Selling the 240SX...

[AadosX]

I'm selling the silver moss 240SX and I'm trying to type up a conclusive FS thread post to use on forums. Is there anything that I left out that you can think of? What questions would you have so I can go ahead and include those things?

Hey guys, my car is for sale.

Basics:

5 Speed
150K Miles
Silver Moss Exterior (Rare color, looks incredible contrasted with dark wheels)
Black/Grey (Patterned) Cloth Interior

Details:

The wheels are stock but spray painted black. They looked great for a while but have gotten scratched up. One wheel has some curb rash on the outer lip. Open diff., no abs, 5 lug, stock spoiler.

Right now it's stock except for TEIN HE coilovers (front camber plates included) and Battle Version RUCA's for camber control in the rear. Does not have an exhaust system. Also there is no cat but has a 3" test pipe. NISMO shift knob (the skinny style) w00t! :D

Runs well and strong. Paint is in good glossy condition except for the front bumper. It's not bad but has a lot of tiny chips from rocks on the interstate. Most of the miles are interstate miles as well. Interior is basically perfect, you be the judge.

You will definitely want to get some new tires. There is no stereo or front speakers, but I can find something and intsall it if you want. Also, I can put the stock suspenion back on if you want, and reduce the price ~$1000, depending on your offer.

The engine bay has only been touched once outside of changing the oil and other common maintenance... and it was to install a CAI. The guy that owned the car before me tried but failed (I was told that the kit was missing a silicone hose connector or something), so the stock stuff is in there. I have all of the peices that he gave me for the intake, but never touched them. I also have parts of a short shifter that he gave me (OBX Brand) but never touched that. I have no idea what parts are missing for both, but I'll throw all of that in with the car.

Lastly, the car needs an alignment. It's very driveable, but pulls ever so slightly to the left. I just haven't gotten around to getting one since I installed the coilovers. I can either let you take care of that, or get one for you with your custom specs (for camber, etc.) once you are committed to purchasing the car. Personally I reccommend 1.5 deg. negative camber rear and 2.0 deg. negative camber in the front, with 0 toe all around, for a perfect daily driver/weekend warrior.

I think that's it, but if I think of anything else I'll let you guys know. E-Mail me with any questions/offers/etc.

Price:

I'm looking for $7000 OBO. I also need an S13, so trades+your cash also work.

lockejc@auburn.edu

And now for the all important pictures:

(pics will be here)

Thanks!
-John

[WiggiE]

I don't own a 240SX lol...

But thanks anyways for being a jackass for no reason. :lol:

http://www.aspeedracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2458&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

[Anderson]

Am I missing something or did you already sell this car to Tom?

[Jess]

you can leave the part out about what you recommend for an alignment, because its gay

[xamraci]

I'm selling the silver moss 240SX and I'm trying to type up a conclusive FS thread post to use on forums. Is there anything that I left out that you can think of? What questions would you have so I can go ahead and include those things?

Hey guys, my car is for sale.

Basics:

5 Speed
150K Miles
Silver Moss Exterior (Rare color, looks incredible contrasted with dark wheels)
Black/Grey (Patterned) Cloth Interior

Details:

The wheels are stock but spray painted black. They looked great for a while but have gotten scratched up. One wheel has some curb rash on the outer lip. Open diff., no abs, 5 lug, stock spoiler.

Right now it's stock except for TEIN HE coilovers (front camber plates included) and Battle Version RUCA's for camber control in the rear. Does not have an exhaust system. Also there is no cat but has a 3" test pipe. NISMO shift knob (the skinny style) w00t! :D

Runs well and strong. Paint is in good glossy condition except for the front bumper. It's not bad but has a lot of tiny chips from rocks on the interstate. Most of the miles are interstate miles as well. Interior is basically perfect, you be the judge.

You will definitely want to get some new tires. There is no stereo or front speakers, but I can find something and intsall it if you want. Also, I can put the stock suspenion back on if you want, and reduce the price ~$1000, depending on your offer.

The engine bay has only been touched once outside of changing the oil and other common maintenance... and it was to install a CAI. The guy that owned the car before me tried but failed (I was told that the kit was missing a silicone hose connector or something), so the stock stuff is in there. I have all of the peices that he gave me for the intake, but never touched them. I also have parts of a short shifter that he gave me (OBX Brand) but never touched that. I have no idea what parts are missing for both, but I'll throw all of that in with the car.

Lastly, the car needs an alignment. It's very driveable, but pulls ever so slightly to the left. I just haven't gotten around to getting one since I installed the coilovers. I can either let you take care of that, or get one for you with your custom specs (for camber, etc.) once you are committed to purchasing the car. Personally I reccommend 1.5 deg. negative camber rear and 2.0 deg. negative camber in the front, with 0 toe all around, for a perfect daily driver/weekend warrior.

I think that's it, but if I think of anything else I'll let you guys know. E-Mail me with any questions/offers/etc.

Price:

I'm looking for $7000 OBO. I also need an S13, so trades+your cash also work.

lockejc@auburn.edu

And now for the all important pictures:

(pics will be here)

Thanks!
-John

I already took pictures of the car...if you want to use some of those...

[Frosty_DUB]

Why are you selling it?

[Timbo]

I was very interested until the $7K part....what year is it anyways? I need another car to drive while the Supra is down and was only looking to spend $3K at most. If you get $7K for it I'll be suprised but good luck anyways. Does anyone else think that is a bit high or is it just me?

[xamraci]

if it had exhuast and good tires...NO, that isnt that high at all...the car is in great shape minus the front bumper...and 6k with out the suspension is rather reasonable

[AadosX]

I don't own a 240SX lol...

But thanks anyways for being a jackass for no reason. :lol:

http://www.aspeedracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2458&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

Now I own one. :wink:

[AadosX]

Why are you selling it?

Long story but now it's back in my hands to sell and so I'm doing so. I'll prolly be getting an S13 soon, and Tom want's to get either an AE86 or an S13.

[AadosX]

It's a 97,, sorry I included that in the title of the posts that it will be in. It's an SE as well just for your info. KBB is $5700 (actually only has 143k miles), new the coilovers are $1300, the RUCAs are $250. That's $7250. I realize it doesn't have exhaust and needs tires, and also needs a stereo, but in the car modding world, those are minor details. The exhaust would most likely be replaced anyways, along with the wheels/tires. And like I said I could easily slap in a stereo if anyone cared. Anyways, this post was just for 240SX enthusiasts... and they know what the car is worth. I'm not trying to cling to the drift fad TOO much, certainly not nearly as much as others are when selling their 240SX's, but I realize the popularity of the car. Right now everyone is getting above KBB on theirs, so I think my price is very very reasonable, and in the end that's what the OBO is for... For example, a 1997 Base model (4 lug, no sunroof, shitty wheels) just sold for $6000, STOCK with the same milage... and it sold with relative ease. Hell, I see guys trying to get $3500 for their 150k S13's (DOHC's that is, 1991-1993) all day long, granted they usually go for closer to $3000. Bottom line, Kouki 240SX's are rare.

[Anderson]

Yeah, but not as rare as a white rx7. You need to take that into consideration. And tell Tom there is no such thing as an AE86. Nope never heard of one. So he better get a S13, not an AE86.

[jononioo]

I could easily slap in a stereo if anyone cared. i have a sony explode cd player w/remote if you want a cheap stero system

[LT1NRG]

Good ad, I'm just not sure about the price, but that's all up to you of course. We have different views on what is considered high mileage anyways. I wouldn't expect too aweful much from a domestic at 150k. Goodluck with the sale. New car!

[quattro]

I guess there's a bit of inflation on the 240sx boards because my gf bought a clean '96 SE with LSD, sunroof, and <100k on the clock for around $5.5k about a year ago. That car looked fairly good, ran great, HAD an exhaust (a hoopty magnaflow actually) a functional stereo, and brand new tires. This wasn't some freak bargain either, it was a used car lot for crying out loud.

[CPMaverick]

Yeah, if you think all these cars are going for well over KBB, maybe they are, but only on these boards where there are rabid highschoolers and college kids drooling over drift machines. If it's KBB, then you ought to be able to find a car for that if you look hard enough, and aren't in a 'gotta have it now' mentality.

I mean, these cars aren't Honda Accords, but they aren't vipers either. They made a decent amount of 'em.

[AadosX]

I'm still not getting it though, did you guys read my post? It's worth (according to KBB + mods) $7250, and because there's no exhaust/tires I lowered it to $7000. I could easily put exhaust and some decent tires on there for ~$350... so it looks like I'm overcharging $100. When was the last time you LISTED your car for sale AT the kbb price?

[PrimeredHatch]

Have any of you checked auto trader for 97-98 s14s? Please do, and tell me the car is overpriced. Also there is a pretty big price difference in a 96 and 97 240.

[CPMaverick]

Ok, here are a few I found if you insist:

$3991, asking price at a dealership (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=170488922&dealer_id=6776050&car_year=1997&make=NISSAN&distance=300&max_price=7000&model=240SX&advcd_on=n&end_year=1997&min_price=1000&certified=n&address=36849&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1997&color=&cardist=300)

$4800, asking price individual (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=171710686&dealer_id=&car_year=1997&make=NISSAN&distance=300&max_price=7000&model=240SX&advcd_on=n&end_year=1997&min_price=1000&certified=n&address=36849&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1997&color=&cardist=90)

82,000 miles, $2800 (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=170949346&dealer_id=55267071&car_year=1997&make=NISSAN&distance=any&max_price=7000&model=240SX&advcd_on=n&end_year=1998&min_price=1000&certified=n&address=36849&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1997&color=&cardist=554)

Now sorry 'cause this probably makes me look like a jackass, but you asked. ;)

Last time I asked KBB for a car was the last time I sold one. Maybe you have $1500 'worth' of mods, but if yo can get money back on mods, especially retail, you are a lucky man.

And plus, the car isn't even complete. I'm not gonna pay KBB for a car that has parts missing, but that's just me.

[surfstang]

If you mod a car then sell it, you have to be prepared to eat the cost of the mods to some extent. Putting it to stock and selling the mods would probably make the most $$ unless you sell it to another enthusiast who would mod it anyway.

[xamraci]

he has every intention of selling the car to an enthusiast...

[PrimeredHatch]

To CP, all three of those are autos. Plus the first two don't even list mileage, and the last one actually wants 5,200 if you read the add. Also i don't think the last one is an SE, regardless of what the add says, by looking at the car.

[AadosX]

^^What he said, and no the last one is not an SE. I'm tempted to call and get the milage on the others but I don't really care enough.

[jononioo]

If you mod a car then sell it, you have to be prepared to eat the cost of the mods to some extent. thats so true. mods don't seem to have a high re-sell value.

If i were you, i would take those bad ass tein coilovers off your car and sell them seperatly b/c your not going to get nearly as much if you sell them with the car.

but in all honesty, you may be able to sell it for 7k. ya know what they say... "a sucker is born everyday" !

[1 Bad 68]

"Theres an ass for every seat" :lol:

Gooood Luck!!

[AadosX]

You guys are acting like I don't know about reselling aftermarket parts... you're forgetting the other 240 I sold lol...

[1 Bad 68]

And you are forgetting the 20+ modded cars and bikes I've sold in the past 3 years!

Your experience is nothing compared to a majority of the people posting here. That fact that you added the mods up to full price on top of KBB proves this.

[AadosX]

Once again, the point you guys are missing... pay much attention to those little three letters

O
B
O

I'm not even expecting a full 7k! omgomgomgomg

And you might be surprised to see what I got for my last car. Already people on the boards are saying that 7k is a really good price... but that means nothing. We'll see when it sells.

[Inspector]

7000!! :shock: some idiot on another forum might buy it, hope you get lucky, but an "enthusiast" would never spend that much for a car he could get for much less. that being said, i liked the car and had fun in it when i drove it (eventhough its slow)...hope it sells!

[Frosty_DUB]

An enthusiast wont pay a high price for anything. A ricer kid will though.


As i said before, im buying a clean 91 s13 for 1k.

[WiggiE]

As i said before, im buying a clean 91 s13 for 1k.
Clit, don't be a dumbass d00d.

[CPMaverick]

You are so right, I would much prefer a clean stock car, even with high milage, to anything that's modded. Especially if its not ven complete. You just never know who's been doing the work.

But the ricers out there will probably eat that shit up, if so, let the highest bidder win. :lol:

[Frosty_DUB]

As i said before, im buying a clean 91 s13 for 1k.
Clit, don't be a dumbass d00d.

Im going to have 2 cars. Why would i be a dumbass?

[AadosX]

You are so right, I would much prefer a clean stock car, even with high milage, to anything that's modded. Especially if its not ven complete. You just never know who's been doing the work.

But the ricers out there will probably eat that shit up, if so, let the highest bidder win. :lol:

What do you mean? Installing coilovers? If it was an engine swap then ok...

And Clint, like you said, that car is damaged... and 6 years older. S13's are a dime a dozen, I can't go a day without seeing at least 25. I'm lucky to see 1 kouki a week.

[Timbo]

So... all I was saying earliar in the thread was that 150k miles doesn't equal $7000 for that car EVER IMO. Year doesn't matter to me personally since mileage tells the wear and tear on a car most of the time. Great body? Who cares... I paid $700 for my Supra with 160K miles with a decent body other than paint (no more than $1000 worth of work). The only deifference in my eyes between our cars is year model, which IMO can't make a car worth more in most cases. Just my input on it.

[PrimeredHatch]

The only deifference in my eyes between our cars is year model, which IMO can't make a car worth more in most cases. Just my input on it.

Well, you would be wrong.

[AadosX]

I see what you're saying Timbo, but right now this car is being offered to enthusiasts. That motor won't stay in there anyways, so milage isn't a big deal. Either way, 150k on a japanese motor is nothing.

[AadosX]

Just a little update for you guys... got a stock exhaust system and stock suspension. Sold the coilovers tonight.

[Timbo]

The only deifference in my eyes between our cars is year model, which IMO can't make a car worth more in most cases. Just my input on it.

Well, you would be wrong.

Well, enlighten me on what is right then.... :roll:

[Timbo]

I see what you're saying Timbo, but right now this car is being offered to enthusiasts. That motor won't stay in there anyways, so milage isn't a big deal. Either way, 150k on a japanese motor is nothing.


I also see what you're saying, I was pretty much looking at it as a "normal car for a normal person" kind of view. Good luch either way.

[PrimeredHatch]

The only deifference in my eyes between our cars is year model, which IMO can't make a car worth more in most cases. Just my input on it.

Well, you would be wrong.

Well, enlighten me on what is right then.... :roll:

The exact opposite of what you said. The ONLY thing that makes a price difference in our cars IS the year model.

[Timbo]

How the hell do you figure that? Both miles and year come into play.... So you're saying a 69 Camaro Z28 with low miles would cost less then your little hatchback with alot more miles? That's EXACTLY what you're saying since "The ONLY thing that makes a price difference in our cars IS the year model" PLUS, I said "in my eyes" miles is everything even though in the real world year model is also a key factor in selling a vehicle for a certain price.

Are you an Asian guy with a white Civic hatch with primer on the hood and other places with a roll bar in the car?

[Jess]

Are you an Asian guy with a white Civic hatch with primer on the hood and other places with a roll bar in the car?

http://www.thelemming.com/lemming/issue1/defunct-columns/insults/insult-text.gif

[Weed]

Are you an Asian guy with a white Civic hatch with primer on the hood and other places with a roll bar in the car?

No, he's a short guy with white Kswiss shoes and slicked back hair :P

[AadosX]

I'm Asian. Fuck you buddy.

just kiding :P

BTW, people are fighting over this car lol. I've had at least 25 inquiries and haven't even put it on Autotrader, etc. yet. I'm having to fend off trades now because it will be so easy to get full asking price or even more. Good game to those who didn't think it would happen. 8)

[Jess]

Good game to those who didn't think it would happen. 8)

Don't count your cookies before they've hatched with 1 stoned bird.

[Obike]

Good game to those who didn't think it would happen. 8)

Bull shit dude! YOU WERE WALLHACKING! I SAW IT!!!!

G'damn cheating mother fuckers!

Woops, wrong forum... thought I was in a CS thread :oops:

[1 Bad 68]

I'm Asian. Fuck you buddy.

just kiding :P

BTW, people are fighting over this car lol. I've had at least 25 inquiries and haven't even put it on Autotrader, etc. yet. I'm having to fend off trades now because it will be so easy to get full asking price or even more. Good game to those who didn't think it would happen. 8)

Everything I try and sell is the same way. I had 3-4 people (on average) per hour stopping in at work when I had my motorcycles for sale out front. It took months to sell them, and both resorted to Ebay. :? One of the bikes went all the way to Cali :lol:

You'll have all kinds of people emailing you about it, but the games not over till 'LIL Flip says so! :shock:

[AadosX]

agreed. We'll see.

[1 Bad 68]

Thats the only real thing I hate about selling cool shit...all the dumbass people claiming they'll take it.

Why even fucking ask about it if you know you don't have the fucking money!!!!!????!?!?!?! Its not rocket science! I refuse to waste anyones time, usually if I'm looking at something, and call/ask about it, I'm going to be taking it home, whatever it may be.

[Grider]

Thats the only real thing I hate about selling cool shit...all the dumbass people claiming they'll take it.

Why even fucking ask about it if you know you don't have the fucking money!!!!!????!?!?!?! Its not rocket science! I refuse to waste anyones time, usually if I'm looking at something, and call/ask about it, I'm going to be taking it home, whatever it may be.

Damn dude. :shock:
Sorry I did not buy the Lexus when you had it up for sale. I thought it might be what I wanted, but I was wrong.


:P

[1 Bad 68]

Thats the only real thing I hate about selling cool shit...all the dumbass people claiming they'll take it.

Why even fucking ask about it if you know you don't have the fucking money!!!!!????!?!?!?! Its not rocket science! I refuse to waste anyones time, usually if I'm looking at something, and call/ask about it, I'm going to be taking it home, whatever it may be.

Damn dude. :shock:
Sorry I did not buy the Lexus when you had it up for sale. I thought it might be what I wanted, but I was wrong.


:P

:lol: I'm not talking about you, I had even forgot you had emailed me about it! I'm not talking about people that are in the market for something, obviously you are since you bought an Audi...I'm talking about people that waste my time that aren't even in the market for whatever it is I'm tring to sell. Emailing is one thing, and I could care less who emails me, but calling me or stopping by work and bullshitting for extended periods of time I can't stand. If you come to work and slap cash on the counter, you got alllll my attention!! :lol:

[Anderson]

I personally only give my attention when that cash is inserted into my g-string. "When its in the string, you can have my bling." Thats my motto.

[Jess]

I personally only give my attention when that cash is inserted into my g-string. "When its in the string, you can have my bling." Thats my motto.

lollerskates

[AadosX]

Just found these and confirmed them a few places. Here is why my kouki is worth way more than a zenki (95-96) 240SX. Production numbers:

89 - 68118
90 - 60582
91 - 34534
92 - 27033
93 - 21471
94 - 1167
95 - 25114
96 - 7334
97 - 3655
98 - 2178

[1.8t]

Its worth what someone is willing to pay for it. You can ask all the $$ you want, no one will buy it.;)