Auburn BBall Head Coach

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well here are the names being considered...

Mike Anderson, University of Missouri head coach

Gregg Marshall, Wichita State head coach

Tony Barbee, UTEP head coach

Chuck Person, L.A. Lakers special assistant

Mike Davis, UAB head coach


these are the serious names being talked about. i still like chuck person but idk if thats going to happen. i doubt we can pay mike anderson enough. i really like what mike davis has done at uab since mike anderson left.

[Turbo-GeoMetro]

Look for a guy under the radar. That's what UGA did when we got Mark Fox from Nevada, and he is turning out to be an excellent coach. When they hired him everyone else was like WTF?, but now he has excited the UGA fanbase when it comes to bball, which is saying something.

Kyle

[skyhighsami]

You do not want them to get UAB's coach. Rumors are he is soon to be on the chopping block and he has come up short the last several years. I would say they need to make a huge hire but we know Auburn doesn't usually do that. Look at Chizik I thought and still think he was a mistake. Take his staff (which he assembled and it is great) away and he isn't nearly as good. That is what he will struggle with, when you win people come hire away your assistants and given them head coaching jobs.

[VDUBNDizzy]

You do not want them to get UAB's coach. Rumors are he is soon to be on the chopping block and he has come up short the last several years. I would say they need to make a huge hire but we know Auburn doesn't usually do that. Look at Chizik I thought and still think he was a mistake. Take his staff (which he assembled and it is great) away and he isn't nearly as good. That is what he will struggle with, when you win people come hire away your assistants and given them head coaching jobs.

You also think slamming a dually is a good idea so anything you say is questionable at best.

[insert_car]

I would say they need to make a huge hire but we know Auburn doesn't usually do that. Look at Chizik I thought and still think he was a mistake. Take his staff (which he assembled and it is great) away and he isn't nearly as good. That is what he will struggle with, when you win people come hire away your assistants and given them head coaching jobs.


yeeeeaaaaaahh. this doesn't make any sense. do you know how coaching is done in college football??? of coarse the coaching staff makes the coach look good or bad. the head coach chooses his staff based on his plan and what would fit. he did a great job of that. the head coach always gets the team, boosters and fans believing in him and the goals. chizik was not a popular hire, the team was split in half before half of the season was over in tubby's last year. chizik came in, hired a great staff, got the team believing and winnning which got the fans behind him as well. you can't say chizik was a mistake. after a couple of years if he isn't successful then we can start talking about this.

OH AND, chizik came in with 7 DAYS left to recruit last year and pulled together a #14 recruiting class after that crazy bullshit tubbs left. and this year he gave us a #4 recruiting class.

but yeah chizik was a mistake :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



That is what he will struggle with, when you win people come hire away your assistants and given them head coaching jobs.

obvious statement is obvious

[skyhighsami]

Ok, maybe my point was missed all together. What I meant was, I don't think Chizik was a huge splash as a hire. He has energized the fan base even after going 3-5 in the SEC. My point was who is the genius behind the offense (obviously Auburn's biggest asset in '09)? Ok, Gus gets hired away (which will happen) would Auburn have been as close to Alabama in the Iron Bowl? The man knows his shit. I guess what I was saying in my opinion he has gotten the perfect staff together that seems to work really well together and did well with the players they had. I won't be convinced Chizik is a home run coach until his staff gets picked apart and he has to reload. I am basing this off his performance at Iowa State (granted small school few resources) versus what he could do at Auburn which has a great deal more. And Dizzy, you decided to mod a VW Roller Skate to whatever level you are at now. A vehicle that while fun to drive won't hook up and parts are stupid expensive for. So your opinion isn't worth anything. At least I took something and made it more useful minus having to cut a hole in the bed. Don't believe the "stupid bagged truck owning Bama fan" ask Sam.......don't get your vagina hurt because I jokingly called out Tom it was all in good fun.

[insert_car]

let me hook you up with some knowledge. first of all no, i did not know the actual records of iowa st over the years off the top of my head but i do know they a one of the worst football programs of all time. if you follow football this is common knowledge. chizik walked into iowa st's shit storm left by Dan McCarney which i'm sure you didn't know and thats ok cause i know your not a true follower of football. he basically gave up in his last 2 years and didn't recruit...period.

check it yo

2009 7-6
2008 2-10
2007 3-9
2006 4-8
2005 7-5
2004 7-5
2003 2-10
2002 7-7
2001 7-5
2000 9-3
1999 4-7
1998 3-8
1997 1-10
1996 2-9
1995 3-8
1994 0-10-1
1993 3-8
1992 4-7
1991 3-7-1
1990 4-6-1
1989 6-5
1988 5-6
1987 3-8
1986 6-5
1985 5-6
1984 2-7-2
1983 4-7
1982 4-6-1
1981 5-5-1

you don't even want me to show you the rest. it gets worse

now...just let those records sink in for a bit....



ok, if you throw any coach in that situation with a program like iowa st...the results will be the same. i know that you love how sabear incredible anus smells and he can do no wrong but even the great jebus that sabear is....he would do NOTHING with that program in 2 years. they have no players, no staff and no will to win. if you say he could, your just completely unrealistic.

In closing, to say chizik isn't a good coach because of what he did at iowa st and he wouldn't be good without his staff is crazy to me. by this logic saban can't coach because he sucked at miami.:rolleyes:

[insert_car]

we all no gus is the man, of coarse. he has been the man for some time before we hired him. the whole "coach isn't good without his staff" is a completely VOID argument as that is the case in most programs. your staff can make or break you. and no, chizik wasn't a splash hire haha i don't understand why you are stating the obvious on every topic lol.

[skyhighsami]

For someone like Saban I think the Pros were not for him. He is a manic recruiter right, you take that away and it is a shock so he wasn't a good NFL coach. Does that mean that Pete Carroll isn't a good coach? Both of them failed in the NFL but were head coaches before and had winning records before and after. He went pro and failed, a lot of the success in the NFL I think has a great deal to do with how they are wired. Let me asked you this, why do you think Chizik wasn't a splash hire? Was it him and his previous record and the questions surrounding him, or were minds put to ease as he started to surround himself with winners. As a Bama fan I laughed when he was announced. Then he began to assemble his staff and I thought.....oh shit. Now, when talks started of Gus leaving, tell me you didn't have a pucker moment. I am only saying I still have my doubts about Chizik as a head coach, he has been a good coordinator but the biggest identifier of a coach is how well they reload players and assistants. Now I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest just stating my opinion of Chizik and what they need to do different when they hire a new basketball coach.

[insert_car]

lol look i was just saying that because you brought up a failed head coaching position from chizik. anybody can do bad in coaching if put in a bad situation. just making a point that by your logic of chizik being a bad coach...saban was too. anyways...


i'm not arguing chizik wasn't a splash hire...that's a no brainer. you are completely wrong about minds being put to rest when he got his staff. people were only happy when he started winning. i knew gus wasn't going to stay around long before he started his first day at auburn. i thought he might get a head coaching job before he left tulsa. once again this is extremely obvious things you're stating. did i pucker, no, and i'm not kidding. i figured we would get 1-3 years out of him depending on how auburn did. teh fact is we have a ton of talent at auburn and even more (and better) coming in so chizik did his job. when gus leaves who will chizik get...no one knows but i'm sure he will get someone that is a good fit as he has done an excellent job as a head coach so far. of coarse there are doubts against chizik since he has only had one year but he has done an outstanding job so far. ESPECIALLY after walking into a COMPLETE shit storm left for him and with everyone against him. winnings rise to that occasion and he did that.

you said it yourself "he has been a good coordinator but the biggest identifier of a coach is how well they reload players and assistants."

how about a #4 recruiting class in his first year of recruiting? give the man some credit.

Now I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest just stating my opinion of Chizik and what they need to do different when they hire a new basketball coach.

nobody is pissing here, just talking facts and opinions. yes it would be great to grab a big hire but how and when has auburn ever done that in bball? lol never. will they? doubt it. you don't have to make a big hire to be successful

[skyhighsami]

Well, the people I am around felt more at ease once his staff started coming together, so that is how I came to my conclusion. I will give him some credit when he goes better than 3-5 in the SEC when the SEC was clearly down. Has he begun laying the ground work for a very good team for years to come? Yes, so next year we will see what he does with them. Funny how you say I am the one who loves the smell of Saban's anus but you are the one saying Chizik walked into a "shit storm" in both locations and eager to defend him.....I'm not the one pointing out why the coach of my favorite team is good. Obviously my point was lost completely because all I was trying to say is the basketball program won't get the same support instantly as the football team....so it will hopefully be handled differently. If you can't even slightly admit that Auburn is a football school first and basketball or whatever second, and unless the basketball team is winning a good bit there isn't much hype without someone selling the program and getting the fan base energized. Then I give up and will concede that I am not an authorized person to have any opinion and state it on Auburn Athletics and expect it to be taken as what it is, a non-biased opinion (believe it or not)

[insert_car]

If you can't even slightly admit that Auburn is a football school first and basketball or whatever second, and unless the basketball team is winning a good bit there isn't much hype without someone selling the program and getting the fan base energized. Then I give up and will concede that I am not an authorized person to have any opinion and state it on Auburn Athletics and expect it to be taken as what it is, a non-biased opinion (believe it or not)

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
wtf are you talking about? jesus christ man do you just make up shit as you go? WHEN oooohhhh when did i ever say auburn wasn't a football school???? please show me! of coarse we are a football school. if anything i was trying to imply we aren't into basketball as much as we should be. i have said in other threads we don't fill the stands so why would we make the arena bigger as you suggested lol. you are completely backwards and its impossible to enter a conversation about pretty much anything as you basically stat obvious facts OR say things like this that make ZERO sense and haven't even been brought up. dear lawd man.

on the other note. i'm not at all up chiziks ass but he has done a good job for what he was given. most sane people would agree. i think saban is a great coach and i have said that many times on here. stop making shit up to talk about.

[skyhighsami]

Nevermind....it is obvious you don't understand what I am getting at. Weagle Weagle War Damn Eagle.

[insert_car]

poor guy.

[skyhighsami]

poor guy.
my thoughts exactly

[Shifty]

Salami manages to come into a basketball thread and make it a Chizik vs Saban thread. Fucking amazing.

[skyhighsami]

Salami manages to come into a basketball thread and make it a Chizik vs Saban thread. Fucking amazing.
How do you get Salami from Sami Shiftless? You have that masters degree on lock come up with something better. I never started the whole Saban vs Chizik thing. I didn't even mention Saban nor was I compairing until Micheal mentioned it. If you weren't taking all those engineering classes maybe you could comprehend what you read.

[insert_car]

I never started the whole Saban vs Chizik thing. I didn't even mention Saban nor was I compairing until Micheal mentioned it. If you weren't taking all those engineering classes maybe you could comprehend what you read.

this is why i feel like you are asleep when you post. you have no clue what your posting lol.

your first post was this...

Look at Chizik I thought and still think he was a mistake. Take his staff (which he assembled and it is great) away and he isn't nearly as good. That is what he will struggle with, when you win people come hire away your assistants and given them head coaching jobs.

this is COMPLETELY about chizik, football and your thoughts on it. IN A BASKETBALL THREAD. you really have no clue what you are posting. its insane. your either completely lost.....or you are the worst I have ever seen with words. even if you don't want to admit it, you brought up chizik, football and your thoughts on it in this thread.
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[skyhighsami]

Salami manages to come into a basketball thread and make it a Chizik vs Saban thread. Fucking amazing.
This Twit said I made it into a Chizik vs Saban thread, I wasn't trying to. Only thing I was doing was compairing this hire to the last hire they had of this type. If everything I said wasn't being looked at as the Bamer is talking but instead of someone interested in sports and someone with an opinion it might make a little difference.

[insert_car]

bro. you can not possibly compare auburn basketball and football with the coaching hires. it doesn't even make sense because the 2 sports at auburn are SO incredibly different in what is expected. the fact that you brought up chizik is what started the football talk. thats what he means by chizik saban

the expectations in these two sports at auburn have nothing to do with each other which makes that comparison irrelevant.

let me put it this way. when lebo was fired...nobody cared in the media. when tubbs left it was front page first topic espn

[skyhighsami]

And, if that is not a trend that they want to maintain after spending 82-85M on a new arena then IN MY OPINION they need a big hire. With football you don't have to make a huge name hire, the seemingly not so great hire at the time can make some minor changes before a season and have everyone ready for kick off. With that being said you can take the same senario in basketball and no one will care UNTIL you start winning. Make a great hire now, create a buzz and come tip off people will be interested, add to that the fact of the new arena (which for Auburn to spend that kind of money shows me the University cares about it's basketball product) and the place will be packed. PREPARE FOR ALABAMA REFERENCE, when Alabama needed to make changes to the Coliseum they desided to "freshen" it up instead of build a new one. AGAIN IN MY OPINION that shows me that Auburn cares more about their basketball program than maybe Alabama does......that and Beard Eaves was a DUMP!!! (said as someone that went there to watch a game not as an Alabama fan!!)

[skyhighsami]

I just re-read this and see how my point got off topic but when I get to thinking I guess my thoughts run together as I am usually on my Blackberry at work "working" when I post and I understand how this could have been taken as a Chizik vs Saban pissing contest but in no way was I meaning to do that. I wanted to draw the comparision between coaching hires and what they needed to do with this one in my opinion......sorry for getting off my own topic. :confused:

[insert_car]

yes no doubt that good ole eaves was a dump. i went to countless games there adn also graduated in that place. its horrible lol. its a known fact to be one of the worst in the sec if not THE worst. i agree that making a big hire would be nice but from auburns track record of bball coaches since eaves...its not happening UNLESS they are actually going to make a dedication to making auburn bball important to students which is the biggest problem. hopefully they have a plan to get it done and seem to be moving in the right position.


I just re-read this and see how my point got off topic but when I get to thinking I guess my thoughts run together as I am usually on my Blackberry at work "working" when I post and I understand how this could have been taken as a Chizik vs Saban pissing contest but in no way was I meaning to do that. I wanted to draw the comparision between coaching hires and what they needed to do with this one in my opinion......sorry for getting off my own topic. :confused:

lol thank you. i understand the phone deal. thats why i never post on my phone. just read unless its a simple post

[Shifty]

I just re-read this and see how my point got off topic but when I get to thinking I guess my thoughts run together as I am usually on my Blackberry at work "working" when I post and I understand how this could have been taken as a Chizik vs Saban pissing contest but in no way was I meaning to do that. I wanted to draw the comparision between coaching hires and what they needed to do with this one in my opinion......sorry for getting off my own topic. :confused:

Like I said

[insert_car]

bobby knight name is being brought up again as wanting to head coach. i remember last year he was interested in bama and georgia but nothing came of it. ecu showed interests in the last few days but i think he isn't interested. not that auburn has been brought up with his name....but it made me think about having him. probably wouldn't be a bad move if we could get him (if auburn is interested and him too). he isn't as crazy as he use to be which is good lol. had a good run at tex tech before he resigned as well.

just and interesting thought.

[dixond]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4899366
hahaha, thats just sad
ESPN Article:
Worst Basketball Town: Auburn

Comment: "No one else is even close. This is a school that once booted the basketball team across the state line to Columbus, Ga., to play an exhibition game because the school scheduled an R.E.M. concert for the same night and didn't tell the basketball coach. And that was during the team's never-before, never-again run of five straight NCAA tournament trips. What does it say when they have to drop a curtain [to cover the upper deck] and down-size the seating capacity for high-flying Chris Porter and the 1999 SEC champions that went 29-4? When they budget $92.5 million for a new arena but set the seating capacity at 9,600? Football's pregame Tiger Walks draw bigger and more enthusiastic crowds."

[insert_car]

lol yeah i saw that the other day and have seen us on lists like that before. no surprise AT ALL to me. its ridiculous.

i don't understand why we don't get crowds. the games are fun and exciting, hang with friends, cheap. i just don't get it. maybe with the new arena it will be "hip" to chill there :confused: :confused:

"Also receiving votes: Tuscaloosa, Athens, Oxford."

true. but t-town is better than the others on the worst list

[Grider]

lol yeah i saw that the other day and have seen us on lists like that before. no surprise AT ALL to me. its ridiculous.

i don't understand why we don't get crowds. the games are fun and exciting, hang with friends, cheap. i just don't get it. maybe with the new arena it will be "hip" to chill there :confused: :confused:


No beer :), a dump of a stadium, dull ass alumni within driving distance, weak ass teams.

Also that statement was factually incorrect, the curtain wasn't there when Porter was playing.

[VR4Rob]

Also that statement was factually incorrect, the curtain wasn't there when Porter was playing.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Oh well :sadwave:

[insert_car]

Also that statement was factually incorrect, the curtain wasn't there when Porter was playing.


lol true. that was a fun team to watch. so exciting. to bad he was an idiot. he could have had a decent career in the nba

[Grider]

Comment: "No one else is even close. This is a school that once booted the basketball team across the state line to Columbus, Ga., to play an exhibition game because the school scheduled an R.E.M. concert for the same night and didn't tell the basketball coach. And that was during the team's never-before, never-again run of five straight NCAA tournament trips. What does it say when they have to drop a curtain [to cover the upper deck] and down-size the seating capacity for high-flying Chris Porter and the 1999 SEC champions that went 29-4? When they budget $92.5 million for a new arena but set the seating capacity at 9,600? Football's pregame Tiger Walks draw bigger and more enthusiastic crowds."

Just to point out the source of this comment:
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2010/02/who_said_auburn_is_the_secs_wo.html

Scarbinsky is a fucking idiot on the same level as Finebaum...

[FST 05]

lol true. that was a fun team to watch. so exciting. to bad he was an idiot. he could have had a decent career in the nba


Porter got busted for drugs did he not after he got into the NBA?

[insert_car]

Porter got busted for drugs did he not after he got into the NBA?

http://www.express-pc.com/images/cocaineDrink.jpg

[FST 05]

It's a hell of a drug

[insert_car]

looks like tubby smith is interested in auburn and auburn is interested in tubby. i think this would be a great move. he is proven. he is black so we get all the racist people to shut the fuck up:rolleyes: his type of ball belongs in the sec and i know he likes it in the sec. also the money is about right. he is making 1.9 mil and we are willing to pay 2 mil i think. this guy is good and i really think this could be the turn around for auburn bball. bring it tubby

out with a tubbs and in with a tubbs lol

[Grider]

Tony Barbee

http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2010/03/auburn_hires_tony_barbee_as_ne.html

LOL from comments:
Posted by msc0008
March 24, 2010, 7:51PM

Just thought of what we can name the arena guys!:

BARBEE'S DREAM HOUSE

[insert_car]

yup, i think this is a good hire. this guy is up and coming and proven. should be interesting to see how quickly he can get it going. he def got utep going quickly