The new car.....

[SweetLikeCandy]

Every day that goes by I find myself closer to getting the 240sx. 6 more days and it will be final. I need advise, lots of advise. I know nothing about this car, shameful....I know. I don't want to make the same mistakes that I made with the neon. This car must not be ruined.

Someone guide me. :oops:

[Jess]

Do you know if its SOHC or DOHC motor?
Got any money for mods?
Is it a shure thing?
Hatchback or not?
Year?

envy

[grizoove]

jessie, honestly you might want to find out a bit more before you get any car. Not saying you shouldn't get it, cause I love them...but the more you know the better off you will be. This will help you avoid neonization.

[AU RSX-S]

I need advise, lots of advise. Someone guide me. :oops:

Don't fuck it up! :johnny:

[ActiveAero]

What year?

[WiggiE]

I don't want to make the same mistakes that I made with the neon. This car must not be ruined.

Why do I not believe this??? :evil:

[SweetLikeCandy]

It's not a hatch,
It is a 1992
Not Sure about the motor, I wasn't able to look at it sense it is not offically repo'ed yet
and I'm still saving right now for some mods, but I do have alittle put back.
I'm about 93.7% sure I'll get the 240.

[AccoRdINlySlo]

I say don't get it if you don't know anything about it. First of all if you wanna go fast, this won't be your ticket. Just to make that thing move, gotta drop a SR20 or a BIG ass turbo to the stock motor just to make it go. My buddy has a 240. It was slow even though he had a lot of mods,but wasn't fast as the SR20 motor he put in. Once that was swap in, it was a night and day difference. But it's your car, get it if you like but don't get it if you wanna be fast and don't know nothing about it.

[ActiveAero]

Looks like they come with a 2.4liter DOHC pushing around 155hp. Here's a link to one guys site. http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~asad/240sx.html

He is running mid 15's with basic mods on the stock engine. Not too bad if you ask me.

[SweetLikeCandy]

I want it b/c I like it. True, I don't know much about that car, that's why I want to learn. I was afraid that sense it had all the features that I liked and was just what I've always wanted in a car (body) that I wouldn't be able to do anything with it. So I wouldn't be getting the 240 to be fast, I have to learn the car first the speed will come later.
I like this car
I want this car
I'm getting this car!

WISH ME LUCK!!!! :shock:

[WiggiE]

Okay, you talked about not doing cars that no one does. Then you say I won't do a Honda cuz everyone does them. But now you are talking about getting a 240. Do you have any clue of how many people are moding 240's right now????

[Matt Harris]

With a little effort, a couple of bucks, and the right connections you can throw a turbo onto that old truck motor. :) The bottom end is solid. You can easily run mid-13's. Well, a person with a respectable amount of car knowledge could at least. :roll:

[WiggiE]

I need advise, lots of advise.

Two words: SAVE and LEARN

Good stuff doesn't come cheap, and while you are saving you will have plenty of time to learn.

Just dont' jump into the car and think, I have to have something for it. That is when you will fuck it up.

[SweetLikeCandy]

To show how little I know about the car, I had no idea that the 240 was a popular car to mod. I don't want to sit on my ass learning about the car when I don't have it. If I don't get it a.s.a.p. I probably won't be able to. The 240sx came to me by chance.

I would perfer to learn by driving. Not by looking it up on the net. Learning by experience is so much better than reading about it in a book. Anything that you guys could help me with will be appreciated, but you can't teach me to drive by telling me about it. I must be shown. :wink:

[Adam]

Learning by experience is so much better than reading about it in a book. Anything that you guys could help me with will be appreciated, but you can't teach me to drive by telling me about it. I must be shown. :wink:

I've learned more from reading than I've ever done...

I've never experienced the proportional increasing gravity of the singularity of a black hole but, I know a great deal about it.

You don't have to experience something to know a great deal about it. I've never programmed in a *nix enviroment but, I know *nix security theory. I've never been a water molecule but, I can tell you a decent amount about metorligcal activities...

Experience is one thing but, if you don't "learn" the fundementals no amount of experience will benifit you. Practicing bad habits is simply re-enforcment of bad skills...

[Jess]

Your new bible:

This should have the answers to 999.99% of questions you could ever possibly ask about your car...that is once you figure out what it is exactly (S13,S14), SOHC or DOHC

http://www.240sx.org

[SweetLikeCandy]

:shock: well.. :shock: I was a water mole once.

True in what you're saying Adam, but this is a chance of a life time for me. Something like this will never happen to me again.

I like watching TANK GIRL, it's funny.

:beer:

[SweetLikeCandy]

Your new bible:

This should have the answers to 999.99% of questions you could ever possibly ask about your car...that is once you figure out what it is exactly (S13,S14), SOHC or DOHC

http://www.240sx.org

Thanks Jess, I took a look at their site the other day when you mentioned it. Their disscution board is much like this one.

[Adam]

:shock: well.. :shock: I was a water mole once.

True in what you're saying Adam, but this is a chance of a life time for me. Something like this will never happen to me again.

I like watching TANK GIRL, it's funny.

:beer:

Congratulations... I've just decided you are completely incapable of carrying on a normal conversation....

I feel dumber after reading your post....


http://www.forumpix.com/content/notfunny/images/thefunny.jpg

[Frosty_DUB]

DO NOT GET THE 240. they are total pieces of crap. I have 5 freinds with them and they break, like all the time. Seriously, it will break on you the day you get it. They are worse than dsm and rx7's.

I was gonna get one, but they are peices of shit. :roll:

[Jess]

I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast

You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

NO!

Im planning on getting a 240. Honda reliability is just too predictable :D

[ActiveAero]

I'm going to have to chime in and say that experience is way more valuable when it comes to cars than book knowledge. As of right now I have more book knowledge than hands on experience but let me tell you the few engines I have helped tear down have taught me alot more than anything I've read. To be successful you have to have both I agree. Think of it this way though. Lets say you are looking into an engine swap. You only have two choices. The first guy has actually pulled and swapped 50 engines successfully. The second guy has read how to do it 50 times but has never popped a hood. Maybe I'm weird but I wouldn't let guy number 2 touch my car.

[A418t81]

Guy number 2 has to learn also......thats why he never says that he's never done it before......much like medical interns :devil:

[1.8t]

You should pay attention to what Brock said Greyson since apparently you feel you have enough knowledge to swap an engine :roll:

[A418t81]

No, you just go around in your ignorant bliss and I'll learn how to do everything....oh wait, that already happens......

[Matt Harris]

You should pay attention to what Brock said Greyson since apparently you feel you have enough knowledge to swap an engine :roll:

Michael, that didn't make any sense. Greyson wasn't disagreeing with Brock at all. Where did you get that from his post?

Exactly how much have you already had to drink tonight? :P

[WiggiE]

I would perfer to learn by driving. Not by looking it up on the net.

You already showed us that with your last car.

Anything that you guys could help me with will be appreciated, but you can't teach me to drive by telling me about it. I must be shown. :wink:

So basically you want us to spoon feed you huh?? I for one will not. If you have a question to ask I'll be sure to answer it to the best of my knowledge. For future reference, do not come on here asking what do I do with my 240. You know what I'll say? "Run it into a brick wall." Just a piece of advice.

[AccoRdINlySlo]

Well let me first all say again only get the car only if you want it and not because everyone else is saying not to or so. To be honest, if you plan on mod'in it and all, try to do some reserch on it because messing with a 240 isn't easy and cheap. But if you want to just to drive, its all good there!!
Also Frosty just b/c your friends didn't have any luck with their doesn't mean everyone has "their" problems. I'll admit my boy with his SR20 240 did have some problems but once it was fixed, it was a beast on the streets. Anyways guys let her get the car if she really wants it. Anyone can drive a car even though they don't know nothing about it, it's just driving. From what I've been reading 'Sweetlikecandy' GO FOR IT!!!! :D

[1.8t]

You should pay attention to what Brock said Greyson since apparently you feel you have enough knowledge to swap an engine :roll:

Michael, that didn't make any sense. Greyson wasn't disagreeing with Brock at all. Where did you get that from his post?

Exactly how much have you already had to drink tonight? :P

This came from a discussion Greyson and I had previous to posting on the board. So that is why it doesn't make since to you. And no greyson, you don't have the mechanical will power.......you give up to easy when problems arise to even come close to performing an engine swap(when installing the turbotimer, you said the steering coloumn couldn't be gotten off. You gave up, I got it off....like always;)). I would LOVE to watch you bumble around stupidly spouting off how you know what your doing when you don't have a damn clue. However, continue to say you know what your doing...maybe one day people will believe your little act.

[A418t81]

Actually, the damn VW engineers made your trim a PITA that took over an hour to get off when mine takes 2 seconds, literally...I was just tired of screwing with your car when I still had mine to do.

I never said that I knew how to swap a motor.....only that guy #2 has to learn sometime and that I'd like to try it ( with the help of others who DO know).

So sit at your computer for 30 min trying to think of something witty to say to get the last word in, either way, I'm done with you and this thread.

Back to the topic.......

[1.8t]

So sit at your computer for 30 min trying to think of something witty to say to get the last word in, either way, I'm done with you and this thread.



you just contradicted yourself

[WiggiE]

How cute. Brotherly love. :?

[ActiveAero]

So sit at your computer for 30 min trying to think of something witty to say to get the last word in, either way, I'm done with you and this thread.



you just contradicted yourself

LOL....owned!

[SweetLikeCandy]

Wow! I've missed a lot in the few days that I've been gone. :lol:

All I've heard is everyone telling me not to get the car, calling me stupid, or just being rude to someone else on this thread. I was told to not speak of what I was unsure of and to ask when I did not know. Why tell me to sit back and learn if you are unwilling to teach me?

Thank you Accordinlyslo.... Someone finely took the time to understand my post before trying to make someone else feel like less of a person for wanting something that they have never experienced before.

For those of you who don't want to or are unable to comprehend what I have been saying all along.....

Use the advise that you give. I don't really give a shit about who knows what about what kind of car. Advise is nice, but don't act like you're better than me just because you drive a honda and know how to take out a motor. Wow, you're so much more manly now that you've lived 20 some odd years and have experienced more than I have had the chance to.

I'm trying to come up in life and in experience, stop trying to hold someone else down.

[WiggiE]

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! I haven't read a post that funny in a while. :lol:

[jdmsol]

for those of you who know sam collier, he's got a 95 240 that he turbocharged about nine months ago. currently he is running mid to high twelves...never any problems. he did all the work at his shop and now he is working at a shop in b'ham and told me that he would like some more project cars. just a thought for anyone who is interested.

[Matt Harris]

for those of you who know sam collier, he's got a 95 240 that he turbocharged about nine months ago. currently he is running mid to high twelves...never any problems. he did all the work at his shop and now he is working at a shop in b'ham and told me that he would like some more project cars. just a thought for anyone who is interested.

They have a project volvo that should be pretty impressive when finished. :)

[CPMaverick]

currently he is running mid to high twelves...never any problems.

Is this coming from him? Because last time I talked to him he wasn't running mid to high twelves. I think he said his best time was a 13.0. He isn't a real drag race type of guy though, doesn't go to the track often. I'm not saying the car isn't capable of mid twelves, but don't say it if it hasn't run it.

[jdmsol]

YEAH....the best i have ever seen him run was like a 13.1, but apparently it's now a little faster. your right, sam isn't that big of a drag guy, more autoX, he does real well with that.

[Felix]

He hasn't run any 12s yet, and from what he told me last time at the track his best is still a 13.3.

[A418t81]

He hasn't run any 12s yet, and from what he told me last time at the track his best is still a 13.3.


Yep.....and I've never heard him tell anybody that he ran 12's. Either way, low 13's on a junker $1,000 turbo setup is very nice bang for the buck.

[jdmsol]

......just telling what i was told. either way you are exactly right, not bad for under a grand.

[Felix]

From him: 13.5 @ 105

[Frosty_DUB]

are you gonna take out the springs on the 240 too?

hope so! :lol:

[SweetLikeCandy]

are you gonna take out the springs on the 240 too?

hope so! :lol:

Even though I know that you guys would love to see that :roll: I would have to say no. I've opened a savings account for the 240 and everything, so hopfully I can find it in myself to do these mods right.

I drove another 240sx the other day (Monday) and it was alright, but not in as good of condition as the black 240. It does have a new motor in it though. If I can save up enough money to do the swap, I guess it won't have much to compare with though.

My only problem is that I have to wait (some time before xmas) for the black 240. I could get the white 240 in a matter of weeks (this is the worse of the 2) What should I do?

[grizoove]

First off you need a plan!!! I cant overstate that enough. If you just want a shell and are going to do a transplant than get the one that doesn't run as well, but if not, you might want to think about the one with the better engine, since you would be keeping it. What are the price differences in of the two cars?

[Frosty_DUB]

None of us are gonna help with a swap, who are you getting to do it and what engine? No one around here can do an sr swap.

CAN YOU EVEN DRIVE A RWD car? I doubt it. WHy do you need a swap in the first place? Have you even driven a fast car before?

If you can shell out big bucks to get the swap, you will wreck it because you cant drive a powerful rwd car.

Im serious.

[WiggiE]

You said you wanted to learn to work on cars with this 240. Well, good luck. Nissan's are PITAS to work on! You really should get another FF (front wheel drive) car.

I know of a 2 people that could do the swap for you. The first doesn't live anywhere close to here anymore. The second won't do it. And if you think you are going to take it to a hybrid shop and get it done. HAHAHHAHAA Can you say lots of money?? Plus, good luck with them doing a good job.

I'm being serious when I say this. You need to find another car to fix up. The 240 is not an easy car to do.

[jdmsol]

i say do what makes you the happiest. sure, other peoples opinions are nice and all, but if the 240 will make you happy, then i say fuck what others think and do what you gotta do! you will be able to find people to help, maybe none on this board, but if you search enough the right people will come along in time.

[Felix]

you will be able to find people to help, maybe none on this board, but if you search enough the right people will come along in time.


Finding some people willing to help may not be that hard, but finding people that are willing to help and know the difference between their ass hole & a rod bearing may prove to be a challenge.

[jdmsol]

i would say that most know the difference, but who wants to be like a rod bearing? everyone wants to be an asshole!

[WiggiE]

i would say that most know the difference

I hope your joking! :shock:

[linuxman51]

You guys are all pretty sad... If you like the 240sx, get it. Worry about the performance later. I've been down the whole "It'll never work, you can't turbo that engine, blah blah blah". Bullshit. Cummunist partyline bullshit.
You can learn a lot from reading, I learned everything I *theoretically* needed to know about my project before I started it, however, books can't replace experience, and I'm proud to be able to say I have both. I've helped Sam with his 240sx (thats been turbo'ed for about 70,000 miles now) that runs 13.6's all night long (in hot weather), He helped me with my Volvo. I can't even count the number of times people told me that what I wanted to do wouldn't work ("You can't turbo charge an engine with that high compression.. you need something like 7.0:1... It'll never work"). Ignorance, thats all it is ignorance. Nissan's are not pieces of shit to work on, I've looked under the hood of many a honda, and I'd rather dive into the engine bay of a 240 than a civic.. (at least the 240 was designed with some sort of sembalance of sportiness). As for reliablility, that same turbo 240sx (I think he's got well over 150k on the clock right now) has the original factory suspension, tranny, rear end, etc (the factory clutch finally let go after about 40k of boosted life).

Thats not to say Sam wants it that way :) I'm sure if he had his druthers, it'd be all nice and lowered and well handled, but hey, it's lasted this long. Routine maintenence and common sense will go a long way towards a long life for your car.

To finish this little musing up (no rants, I'm too sloshed for rants :) ) I myself have been guilty of missing the occasional oil change, etc in the past (distant past.... :oops: ), unfortunatly my car hasn't forgotten no matter how much 20w50 I pour down the hole :) (no, it doesn't use oil, its far worse than that.. not a bearing problem either).
Just go with whatever you feel is right, and sort the rest out later.

[1 Bad 68]

I know of a 2 people that could do the swap for you. The first doesn't live anywhere close to here anymore. The second won't do it.


I'm sure as hell not touching another nissan in my life. I made $2300 profit on the one that I sold, and it was almost not worth it!!!

[AU RSX-S]

I know of a 2 people that could do the swap for you. The first doesn't live anywhere close to here anymore. The second won't do it.


I'm sure as hell not touching another nissan in my life. I made $2300 profit on the one that I sold, and it was almost not worth it!!!

Pussy! :wink:

[jdmsol]

i would say that most know the difference

I hope your joking! :shock:


you think? of course. :D

[Adam]

The desire to close this thread is growing within me :D

[SweetLikeCandy]

I have a new interest in a car that I drove last night.....

1993 mazda mx-6, 5 speed and all the bare necessities (sunroof, etc..)
I loved it! I'll write more in a minute, but the 240 is now 2nd choice.

[Frosty_DUB]

sounds like a winner.

[SpeedGyrl]

I would go with the MX-6. I used to have one and loved it better than anything else I have had. If I could have gotten one of those I would have, but it was too old of a car.

[linuxman51]

mx-6... bah. child's toy :)
I've cooked more than my fair share of those (in my slower cars) You'd fair better with a sohc 240sx.. at least it'd be rear drive :)

AAAActually, if you want a car that no one mods, but has great handling characteristics, a fairly balanced weight ratio, safe, and cheap to make go fast, get a volvo... they've got all those "creature comforts" you desire, and you could do all kinds of nasty things to it for under $2k (ask me how I know :twisted: )

[Jess]

ewww. volvo. never trust a guy that recompiles his own kernel. sorry, nerd joke. Id say go with the 240. Swaps are not as easy as hondas. Id suggest one with a DOHC, you could always run light boost later on

[WiggiE]

sounds like a winner.

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[Frosty_DUB]

Dammit you people dont understand. :?

Dont FUCKING RICE OUT A DAMN 240. DONT FUCKING GET ONE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU GIVE US A BAD NAME. NOONE LIKES YOU.

GO AWAY.

[WiggiE]

DONT FUCKING RICE OUT A DAMN 240. DONT FUCKING GET ONE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU GIVE US A BAD NAME.

Well, that pretty much sums it up. :| :|

[Adam]

ewww. volvo. never trust a guy that recompiles his own kernel. sorry, nerd joke.later on

BTW... If you need the newest one you can download it from http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/patch-2.4.19.gz


Latest Stable version is 2.4.19

[SweetLikeCandy]

I don't give a fuck who likes me. Point blank. You don't? Come suck on my left breast. Fuck you.

I just called the dealer and they sold the mx-6 today around lunch time. I just sold almost everything I owned (not much) to have the money for that car, and now it and my shit are all gone.

As I said earlier, the 240 is my next bet. I'm not going to try to make this car look like rice, but what does it matter to you? It's my car. You guys give yourself a bad name. No one ever even takes me seriously so how would I alone be able to bring a whole car club down? I don't, so stop pointing your finger at me every time someone says something negative about you.

Thanks to all of you who are trying to help by giving your advise and such. That one positive post out of every 20 really does make listening to the hater bullshit easier.

Oh, and yes I have driven a 240 with rwd before. I liked it, I was good at it , but I need to learn the car better before I start the mod process. Anyone have anymore shit they feel like saying? I'm sure you do..pm me and we can talk shit all day if it makes you feel better.

[Jess]

I think yall have given Jesse a hard enough time already. She says she wants to learn about cars and shit, so just give her a chance. If she DOES rice out her next car, then it would be fair to rag on her. hell, i'll join in at that point. :D I quit being mean to girls in like the 4th grade. Her car will undoubtedly not be a build SR20DET running 30psi on the cover of SCC, but if given the right guidance it could shape up to be something respectable. Play nice childrens.

[Frosty_DUB]

Why do you think people will respect you when you take the springs off your car. Thats beyond stupid.

[WiggiE]

You will not get respect until you earn it.

[jdmsol]

I quit being mean to girls in like the 4th grade. Play nice childrens.

everybody makes mistakes....some are just bigger than others. please, give it a rest already.

[SweetLikeCandy]

I'm guessing that you guys didn't read the history about how riding with no springs came to be. Oh, well I'm not typing it again. I have nothing to prove. If you want to be close minded and childish, that's cool, and I'm glad that you have such a good time joking on me, but this shit is getting old.

As stated above, I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else. I am who I am and I can't change the past (loss of springs,) I'm trying to learn from my mistakes, and I'm not changing who I am or what I like or anything else for anyone. Sorry that I won't change to better please you.

Thanks Jess for being mature in this matter, and if I do something stupid to the 240, you have more than the privelage to point and laugh. :wink:

[Adam]

If you want to be close minded and childish, that's cool, and I'm glad that you have such a good time joking on me, but this shit is getting old.


I'm pretty closed minded and this thread is too :D