AWD dyno?

[SK VR4]

Where are the closest AWD dynos? Or anyone with dynopacks?

Im gonna need to hop on one pretty soon and mess with my car, as well as maybe do some tests on some diff turbo combinations im thinking about.

Also, FWIW it needs to have 600+hp capacity. Thanks.


Sean

[Jess]

I know where one is, but you cant use it

[SK VR4]

ok, fine.

correction:


rentable AWD dynos within 200miles. I need to be able to use it.

[Anderson]

Drive up to APR and see if they will let you use theirs. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P

[AadosX]

They had one in Birmingham, I believe at next level. But even if they did, I think they got rid of it, or they are soon... not making enough money. I'm sure there are a few in ATL... call around. You can start by calling Batlground Engineering, I'm sure they'll know of who has one, if they don't. www.batlground.com There are a lot of good shops, well at least 3-5, in ATL.

[SK VR4]

whos APR, and where are they?

Isnt Batlground a supra tuner? Aka 2WD. I thought so, but ill call em on monday.

I was -> <- this close to getting dynopacks at my shop in daytona, i had it all set up with the lease-to-own and everything, but then i decided to transfer. I liked that because 1) there were TONS of awd cars there:

DSMs who didnt want to put in a spool
Porsches
Subarus
EVOs
Lambos (it was daytona beach, guys)
3000s/Stealths
Skyline(s)
Audis
etc

and with the dynopacks, i had the software and support for 2WD dynoing, too. Sucks, because i was just taking over the lease from a "local" shop, and it came with ALL KINDS of extra shit. I dont know why more people dont just purchase the 4WD add on to their dynopacks, and why more people dont use them more in general, because a BIG percentage of 'drivetrain' is lost in the tires, and also you lose all the rotational mass of the tires and wheels and it's safer. I would have made a killing, because there was only a land and sea 2wd dyno and one mustang dyno in town (daytona beach) and they suck, as the closest place to dyno was 4 hrs away, at a subiie dealer and was SO EXPENSIVE. One place in miami had a 4wd dynojet, but the guys werent very competant nor was the machinery new at all.

arg, im ranting again, but im pissed more people dont have dynos. well i have a while before i need the dyno, but i want to go check out the facilities beforehand, so if you can get me some numbers, addresses, etc etc id be much obliged. I have no clue about the geography here, so assume that :)

Sean

[SK VR4]

PS:

sweet, batlground has apexi IC cores! Not that i need one, but hey, ive been looking for just a big core for a while.

[Matt Harris]

whos APR, and where are they?



That would be me. Don't bother, you can't use it. We don't rent time. And I think you mean 'dynapack'.

[xamraci]

whos APR, and where are they?



That would be me. Don't bother, you can't use it. We don't rent time. And I think you mean 'dynapack'.


MATT be dee AP-AAARE guy...

btw matt...are you going to find time to come to a meet soon? I want to take some pictures of your S and Mikes...if you can accomidate that request...that would be SUPERB! 8)

[Matt Harris]

Tuesday nights are generally pretty busy for me...Well almost every night is busy actually. I'll try to make it one of these days, but no promises on a timeframe.

[xamraci]

Tuesday nights are generally pretty busy for me...Well almost every night is busy actually. I'll try to make it one of these days, but no promises on a timeframe.

alright....I will just bring my camera on tuesdays...

[ActiveAero]

whos APR, and where are they?



You ask this but want to question what kind of cars Matt has tuned.......

I think your friend Billy from the Viper thread needs to bring another word to class...I-G-N-O-R-A-N-T.

[SK VR4]

^^ youre a bit obsessive man. chill out dude, im not here to steal your cookies.

well what is APR? never heard of it. i dont think i ever _questioned_ what kinda cars he tuned, he told me what he tuned... which is awesome for him. if im wrong, i appoligize and you dont need to point it out, im over it.

also how was i supposd to know X person is Y company?? really, there is nothing leading me to have any clue of that.

is it JUST you? or is it a big company, what? what do they do? i just wanna know.

matt: Im glad you turned down a bunch of business because of one or two posts on a forum. wow, thats some strange business practice. You know im a big dog in the 3000GT world and i could have made you $XXXX with dyno days from my regional comapdres? Damn, i was gonna have fun with having an AWD dyno in town, oh well. :?

yeah, sorry, dynapack. i type too fast. i gues si got confused with typing dynojet and dynapack too much today (ive been on several dyno threads today).

[AadosX]

God you're a sarcastic jackass. I've noticed that from day one but have withheld myself from personal attacks.

The way you say "im not here to steal your cookies." It honestly looks like you're TRYING to piss people off and get in a fight, but then you use smilies and say things like "oh well im over it."

I don't hate how much you like your car or how much you know, I really don't care... I just hate you, your attitude, your way of life, everything about you. Who knows if you're like this in person or what, but damn... I want to slit your throat and play in your blood.

[SK VR4]

when was i being sarcastic?

active aero (who never owned a car with that) attacked me personally. i never did that to him or anyone else on here.

you, sir, also just threatened me with slitting my throat. I doube dog dare you to try that. Ill be out there on tuesday. Bring your knife, ill be waiting.

this thread was about dynoing, not about me or how much of a jackass i am, quit following me aorund and turning what could otherwise be a good thread intoa flame fast.

Also, again, the who threat thing, you might wanna take that back and tone it down a little. just a suggestion.


Sean

[AadosX]

I meant everything that I said except for actually killing you, I'm a mild tempered man. But you are extremely sarcastic, TOO sarcastic, and it's very annoying... how are you NOT sarcastic? READ your posts... and read your damn signature for one. I posted that here because I haven't seen a single thread you've participated in so far in which you didn't say some sarcastic comment that pissed me off... such as the cookie one.

[SK VR4]

my sig in a mock of another guy's on here, who did it first.

you wont reply to my IMs. whats your cell #? PM me if you want.

[Jess]

well what is APR? .

http://www.goapr.com/

[SK VR4]

i found it a few min's ago, im gonna give em a call or stop by on monday. thanks for the link, though, jess.

[AadosX]

Ok, it's really all simple, but no one seems to be able to see it....

You came in here and instantly pissed most of us off. Whenever you go somewhere new, you should always get to know everyone first, and hold your tongue in arguments (as hard as it may be). Once you've gained everyones RESPECT, you can start to argue without everyone hating you. Hell, pretty much everyone on forums has this passion for arguing, maybe it's why we're here. We all argue, but we don't hate eachother... it's because of RESPECT. As much as some people like ActiveAero piss me off, I still respect them and easily get over an confrontation. What you need to do is just lay off for a while, hold your tongue, and get to know everyone in a more mild manner. Then, later on, you may express your point. :P

That is the most realistic solution to this entire problem. The other solutions include:

1) We ask you to leave and you respect that request.
2) You just go away.
3) We all manage to just ignore what you say, and eventually it will work out somehow. This could have fixed the problem from the beginning, but like I said, pretty much all of us enjoy arguing as much as you do, so it's partially everyones fault.

Please take these words to heart. I learned a while ago that arguing is pointless, I used to LOVE it, but lately have managed to stay out of most things. I can easily see us all friends, but not at this rate.

I'm out.

[Matt Harris]

^^
matt: Im glad you turned down a bunch of business because of one or two posts on a forum. wow, thats some strange business practice. You know im a big dog in the 3000GT world and i could have made you $XXXX with dyno days from my regional comapdres? Damn, i was gonna have fun with having an AWD dyno in town, oh well. :?



It has nothing to do with you. It's company policy. We don't have the time or resources to deal with that type of business. We're not an open tuning shop and are focused on our market.

[AadosX]

Oh yeah and one more thing, you say a lot but you don't show it. That will never get you anywhere in life, so just stop.

If you want us to think your car is fast, then show us. If you want us to think you know a lot about cars, then prove it. Otherwise, stop talking about your car being fast, and stop talking about how much you know.

[A418t81]

matt: Im glad you turned down a bunch of business because of one or two posts on a forum. wow, thats some strange business practice. You know im a big dog in the 3000GT world and i could have made you $XXXX with dyno days from my regional comapdres? Damn, i was gonna have fun with having an AWD dyno in town, oh well. :?

yeah, sorry, dynapack. i type too fast. i gues si got confused with typing dynojet and dynapack too much today (ive been on several dyno threads today).


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The APR shop here in AU is not a speed shop. Its the North American research center and headquarters of APR. I promise you they don't give a rats ass about you and your compadres. If you were ever allowed into that part of the building, you'd see that the dyno is CONSTANTLY in use and never sees anything but VAG products.

[Jess]

the dyno is CONSTANTLY in use and never sees anything but VAG products.

what kind of whp does a tampon put down?

[PrimeredHatch]

LOL

BTW Jess, I am the queen of france.

[xamraci]

We need to contribute tot he conversation fellas!

:lol:

[SK VR4]

ok, so APR doesnt tune. damn.

but the way matt said it ealier sounded to me like he ws denying my request to use HIS dyno.

Im pretty sure matt, with a degree in sports medicine, isnt the head (maybe a junior engineer ;) ) of APR, so his reply kinda stuck to me in a bad way. Im sorry, i hope this doesnt sound offensive, i just pretty much copied the website ;)

Its cool if they dont do tuning or otherwise. BUT if you guys knew this then why did someone say :maybe APR will let you use theirs" or something to that effect? To try to rile me up? Or maybe you just didnt know what they do either. Either way it was a silly move.

I guess i gotta go find someone who has a 4wd dyno.. no wait..


that was the entire fucking reason behind this thread, that you drama queens decided was ok to turn into another "SK is an assfucker" thread. Thats LAME.

Hey, if you guys wanna take a field trip to my little storage unit and see my car and all the glory of whats left of my shop, i bet youll get the drift that i know wtf im doing.

My car in peices is damn impressive if you ask me. But thats me.


Sean

[ActiveAero]

active aero (who never owned a car with that) attacked me personally. i never did that to him or anyone else on here.

Sean

Attacked you personally? :roll:


Good job assuming what APR was and dissapproving of their business practices. Again you show how much of a concieted moron you are by thinking you could have some sort of influence over APR.

I urge you to stop by APR with your current attitude. You could tell them that your car traps 800mph and that you have 10,000 VR-4's ready to dyno with them. Their response would probably be to yawn, not noticing that you were there in the first place, and then going back to something they actually care about.

[SK VR4]

active aero (who never owned a car with that) attacked me personally. i never did that to him or anyone else on here.

Sean

Attacked you personally? :roll:


Good job assuming what APR was and dissapproving of their business practices. Again you show how much of a concieted moron you are by thinking you could have some sort of influence over APR.

I urge you to stop by APR with your current attitude. You could tell them that your car traps 800mph and that you have 10,000 VR-4's ready to dyno with them. Their response would probably be to yawn, not noticing that you were there in the first place, and then going back to something they actually care about.


you DID attack me. you called me a doucghebag, loser, liar, w/e else you said. dont deny that, go find you own posts man.

PLUS i never ever said APR wasnt good. ever. i said that doing what i thought he was (response to his rply) was odd business practice. read more carefully.

mY car does trap 800MPH, so HA bitch.

you need to chill, for real. Thats like the 900th time ive said that, Go get drunk, stoned, laid, whatever you need to be nicer. You call me a dumbass and youre taking the time to personally cut me down. NICE JOB.

go sit in your integra and make bumble bee sounds while shifting really hard and making blow off valve sounds, that should thrill the fuck out of you. i can get nastier if you want :x

[SK VR4]

also, you speak for APR like you own it.

i think you just have small penis syndrom because i have a VR4 and you never did. Many outsiders agree. None of the biased kids on, though. Nope, theyll defend your Type R to the death. Have fun with your 95 ft/lb or torque.

[AadosX]

I'd rather have 131 ft/lbs (can't you read?) of torque from a working car than whatever you supposidly make out of your car that is in peices.

[WiggiE]

you need to chill, for real. Thats like the 900th time ive said that, Go get drunk, stoned, laid, whatever you need to be nicer.

You came on OUR board, YOU need to chill. If you don't like the way we treat you, go eat a dick or take a golden shower with your asspounding VR-4 buddies.

[Jess]

ok, so APR doesnt tune. damn.

but the way matt said it ealier sounded to me like he ws denying my request to use HIS dyno.


APR DOES tune, just not anything other than VW/AUDI/PORSCHE He wasnt denying you personally the use of the dyno. They dont let ANYONE (as far as I know or have ever heard of) use the dyno, and thats not up to debate. If it was, we'd beg and plead once in a while, but its futile.

[Matt Harris]

ok, so APR doesnt tune. damn.

but the way matt said it ealier sounded to me like he ws denying my request to use HIS dyno.

Im pretty sure matt, with a degree in sports medicine, isnt the head (maybe a junior engineer ;) ) of APR, so his reply kinda stuck to me in a bad way. Im sorry, i hope this doesnt sound offensive, i just pretty much copied the website ;)



That is only one of my degrees, actually. I have several. And i'm not an Engineer, i'm an Industrial Designer. And I am in charge of the dyno facility. So, theoretically if I wanted to waste one of my weekends to allow you access to dyno your car, I could. But that's not going to happen.

[SK VR4]

ok.

[SK VR4]

That is only one of my degrees, actually. I have several. And i'm not an Engineer, i'm an Industrial Designer. And I am in charge of the dyno facility. So, theoretically if I wanted to waste one of my weekends to allow you access to dyno your car, I could. But that's not going to happen.

http://www.goapr.com/images/bios/matt.jpg





im not insulting you. I was reading that. Sorry, not engineer, i meant designer. It sounds like a good company, but now that its not an option, id like to move the fuck on.


ANY AWD DYNOS IN THE GENERAL AREA I CAN GO TUNE AT???

[Matt Harris]

That profile is outdated by several years.

And the answer to your question is no.

[SK VR4]

so now every single dyno business is the sotuheast is gonna tuen me away because of a little cockfight on aspeed, haha. ok, that would be SAD.

so, matt, you own every single dyno in alabama and georgia? :shock:

[Matt Harris]

Tha answer to this question:

ANY AWD DYNOS IN THE GENERAL AREA I CAN GO TUNE AT???

is NO... Can you not even comprehend what you type? There may be a 4WD dyno within 4 hours of here that you can use, but there is not one in 'the general area'.

Holy crap you are stupid. This has nothing to do with me and you, it was a simple answer to your question. I don't know why anyone on here would even bother talking to you since you are clearly unable to fully comprehend the english language.

[Jess]

so now every single dyno business is the sotuheast is gonna tuen me away because of a little cockfight on aspeed, haha. ok, that would be SAD.

Paranoid a bit maybe?

[A418t81]

:lol:

Sk, you are truly a character. I think you are going to have a hard time fitting in around AU. Nobody likes a loudmouth....especially a juvenille, ignorant, delusional, materialistic one.

Maybe you should go back down to Fla where you were master of all that is automotive wizardry (but still never managed to learn that ITR's came to the states and Preludes had larger than 1.6L motors). I am by no means a honda guy, yet I could blow away your self proclaimed endless knowledge base in my sleep.

[SK VR4]

:lol:

Sk, you are truly a character. I think you are going to have a hard time fitting in around AU. Nobody likes a loudmouth....especially a juvenille, ignorant, delusional, materialistic one.


I fit in fine at AU. Do you really think you know who i am based just on what i typed on the internet? Really, id like to know.


Maybe you should go back down to Fla where you were master of all that is automotive wizardry (but still never managed to learn that ITR's came to the states and Preludes had larger than 1.6L motors).

FL is 2nd to cali in imports dude. Theyve got rediculous cars there. I am like peon nothing below spit sompared to the guys in FL.

I am by no means a honda guy, yet I could blow away your self proclaimed endless knowledge base in my sleep.

Really? What are you basing this assumption on?

You talk about me like im the worst thing to come along since aids. All i did was upset the happy little matrimony of this forum and im automatically a bad person? I dont think youre getting it, lemme say it once more:

internet forum. internet. Its the internet, not real life. internet =/ real life. real life =/ internet. You have no idea who i am. at all. period. You know less than 1% about me. AAMOF, ALL you know is my forum text. That is not real. That is typing. You keep saying im this and that.. youre wrong. You dont know, you realy dont. Stop calling me this and that, its completely pointless. Stop saying im this and that, you have no clue. For all you know i could not even have a VR4. I could not even go to auburn. I could be a girl, and actually live in bulgaria. Point is: you really dont know me, so all the trash youre talking is just silly.

I dont know you can come on the net and say something like "you are stupid". Based-on stupid, useless type is not a real analyzation of someone. the name calling is childish. Stop it.

[CPMaverick]

This is a form of communication just like speaking in person. Can you get a good idea of what a person is like by just 'talking' with them on an internet forum? Maybe. Will people draw conclusions about you from what you do on the internet? Yes. Can you tell intelligence level from internet posts? Maybe. Will people make assumptions about your intelligence by what you post? Yes. And they should. It's all they know.

If two people come on the board, one is a jackass and one is not, are people gooing to say 'well the jackass might actually be cooler, it's just the internet.' Hell no!

A cocky know-it-all attitude is your worst enemy, especially when you direct it at a group of people with backgrounds that you don't know. You are only burning bridges.

[A418t81]

Exactly, for all we know, you could be making up EVERY last thing that you've said on this board. You've shown no proof, no numbers, no anything. Your only "backups" have been misinformed, though hilarious, statments. You've talked about how cool your car is, how everybody wants your supercar, and how everybody drools over it, etc. I am basing everything I say on the way that you act here. I, unlike some it seems, am the same in real life as I am on the internet. I'd say just about anything here to your face as well if you were talking the same BS.

Either way, I don't hate you at all. I don't even disklike you. Bickering is taken to a fine art in my family and it is not met with any ill content. You entertain me and this "discussion" we've been having has been very interesting as it takes my mind of of my gross anatomy test I have tomorrow (4 hr test). I like hearing about all of your accomplishments at such a young age as well. So, tell us, how was the top of Mt. Everest and is the soil on the moon really powder soft?

[AadosX]

Typing on an internet forum is the exact same as in person, unless you have some sick, odd thing going on in your mind. When you say it's not, that's just an excuse. Either that, or you just like to hide behind a keyboard and are a pussy in real life. See, most of us aren't like that.

[SK VR4]

im a douche on the internet and i guess maybe just half a douche in real life.

i dont take anything anyone says on a forum as pure truth or their real demeanor. I guess i cant expect anyone else to, but maybe i assumed so.

Im most definitely not a pussy in real life. as a matter of fact, i knew this was going to happen on the forum. Noone took their beef to me at the meet. Id rather deal with it in person. I hate the internet. Id much rather have all my comunication done face to face, but that jst isnt the way our world runs anymore.

Id like to kill the forum crap and just have all the drama saved up every week for tuesdays. I bet it will decrease significantly (and hope) ;)

So lets save the he-man keyboard warrior status and just deal with shit the real way.

[xamraci]

in all relation to this conversation about people being different in person and people being dick heads internet wise...

Brock-Comes off a bit half cocked and tempermental...however...has been very helpful with advice and suggestions when I needed them...

Scott(wiggie)-certainly a NEWB CRUSHER! I was crushed more times than grapes at an I LOVE LUCY festival...but also showed himself when it came around to knowledge, advice, and especially suggestions.

Kenny-Self Explanitory...total ass hole! He has is shining moments...but still...its kenny we are talking about here 8) (BTW KENNY, dont come kill me or anything)

Matt-wealth of knowledge...so much that I get a bit overwhelming while trying to comprehend it...

Charlie-have yet to have a conversation with you in person...however...respectively...damn...A great help when it came to shutting my mouth and actually reading the fine print when it came to the questions I was asking

Mike337, Clint, Mike, Greyson, Jess, Chappy-All of which I been to serveral meets with and could not imagine being part of this group with out that list of people being a HUGE part of it! Jess has always been there to help...and has always been appreciated...Greyson and Mike...them being brothers...kinda hard to link...Mike is just mike...very technical and analitical, smart and helpful. Greyson has always just been funny as hell to be around...and when the questions are laid up...there are certainly answers that far exceed proper and acceptable. Mike337 just a great guy to be at meets with...great car, knowledgeable and if he was down here...I know would have been diggin thru my ECU/suspension/ECT...while jess and the rest of us ripped thru it also...Chappy...HOLY HELL, could we all know a nicer person? I actually doubt...I can say thanks for actually helping me find this SITE...introducing me to this great group of people...

I just appreciate all of it...and this can only help to illustrate that I gained impressions of people in person and thru the internet...internet based...well shit...several of the people on here I have never conversed with in person...nor had the opportunity...but have a more than general idea of what kind of person they are...and who they are...

Just being complimentary again guys...Its a habbit of mine...comes with me being extremely appreciative...and threads like these just get me kinda worked up on it all...

[quattro]

Hey, what about me asshole, don't I get a pretty summary like everyone else? :wink: :P

[CPMaverick]

You don't hide behind your keyboard enough. :lol:

[SK VR4]

You don't hide behind your keyboard enough. :lol:

que?

[CPMaverick]

I was talking to dunkler :shock: :lol: That post had nothing to do with you :o

[xamraci]

Hey, what about me asshole, don't I get a pretty summary like everyone else? :wink: :P

YOU NEVER COME TO MEETS BUDDY! and You arent as good as putting me in place like the others have been... :wink:

You also had several great comments in the suspension thread I started...AGES ago...and dropped that idea in light of MORE POWER..seeing that I will just be getting adjustable shocks in the long run...once I get this bizzy BOOSTED!\

Too Everyone...I will always be thankful for any type of input that I recieved that helped me see things in a different light...whether I agreed with it or not...opening my eyes to something different always leads me to question and confront new things..

[AU RSX-S]

Hey, what about me asshole, don't I get a pretty summary like everyone else? :wink: :P

YOU NEVER COME TO MEETS BUDDY! and You arent as good as putting me in place like the others have been... :wink:

You also had several great comments in the suspension thread I started...AGES ago...and dropped that idea in light of MORE POWER..seeing that I will just be getting adjustable shocks in the long run...once I get this bizzy BOOSTED!\

Too Everyone...I will always be thankful for any type of input that I recieved that helped me see things in a different light...whether I agreed with it or not...opening my eyes to something different always leads me to question and confront new things..

How about how I got you into the Ale House and got you tipsy. Hey, I may not payed for your drinks, but I didn't let you get caught. Does that count? :wink:

[xamraci]

Dammit Cameron! Bad influence :D

It was awesome chilling with you, mike, and hazan...haha

I guess that counts for something...you are certainly a cool person to be at a bar with...if that counts for something 8)

[AU RSX-S]

Dammit Cameron! Bad influence :D

It was awesome chilling with you, mike, and hazan...haha

I guess that counts for something...you are certainly a cool person to be at a bar with...if that counts for something 8)

I promise I'm just as fun to be around when I'm not at a bar. :D

[xamraci]

Good to hear Cameron( 8) )I believe you though...certainly was nice talking with you at the bar...brought you into a better light...perhaps our little band of Aspeed freaks can go to an AUTOx event...or perhaps an SCCA event at barber or road atlanta if there is ever a time that I can get off for work...that would ROCK!