that you're contradicting yourself over and over. The "masses" who know a thing or two about building N/A Hondas (Tom for example owns one) and several others who have been building performance cars both on and off the boost have told you it will cost you significantly more for the LS build than going with boost and, on top of that build, it would cost probably around $10k to fully swap a K-series engine into your car (after the engine, trans, half-shafts, suspension, subframe, harness, mounts, etc). Yet, despite all of these other guys (which, I'll admit, I am not one of, I know nothing of building a Honda) you still firmly believe that you're going to be able to build your stock LS engine and if that doesn't beat a Type R you're going to switch to a K-series all for under $10k.

Does this sound like a good synopsis of the events of the past few days from your recollection?

Now, from here, there are two options. Well, three options:

1) You could prove that everything you need to build your engine (pistons, head, cams, tuning, machine work, etc) will cost, say less than $3k, leaving a $7k reserve for the K-swap, to keep you under your $10k limit (perhaps you have a hook up for good quality Honda performance parts (family deal) that helps you get stuff cheaply).

2) You could ask (seriously, just ask a legitimate question) on what the experienced and knowledgeable folks would estimate your N/A LS build to say "max it out" (no HP limit, just full on, how much can you get out of it).

3) Ignore it and this post, walk away, and find something else shiny to poke at.

Again, I'm not trying to dig up old shit or cause more drama but you have to be realistic about a lot of this; these guys aren't trying to tell you this to sway your build plans but maybe help you realize that the N/A build is going to cost you way more than you're anticipating for what your goal is and that "maybe" a turbo build would be more economical in more ways than one. "We" the mass majority of aSpeed do not go around looking to start e-bullshit (believe it or not) but this has whole ordeal just so many opportunities. And, this isn't a "Go-Boost or Go-Home" forum although there is a strong recommendation to turbocharge since it is so damned cost effective for the amount of power gains obtained. The spelling/grammar thing, yes, needs improvement, but can be overlooked for a reasonable conversation and a willingness to improve, I think.

Yeah, i'll say this as politely as possible to you. Again, i'm not going to take the time to read all that crap (you had all night to tell me this in person, but I think you'd rather put on a show for your buddies here), but again, I gave you the BOTD thinking, he probably posted something note worthy, but all I saw was 99% of the people here would agree that nothings wrong with an N/A build and I'm gonna call :BS: on that. Oh and please don't stop so suddenly in the parking deck, no one is following you. The last thing we need in their is an accident and the cops to get a reason to prohibit us from enjoying ourselves. You could've made your point simply enough by saying slow down, which we did.

@XsiP (whatever the hell your name is).....You really want to join in on this don't you. You've commented twice in this thread and again in another. It's alright, i'll pay you some attention now. So child speak, whats on your mind?

[Genji Sama]

@ almostn8kd....feeling merciful I read the last paragraphy thoroughly as well as my 3 options....My response remains the same (just thought I'd update you)...So now here's your 1 option, well sorta a command really. Piss off and go poke something shiny, I don't take advice from rice.. that is all;)

[Grider]

Its Wed morning... lets get a forecast update:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/banhammer_forecast.gif

[AlmosN8kd]

Jesus Christ man, someone tries to be civil and you act like a fucking bitch over it. This is exactly why I didn't talk to you face to face, because of shit like this; for all I know, I'd try to talk to you like a person and you'd get all defensive over it, so, instead of causing a problem, I let it be, figured if we were going to talk, it would happen. When I got back home, I checked the forum, read through the thread, and posted something cosiderate only to be back-talked to by a punk kid, fuck that, grow up, junior. Your dipshit friend, after acting like an ass all night in the parking deck, whipped out behind me like he was going to start some shit so I shut him down right there. I'm not going to play games in person like that so you and your fake ass friends can go find a new place to hang out, this group has been hanging out there long before I was a member of aSpeed; and last I checked, my ricer ass is still welcome.

[Genji Sama]

Who?
Your car isn't even really two-toned... it looks like you mixed and matched parts from different cars. I proved that it works... in the right context. On an Integra, like yours, it doesn't work.
...says the kid with a Type R wing on his auto LS...
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/66w65v.jpg.gif

Well then...Someone light your tampon? You have officially earned the :fuckoff: smiley. But to answer your question as to who, you can pull up the thread titled "mah Debut" on IA as well as search through my rep to see I have multiple positive reps for "the car in my sig" as they put it. Also on Team-Integra I've recieved my fair share of compliments.
And so I don't leave any part of your quote unaddressed as to leave you something to bitch about. The difference between putting a ITR wing on an LS and GSR wheels on a car with an ITR wing. Is that, aesthetically it's confusing since GSR wheels are associated with a GSR (whoa) and the ITR wing is associated with ITR (startling). But puttin an ITR wing on an LS, you've completed the aesthetic transformation to being an ITR, minus the 5lug and the ITR stickers.

[Anderson]

But to answer your question as to who, you can pull up the thread titled "mah Debut" on IA as well as search through my rep to see I have multiple positive reps for "the car in my sig" as they put it.

Getting "+ rep" on IA is the same thing as getting a medal in the Special Olympics.

[Genji Sama]

Jesus Christ man, someone tries to be civil and you act like a fucking bitch over it. This is exactly why I didn't talk to you face to face, because of shit like this; for all I know, I'd try to talk to you like a person and you'd get all defensive over it, so, instead of causing a problem, I let it be, figured if we were going to talk, it would happen. When I got back home, I checked the forum, read through the thread, and posted something cosiderate only to be back-talked to by a punk kid, fuck that, grow up, junior. Your dipshit friend, after acting like an ass all night in the parking deck, whipped out behind me like he was going to start some shit so I shut him down right there. I'm not going to play games in person like that so you and your fake ass friends can go find a new place to hang out, this group has been hanging out there long before I was a member of aSpeed; and last I checked, my ricer ass is still welcome.

El oh fuckin' el. I didn't even know you were you until you left and everybody asked had you said something to me. My friend had been giving rides to people all night and he was doing the same when you blew up on him (if you noticed the passenger in his car). LMAO, when he got back he was confused as hell as to why you thought he was following you. I'm no child if I have a problem with a person I will be the one to address you, not my friends. He never even said a word to you him acting like an ass was simply him being a little showey, he got a big head cuz everybody kept asking to drive and ride in his car (stock KA, baffles me to). Again I say If you have a problem with me. Address me, not my friends, not my associates, or anyone else you can think of. I don't know how you reasoned that talking to me in person would've gotten a worse response than continuing this little show in front of your internet friends. I'm like half your size whats the worst that could've happen, I kicked you in the shin and ran (kidding a lot worst). You need to stop being paranoid and grow the fuck up. I'm no child, I don't play these little intimidation games, talking about "hey on tuesday want to go take out the trash". I was at the meet tonight, b/c I enjoy the people there and the cars.

[Genji Sama]

Jesus Christ man, someone tries to be civil and you act like a fucking bitch over it. This is exactly why I didn't talk to you face to face, because of shit like this; for all I know, I'd try to talk to you like a person and you'd get all defensive over it, so, instead of causing a problem, I let it be, figured if we were going to talk, it would happen. When I got back home, I checked the forum, read through the thread, and posted something cosiderate only to be back-talked to by a punk kid, fuck that, grow up, junior. Your dipshit friend, after acting like an ass all night in the parking deck, whipped out behind me like he was going to start some shit so I shut him down right there. I'm not going to play games in person like that so you and your fake ass friends can go find a new place to hang out, this group has been hanging out there long before I was a member of aSpeed; and last I checked, my ricer ass is still welcome.

El oh fuckin' el. I didn't even know you were you until you left and everybody asked had you said something to me. My friend had been giving rides to people all night and he was doing the same when you blew up on him (if you noticed the passenger in his car). LMAO, when he got back he was confused as hell as to why you thought he was following you. I'm no child if I have a problem with a person I will be the one to address you, not my friends. He never even said a word to you him acting like an ass was simply him being a little showey, he got a big head cuz everybody kept asking to drive and ride in his car (stock KA, baffles me to). Again I say If you have a problem with me. Address me, not my friends, not my associates, or anyone else you can think of. I don't know how you reasoned that talking to me in person would've gotten a worse response than continuing this little show in front of your internet friends. I'm like half your size whats the worst that could've happen, I kicked you in the shin and ran (kidding a lot worst). You need to stop being paranoid and grow the fuck up. I'm no child, I don't play these little intimidation games, talking about "hey on tuesday want to go take out the trash". I was at the meet tonight, b/c I enjoy the people there and the cars.

[CPMaverick]

aesthetically it's confusing

I think you just summed up your car's look in a nutshell. :P

[Nstig8r]

Its Wed morning... lets get a forecast update:

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LOL!! I am done with this guy too... Tired of playing with him. He is obviously as sharp as a marshmallow, and does not "get" that bashing everyone only making things worse for him. Wish I could have come out tonight, but I currently have a Kleenex stuffed up each nostril...

Kid... You better find somewhere else to play, unless you grow up REAL fast. I won't play nice like some of the others did tonight...

[Genji Sama]

LOL!! I am done with this guy too... Tired of playing with him. He is obviously as sharp as a marshmallow, and does not "get" that bashing everyone only making things worse for him. Wish I could have come out tonight, but I currently have a Kleenex stuffed up each nostril...

Kid... You better find somewhere else to play, unless you grow up REAL fast. I won't play nice like some of the others did tonight...

Some of the others, GTFO. What's up with you and this attempted intimidation shit. The only "others" that you mentioned was almostn8kd and he sat in his car til I walked away from a group of people then he got the nerve to talk to some people (mind you I didn't even know who he was, I thought his only car was his stealth). I don't give a damn if you show up and play nice or not. Why don't you stop playin like a bitch, like your friend who did show up. If you have something to me don't try and put it on the web for all your friends to see, see me in person. And then don't blow up on some random person, because you're mad you never got the nerve to talk to me (referencing the event tonight)

[EliteGSR]

Well then...Someone light your tampon? You have officially earned the :fuckoff: smiley. But to answer your question as to who, you can pull up the thread titled "mah Debut" on IA as well as search through my rep to see I have multiple positive reps for "the car in my sig" as they put it. Also on Team-Integra I've recieved my fair share of compliments.
And so I don't leave any part of your quote unaddressed as to leave you something to bitch about. The difference between putting a ITR wing on an LS and GSR wheels on a car with an ITR wing. Is that, aesthetically it's confusing since GSR wheels are associated with a GSR (whoa) and the ITR wing is associated with ITR (startling). But puttin an ITR wing on an LS, you've completed the aesthetic transformation to being an ITR, minus the 5lug and the ITR stickers.

Say, thanks for the eff off smiley. :35:

I bet the people who have complemented your car have grrrrrreat taste.

You missed a couple things on the "completion" of the "aesthetic transformation" of "being an ITR." You still have side moulding. No one in their right mind would have your wheels on a Type R. I've never seen a Type R with the optional rear valences a different color from the optional skirts. Regarding your smart ass comments about GSR wheels being associated with a GSR (whoa) and the ITR wing being associated with ITR (startling)... you have no argument there. Your car is neither of the two. Either way you look at it your car is miss-matched. Do you have a Type R interior as well? No. Anyone who knows Hondas, namely Integras, would have a list of things to let them know your car isn't a Type R. To be honest, if you came into this forum asking questions and being open to criticism, you would've had much better luck. Calling out OGs on the forum and acting like a egotistical prick leads me to believe you're knowledge is far less than what I first expected.

[AlmosN8kd]

El oh fuckin' el. I didn't even know you were you until you left and everybody asked had you said something to me. My friend had been giving rides to people all night and he was doing the same when you blew up on him (if you noticed the passenger in his car). LMAO, when he got back he was confused as hell as to why you thought he was following you. I'm no child if I have a problem with a person I will be the one to address you, not my friends. He never even said a word to you him acting like an ass was simply him being a little showey, he got a big head cuz everybody kept asking to drive and ride in his car (stock KA, baffles me to). Again I say If you have a problem with me. Address me, not my friends, not my associates, or anyone else you can think of. I don't know how you reasoned that talking to me in person would've gotten a worse response than continuing this little show in front of your internet friends. I'm like half your size whats the worst that could've happen, I kicked you in the shin and ran (kidding a lot worst). You need to stop being paranoid and grow the fuck up. I'm no child, I don't play these little intimidation games, talking about "hey on tuesday want to go take out the trash". I was at the meet tonight, b/c I enjoy the people there and the cars.


Well, given your statements, I'll agree that I misread the situation. What I saw is the guy came in, speeding through the deck and making a show if it, parks, shuts his car down. Gets back in, re-parks so he is backed in directly across from where he was parked the first time (from the point in time after I got there). Guy in Lumina leaves. He jumps in his car, chases him down (in the deck), comes back a short time later, also speeding in the deck and making a show of it, and parks again, making a big production of it. At this point, I had enough, decided to leave; on my way past his car, window was open, so I leaned in and said, "Don't speed through the parking deck, asshole!" Yes, that is my direct quote. So, I got in my car and started to leave, at which point, I see him whip out behind me, like he was going to chase me down and start something (like what I interpreted happened with the Lumina). Yes, I did notice his passenger; but, every time I saw him drive away and come back, he had a passenger, I just thought it was the same guy as the first time I saw him come in (as in, the passenger got a ride there and was getting a ride back home); yes, probably a poor assumption on my part.

Now, obviously, this is my perspective, and from yours, I'll agree mine was most likely skewed. However, after the fact, I received messages thanking me for "checking" the guy to get him to stop acting like an ass (although, I'll admit that wasn't my intent). Not trying to say it was the right thing to do but none of you were telling the kid to stop acting like an idiot; yet, you didn't want him doing it?

Now, I took his situation and yours completely separate (but I do realize you two are friends) so my "show" at him was in no relation to you. I wouldn't have had any problem talking directly to you tonight. However, with the heat on the boards, figured I'd let bygones be bygones in person as some people take a lot of e-shit seriously where others do not; I don't know you that well, so I don't know how you take shit in person vs off the boards. Not worth the risk in my opinion to find out the hard way; not paranoia, just not wanting to cause a bigger problem (play it safe more or less). Was it immature to go that route? Yes, in some manner I agree it is; however, I don't hold grudges; so I believe things would work themselves out in the long run; therefore, I think it was the overall best way to go about things. Anyhow, at the same time, you could have come up and talked to me yet you chose not to (but, as you said, you didn't realize it was me until I was leaving, fair enough, I didn't know that at the time though). As for the "take the trash out" comment, yes, someone said that; however, I did not acknowledge that comment nor support it; I don't get into pissing battles about "I'm going to kick your ass at the bike racks after school" shit; I'm long past that period of my life. And, keyboard tough guys are everywhere; so, I do my best to avoid that whole cliche all together. Although, I must laugh at your "half my size" comment; dude, I'm like 5'5"; it'd be a fucking midget fight. (No, you bastards are not getting tickets to the show).

[AlmosN8kd]

Some of the others, GTFO. What's up with you and this attempted intimidation shit. The only "others" that you mentioned was almostn8kd and he sat in his car til I walked away from a group of people then he got the nerve to talk to some people (mind you I didn't even know who he was, I thought his only car was his stealth).

That would be an incorrect assumption. I pulled in, sat in my car long enough to put my hat on and grab my phone from the console. Then, I got out to call David who I was planning to meet there to give him a fuel pump and some other things which we had pre-arranged. There was no, I'm looking for Genji to avoid him; not sure how my extra 10 secs in my car were interpreted in that manner. Yes, I have multiple vehicles, I'm not a college kid anymore, I have a job, life, etc.

If you have something to me don't try and put it on the web for all your friends to see, see me in person. And then don't blow up on some random person, because you're mad you never got the nerve to talk to me (referencing the event tonight)

When I got home, after the meet, I didn't post something "for all my friends to see." I posted something in response to a post of yours which I didn't see until I got home. And, there was no "show" about the post; the first sentence states that it was supposed to be a polite conversation (as much as possible, I realize now that some of things I typed didn't come out that way). Please read it in its entirety. As for blowing up at your friend, please reference my most recent post before this one; that situation was separate from my perspective; I am not losing sleep over not talking to you man.

[Nstig8r]

What's up with you and this attempted intimidation shit.

WHAT'S MY SCREEN NAME BITCH!

The only "others" that you mentioned was almostn8kd and he sat in his car til I walked away from a group of people then he got the nerve to talk to some people (mind you I didn't even know who he was, I thought his only car was his stealth). I don't give a damn if you show up and play nice or not. Why don't you stop playin like a bitch, like your friend who did show up. If you have something to me don't try and put it on the web for all your friends to see, see me in person. And then don't blow up on some random person, because you're mad you never got the nerve to talk to me (referencing the event tonight)

I wasn't there because I am as sick as a dog right now. I have no idea what happened tonight, but I promise you I will confront you face to face... What you have not "gotten" about this forum (and also showing how stupid you are) is that you're talking shit to people who LIVE IN THE SAME FUCKING SMALL TOWN AS YOU. If you talk shit to people like on here, you better be prepared to back it up in person.

[Genji Sama]

Say, thanks for the eff off smiley. :35:

I bet the people who have complemented your car have grrrrrreat taste.

You missed a couple things on the "completion" of the "aesthetic transformation" of "being an ITR." You still have side moulding. No one in their right mind would have your wheels on a Type R. I've never seen a Type R with the optional rear valences a different color from the optional skirts. Regarding your smart ass comments about GSR wheels being associated with a GSR (whoa) and the ITR wing being associated with ITR (startling)... you have no argument there. Your car is neither of the two. Either way you look at it your car is miss-matched. Do you have a Type R interior as well? No. Anyone who knows Hondas, namely Integras, would have a list of things to let them know your car isn't a Type R. To be honest, if you came into this forum asking questions and being open to criticism, you would've had much better luck. Calling out OGs on the forum and acting like a egotistical prick leads me to believe you're knowledge is far less than what I first expected.

Really, didn't notice my car wasn't an ITR or GSR while I happened to be driving it. That could be why I don't want to put GSR blades on my car, could it be b/c i'm not trying to be a GSR. As to me not being a ITR, really did me not being 5lug, or having ITR interior hint you to that. I'm not trying to be a GSR or ITR, and it's agreed no one with a ITR would have my wheels, b/c they wouldn't fit they're 4x100, so thank for stating the obvious. In addition I didn't buy those wheels i've stated multiple times they came with the car. Now I ask you why would I come into the forum asking question if I wasn't plannin on moddin my car anymore past a manual conversion. And if you opened up my first thread, you would see I was very open to criticism. If someone told you your car looked like shit and you liked it would you drop $500 to get it painted. If so your a bigger bitch than I would've thought. I'm not gonna change the paint scheme on my car, cuz you don't like it. As for calling out the OGs, some of them get offended to easily. Jess handled his shit like a man, IDK what happened to Grider and You.

[AlmosN8kd]

if someone told you your car looked like shit and you liked it would you.....

Dude, that happened to me with the whole Lambo-doors thing. Doesn't phase me man, as it shouldn't you with the paint, wheels, etc. I like the door setup, that's why they're still there. Yeah, I get shit for them. Yeah, they're so played out, Lamborghini even skipped them on a model. Yeah, no one on here but me likes them. I don't get defensive over it, just let it be. Not everyone is going to like everything you do; just roll with it.

[Genji Sama]

That would be an incorrect assumption. I pulled in, sat in my car long enough to put my hat on and grab my phone from the console. Then, I got out to call David who I was planning to meet there to give him a fuel pump and some other things which we had pre-arranged. There was no, I'm looking for Genji to avoid him; not sure how my extra 10 secs in my car were interpreted in that manner. Yes, I have multiple vehicles, I'm not a college kid anymore, I have a job, life, etc.



When I got home, after the meet, I didn't post something "for all my friends to see." I posted something in response to a post of yours which I didn't see until I got home. And, there was no "show" about the post; the first sentence states that it was supposed to be a polite conversation (as much as possible, I realize now that some of things I typed didn't come out that way). Please read it in its entirety. As for blowing up at your friend, please reference my most recent post before this one; that situation was separate from my perspective; I am not losing sleep over not talking to you man.

Upon reading, I've concluded that you didn't act like a bitch, it was purely circumstantial. However, I would like to make clear, I have no qualm with anyone on this forum. Even if I had knew you were you from the start, I wouldn't have felt the need to approach you, were not friends, were not enemies. I'm me, your you, life goes on. As to address the future, this still applies I'm not going to address you unless it's necessary, but I won't avoid you either. If the group I'm chilling with shifts your way, I'll shift to and if conversation permits me to say something to you, I'll speak. Basically, I stand on neutral ground. Forum shit is forum shit.

[AlmosN8kd]

Upon reading, I've concluded that you didn't act like a bitch, it was purely circumstantial. However, I would like to make clear, I have no qualm with anyone on this forum. Even if I had knew you were you from the start, I wouldn't have felt the need to approach you, were not friends, were not enemies. I'm me, your you, life goes on. As to address the future, this still applies I'm not going to address you unless it's necessary, but I won't avoid you either. If the group I'm chilling with shifts your way, I'll shift to and if conversation permits me to say something to you, I'll speak. Basically, I stand on neutral ground. Forum shit is forum shit.


Agreed.

[EliteGSR]

Really, didn't notice my car wasn't an ITR or GSR while I happened to be driving it. That could be why I don't want to put GSR blades on my car, could it be b/c i'm not trying to be a GSR. As to me not being a ITR, really did me not being 5lug, or having ITR interior hint you to that. I'm not trying to be a GSR or ITR, and it's agreed no one with a ITR would have my wheels, b/c they wouldn't fit they're 4x100, so thank for stating the obvious. In addition I didn't buy those wheels i've stated multiple times they came with the car. Now I ask you why would I come into the forum asking question if I wasn't plannin on moddin my car anymore past a manual conversion. And if you opened up my first thread, you would see I was very open to criticism. If someone told you your car looked like shit and you liked it would you drop $500 to get it painted. If so your a bigger bitch than I would've thought. I'm not gonna change the paint scheme on my car, cuz you don't like it. As for calling out the OGs, some of them get offended to easily. Jess handled his shit like a man, IDK what happened to Grider and You.

WOW. Look man, I came in here with mild comments at first. You sir, are the one who continued with ignorant crap. I'm not even going to justify responding to the whole GSR/ITR appearance stuff above. I'll just refer you to your last post. If you get off to calling me names or whatever, more power to you... Being a little punk e-thug on a forum FULL of Auburn students and grads is a bad, bad, bad idea. Especially since your car sticks out like a sore, realllly sore thumb. I've lost most of my interest in this thread. I think I'm done here. Despite you throwing snide remarks about me and my personage, if you have any real questions about building your Integra, shoot me a PM. I've been building them since you were in grade school. :sadwave:

[Genji Sama]

WHAT'S MY SCREEN NAME BITCH!
I wasn't there because I am as sick as a dog right now. I have no idea what happened tonight, but I promise you I will confront you face to face... What you have not "gotten" about this forum (and also showing how stupid you are) is that you're talking shit to people who LIVE IN THE SAME FUCKING SMALL TOWN AS YOU. If you talk shit to people like on here, you better be prepared to back it up in person.

You honestly are a fucking child. I'm not challenging your fucking manhood or challenging you to a fight. I saw almostn8kd there tonight, I know ya'll live here. I still don't give a damn, you can be sick, you can show up, you can not show up. I really don't give a damn, I will always be there if time permits, because I enjoy it. You on the other hand, I have not seen since my attendance, so your coming to prove a point to me??? How fucking old are you. I'll let you wait til you show up so you can recognize how stupid you'll look when you walk up on me.

[Genji Sama]

Who?
Your car isn't even really two-toned... it looks like you mixed and matched parts from different cars. I proved that it works... in the right context. On an Integra, like yours, it doesn't work.



...says the kid with a Type R wing on his auto LS...
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^^^This is mild mannered. What??? You do realize in the IMG you posted a guy is about to get his head beat in right. Mild mannered? WTF is furious to you? Also says the "kid". I'm 3 maybe 4 years younger than you. Continuing to bash my car, when I've already stated Its your opinion is hardly mild-mannered as well as addressing me as kid and posting an image of a guy about to die. But from your last post I can infer that you've calmed down from whatever happen. So if I do decide to change the paint on my car and need some help, I'll shoot you a pm

[Grider]

^^^This is mild mannered. What??? You do realize in the IMG you posted a guy is about to get his head beat in right. Mild mannered? WTF is furious to you? Also says the "kid". I'm 3 maybe 4 years younger than you. Continuing to bash my car, when I've already stated Its your opinion is hardly mild-mannered as well as addressing me as kid and posting an image of a guy about to die. But from your last post I can infer that you've calmed down from whatever happen. So if I do decide to change the paint on my car and need some help, I'll shoot you a pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/internet-serious-business.jpg

You obviously are wound too fucking tight to be on this board.

I'll say it again
VTB

[Genji Sama]

Late comment because I forgot about it, but e-thug. Hardly, i've always said, if someone has a problem with me address me 1-1, nothing "thuggish" about that. i've also stressed proper english while typing (though I don't always uphold this myself), I don't type "mang", even jokingly. Other people in the forum are the ones talking about bringing there friends to take out the trash. I don't bring my "gang member" to help me when I have a problem, nor do I have any intention on having a confrontation with anybody here, the extent of my 1-1 covers simply discussing the issue

[Genji Sama]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/honig/internet-serious-business.jpg

You obviously are wound too fucking tight to be on this board.

I'll say it again
VTB

What's sad is you think what you say matters. I'm on this whole asking questions bit, so answer me this. How many times have you typed "VTB". And me pointing out how a person posting a GIF of someone else being beat to death, while talking to me, is not considered mild mannered does not mean i'm "wound tight". Your puss is what's wound so tight, that's why it hurt so bad when you got cunt punted:P, I bet you would love to see me banned. Then your feelings could stop being hurt huh? Is that why you follow this thread with such proficiency, but Vote to Ban on every opportunity? It obviously doesn't entertain you anymore or else you would long for its continued entertainment. So how bout you stop getting your panties in a bunch and go take some midol. It'll help you calm down

[Grider]

Your puss is what's wound so tight, that's why it hurt so bad when you got cunt punted

When exactly did I get "cunt punted"? :confused: