Questions/plans for the 240 [Archive] - aSpeed Racing [ Auburn / Atlanta ]

SweetLikeCandy

10-05-2002, 12:21 PM

I would like some advise from you guys on the 240sx. Here's the situation:

I want to start putting some parts on the stock motor of the car while saving up for the swap. This way if I never do get the swap done, I will still be simi-pleased with the work that I did get to do.

Would it be a better idea to just save all of my cash for the new motor or do you think that I should follow the above statement? If it is going to be really hard to resale the performance parts put on the stock engine than I won't put them on. What do ya think?

Frosty_DUB

10-05-2002, 12:42 PM

You swap in an auto, and put naws on it. THen take the spingz off it and cruze around all tight. Then get some 14' lexani cryztalz because you arent cool enough to get 18's. Then get some neonz. and then some apc taillights y0, and then take off your airbox so it would be mad loud yo. Then run it off a bridge. Sell it to me so you wont destroy a fine piece of machinery.

Who the fuck is gonna do the swap for you? A swap is fucking expensive, like twice the price of the damn car. We arent gonna help you.[/b][/quote]

SweetLikeCandy

10-05-2002, 12:48 PM

I don't care if you help me or not. I rather you not to be honest. I don't want to put up with assholes all day in my own shop anyway.

Who will help?

Paul from Express
David from Whitt's
Mike from Plott's

Should I go on? :roll:

Frosty_DUB

10-05-2002, 01:51 PM

Do they know anything about sr20's? HELL NO. Do they know what to do to the harness to get it to work? NO. Do they know what a turbo is? NO. can you drive a fast FR car? NO. If the swap was that easy, there would be 20 running around auburn. Have you ever seen an sr swap? NO.

Think about what you are saying. Muffler shop people are going to help you with something they know nothing about. Do they have any experience with ANYHING like that. NO. Do you have another car to drive around for 6 months while they try to get it to run?

Your own shop? WTF? [/quote]

CPMaverick

10-05-2002, 01:55 PM

I worked for David for a long time. He's a smart guy. That means he can probably do the swap. But he's never done it, and the tie it takes him to learn and finish the swap is going to be time YOU pay for. Translation: he's got to make money, if Whitt's is going to do the swap they WILL make money doing it, and that means super high dollar. Unless he owes you something.

Mike doesn't do that stuff, he owns a body shop :?:

SweetLikeCandy

10-05-2002, 02:10 PM

Paul is one of my best friends and he has been doing motor swaps almost all of his life. Street and pro street s10's etc.., but if he can work on porshe motors, I'm sure that he can handle a 240.

Don't suggest for me to get my facts straight if you don't know what you're talking about either.

CPMaverick

10-05-2002, 02:19 PM

Swapping a V8 into a pro street S10 is a bolt-in deal, with little or no wiring. A baby could do it.

grizoove

10-05-2002, 02:37 PM

Jessie you really need to look into this swap and the actual mods that go well with these cars. This is not just a simple run to autozone pick up the first thing you see and slap it on. The SR20DeT comes out of a right hand drive car. So it has to be converted to work with your left hand drive. So wiring has to be extended and moved, hoses have to be moved. It is not simple, and actually modding the car to even mediocre standards is not easy. I am reluctant to say this but each post I begin to think this may be just a bit out of your league. (Its out of mine too, at the moment I wouldn't undertake such a project)

WiggiE

10-05-2002, 04:27 PM

I don't care if you help me or not. I rather you not to be honest.
If you don't want someones honest opinion, then simply don't post it here. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

Why do you even want the swap??? Do you even know the benefits of putting a new motor in there? Or, are you like all the ricers I know and once they hear a couple of catch phrases, they think they know everything?

I want to start putting some parts on the stock motor of the car while saving up for the swap.
Typical ricer statement. You know you aren't going to get the swap done because you are too interested in putting stickers and tight ass rims on y0! Look, either you save and do the swap or you don't do it at all.

Now, GO AWAY TROLL!

insert_car

10-05-2002, 05:20 PM

not to break you down or anything but your honestly never gonna get this swap. you said yourself you don't have alot of money. well....guess what. swaps are expensive as hell!!!!!!!

this thing is going to be crazy fast compared to the neon so just do bolt ons when you can and be happy with it! it would be pointless to buy bolt ons if you have a swap in the future. it would defeat the purpose of saving money for the swap.

one more thing you don't even need to be thinking about racing cause you have no clue how to drive this car! just some words of advice.

Frosty_DUB

10-05-2002, 09:29 PM

It should run high 15's stock if you can drive.

I wanted to do one for 6 months or so, its such a big project, Im gonna hold off till I get out of school and make money and have my own garage.

Seriously.

linuxman51

10-06-2002, 01:22 PM

You guys are a bunch of nay-saying bastards. There's enough negative waves coming out of yall to do in the whole world.

So what if she fucked her other car up.. get over it.. its not like she fucked your car up.. Thats how things work.. you try something, you learn, you move on.
Secondly, swaps don't have to be expensive as hell, you just need a few good friends, some good research, and plenty of time to try things... once you get the mechanical stuff figured out, the wiring is a breeze (sorry, it is. if you're trying to make something work in stock form, running extra wire and tracing where the wires go is simple.. it might be time consuming, esp if only one person is doing it, but its not hard... dvm, test light, and some gator clip wires).
And as for this whole not being able to drive thing, I could be mistaken, but I haven't seen or heard about too many of you guys going to solo IIs.
So what if you can drag your car.. that has little to nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with repetitiveness and a will to break things.

As for the differences between a FF and FR car, yea, theres a little to get used to there, especially in the rain.. where FF cars plow, FR cars spin.
I would highly recomend that you find a slick wet parking lot and learn the car that way.. makes life a lot easier, and driving in the rain becomes infinitly more fun (the audi guys know what I'm talking about, right Greyson? :D )

And as for being a troll, if you want a troll to go away, you simply ignore it. So if thats the object of this tirade, you're going about it all wrong.

Matt Harris

10-06-2002, 01:48 PM

[quote="linuxman51"]I would highly recomend that you find a slick wet parking lot and learn the car that way.. makes life a lot easier, and driving in the rain becomes infinitly more fun (the audi guys know what I'm talking about, right Greyson? :D )

quote]

Can you say 'axis spins'? 8)

insert_car

10-06-2002, 05:38 PM

Secondly, swaps don't have to be expensive as hell, you just need a few good friends, some good research, and plenty of time to try things... once you get the mechanical stuff figured out, the wiring is a breeze (sorry, it is. if you're trying to make something work in stock form, running extra wire and tracing where the wires go is simple.. it might be time consuming, esp if only one person is doing it, but its not hard... dvm, test light, and some gator clip wires).
And as for this whole not being able to drive thing, I could be mistaken, but I haven't seen or heard about too many of you guys going to solo IIs.
So what if you can drag your car.. that has little to nothing to do with skill, and everything to do with repetitiveness and a will to break things.

no they don't have to be... i mean i can do a swap for mine for under 1000 bucks thats engine and everything that is needed! BUT....... most people don't have hook-ups and people to help out. also the engine cost alot to get in the first place. maybe not to somepeople but to me TIME IS MONEY! you spend alot of money while this swap is going on. you'll need other forms of transportation and money to feed the workers. these are things you have to take into consideration.

as for the auto x statement....well i have been and i must say i loved it. one of the most exciting things i have ever done. in fact i'm going to continue to to it. i think i did pretty good to get third place the first time i ever run. not to mention i hit no cones. not to try to sound like i'm billy bad ass or anything but i think i know my car very well and i know its limitations.

Frosty_DUB

10-06-2002, 07:01 PM

we are nay-sayers on purpose.

I dont want to see one of my favorite cars being ruined in front of my eyes.

AccoRdINlySlo

10-06-2002, 07:53 PM

I'm really sorry to break this to you, but your friends won't be able to get it done no matter how many motors they have put it. If they don't know anything about the SR motor, you're shit out of luck. Two of my buddies well one still does has a sr motor in their 240 and they told me how much of a bitch it is to do the swap. One of my buddies that still has it, he sent his car to Miami to get it finish. Took a long time but still was a bitch to get done. My other buddy that had one, him and another friend of mine drop the motor in himself, but he sold the car and the motor but he could never get it to run correctly. The main problem with installing that motor from what I know is that the wiring is totally different. The two that put the motor in themselves do motor swaps, installs,etc...and they could never get the motor and car to work or even run. And these two guys knew a lot about sr motor and all. So if I was you, just fix up the stock motor. If you tried to get your friends to do it, even if they get it working which I really doubt, its going to be really expensive. Lets just say once everything is all said and done, your motor will be more than your car :lol:

Jess

10-06-2002, 08:38 PM

im sure you could find the wiring on the net somewhere. i have a SCC article with at least most of the information. Also, hoses have to be switched out and a ton of wires lengthened. Not to mention the cost of the damn motor. It'd probably run about $2500 if you're lucky. Then again, its best off to go ahead and get the whole front clip. = $3250+ .

In other words, keep the KA24DE, unless you're made out of money. U dont need all that power anyway

Matt Harris

10-06-2002, 09:03 PM

You can throw a turbo on the KA24DE anyway for a whole lot cheaper, and still be plenty fast.

Jess

10-06-2002, 09:12 PM

agreed, lots of people are turboing those motors with lots of success. its junkyard turbo time!

SweetLikeCandy

10-06-2002, 11:16 PM

Thanks for the advise guys. After talking with Jess briefly on Saturday, I found out that I can in fact put turbo on the 240's motor for less cash than it would take to do the swap.

I do want to learn how far I can push it on the stock car before putting a lot of performance features that I've never even heard of first. Why put off until tomorrow what can be done today? This is most of the reason why I am thinking so far in advance.

In my opinion, I do know how to drive. I'll post more tomorrow. :wink:

insert_car

10-07-2002, 12:55 AM

In my opinion, I do know how to drive.

hummmmmm........

Frosty_DUB

10-07-2002, 01:03 AM

Make sure its got a new power band installed. If the power band is too old, the car will sputter and misfire.

You also need to get the crankshaft rotational dampener replaced as well. High performance titanium piston return springs are a nice upgrade if you arent going to do the swap.

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 04:24 PM

I think that the first move will be a muffler. I've been price checking today so hopefully I can find a good deal on something pretty nice.

I know that it won't help with the hp or anything, but I really want to get the 240 painted after the muffler is on. This way I can feel like the car is more mine.....I don't know, it's hard to explain. I just want to customize the 240 to fit my personality more......no, not by taking the springs off....... :lol:

insert_car

10-07-2002, 04:50 PM

don't just get the muffler. save and get the cat back or full

grizoove

10-07-2002, 04:51 PM

I think that the first move will be a muffler

I applaud your first step to making this another ricey car.

I know that it won't help with the hp or anything

Nope but it will surely make it sound like ass.

but I really want to get the 240 painted after the muffler is on

Paint is all well and good, but since when is putting a muffler on a preliminary step to a paint job?

I just want to customize the 240 to fit my personality

Your getting that syndrome of having to do something to your car and in the process you will have to re-do it all, if that is you ever figure it out and evolve from the lesser pure ricer to more of a car person.

I can say this from experience...I had blue hubcaps and interior, and it was a bitch to turn back to the way it was before I fucked with it.

Take my advice EVOLVE!! It will save you time, money, effort, and will put you closer to having a nice car. Dont make the situation worse.

insert_car

10-07-2002, 05:01 PM

Take my advice EVOLVE!!

good word. do that!

Jess

10-07-2002, 05:13 PM

uh huh. i cant talk, cuz all i got is a muffler, but i didnt have anyone telling me to do otherwise. save up for a cat-back. or have one custom done.

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 05:34 PM

uh huh. i cant talk, cuz all i got is a muffler, but i didnt have anyone telling me to do otherwise. save up for a cat-back. or have one custom done.

Don't worry. I was talking to Scott at Zen about it. We are in for the cat back. :wink:

Andy, the muffler is my first choice. I like how they sound. I don't care if you think that it's rice. I don't and it's my opinion that matters.

I created this topic for positive posts, no one will get anywhere with negative ones. Being honest is fine, but try to be a little more considerate of other peoples feelings.

Thanks,
Jessie

grizoove

10-07-2002, 05:36 PM

Check.

Honesty is hard to take sometimes. I am sure SF will agree with you...Sorry I couldn't resist.

Frosty_DUB

10-07-2002, 05:39 PM

Truth hurts.

for that car, if its not made by apexi or hks, its ricey shit, and dont buy that shit. nice exhaust systems are around 500, if its way less, its garbage.

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 05:39 PM

Check.

Honesty is hard to take sometimes. I am sure SF will agree with you...Sorry I couldn't resist.

It's all good Andy :wink: by the way, thanks for that favor. I was just informed last night about what went down.

grizoove

10-07-2002, 05:47 PM

I was just informed last night about what went down

huh?

AccoRdINlySlo

10-07-2002, 06:23 PM

I was say save up for a full ca-back. You will wish you would have after you get the muffler. Honestly, getting a full cat-back will benifit you later in the long run. Also just hate mufflers. Most shops can't even install a muffler right, its usually all off and shiet. Anyways trust me, it'll be well worth it in a long run. At one point when i first started on my car, I was bout to just get a muffler, but decided, hey 100 or so more wouldn hurt, so I got a full cat-back. I have a slow auto 4 door, but I still decided to get the full C/B...just trust me on this one :wink:

WiggiE

10-07-2002, 06:25 PM

What do ya think?
I think a brick wall would benefit your car the most.

jdmsol

10-07-2002, 06:51 PM

What do ya think?
I think a brick wall would benefit your car the most.

Shut up and go post your useless shit somewhere else!

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 06:54 PM

What do ya think?
I think a brick wall would benefit your car the most.

I just love to see you so happy and care free. It does my heart good. :roll:

About the cat-back, i'm going for the whole encilada. My prices haven't been to friendly, but I'll just keep saving until I can afford to do EVERYTHING right and complete the first time.

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 06:55 PM

What do ya think?
I think a brick wall would benefit your car the most.

Shut up and go post your useless shit somewhere else!

:shock: :lol:

grizoove

10-07-2002, 07:04 PM

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 07:21 PM

About the cat-back, i'm going for the whole encilada. My prices haven't been to friendly, but I'll just keep saving until I can afford to do EVERYTHING right and complete the first time.

Much better. :wink: Now what type are you looking at?

Not too sure yet. I have only looked at a few brands so far and only heard one of them. I know that the rumble shouldn't matter, but the sound....oh the sound.... it just does something to me. :lol:
Anyways, I'm thinking Boss Speed. It was on the mx-6 that I drove not too long ago, seemed straight. Your advise is more than welcome though. :wink:

jdmsol

10-07-2002, 07:55 PM

Truth hurts.

for that car, if its not made by apexi or hks, its ricey shit, and dont buy that shit. nice exhaust systems are around 500, if its way less, its garbage.

For once, I will totally agree with you Clint. Personally, I'd go apexi.

insert_car

10-07-2002, 07:59 PM

boss speed?? uuuuuhhhhhh....

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 08:02 PM

With what me and Scott talked about, it's not to friendly to my pocket (as stated above). Around 6, maybe even more.

I just want something that offers the best hp for my car, looks good, and has that sound that just makes you wanna cum...( :oops: sorry)....Is that too much to ask?

Matt Harris

10-07-2002, 08:31 PM

Just a guess, but I think she meant Bozz Speed. :D Which sounds like a good choice to me. They make some pretty bad-ass stuff from what i've seen.

Frosty_DUB

10-07-2002, 08:45 PM

i would get an apexi dual N1 if I had a 240.

insert_car

10-07-2002, 08:46 PM

Just a guess, but I think she meant Bozz Speed. :D Which sounds like a good choice to me. They make some pretty bad-ass stuff from what i've seen.

oooooh..lol.... i thought it was some apc knock off or something. :D

yeah i have heard some good things about them.

SweetLikeCandy

10-07-2002, 08:49 PM

Just a guess, but I think she meant Bozz Speed.

That's it....I think. When I was driving the mx-6, all I could think about was how good the clutch felt, almost a familiar feeling. It was hard to read what the ex. pipe said, all I could make out was bosi....bosni, boss speed....something to that affect. Anyway, I liked it.

AccoRdINlySlo

10-08-2002, 01:26 AM

Don't know much about the Bozz exhaust but my buddy with his 240 went with the Apexi N1. I love the way it sits on the car. Dont know if you notice the new Japenese style, the muffler will sit crooked a lil and all. Also sounds so nice :D . I think it'll make you cum :wink: :lol:

grizoove

10-08-2002, 09:49 AM

isn't the apexi N1 th one that comes under the LCA...if so speed bumps will be hold a place dear to your heart...but oh wait I forgot about the no springs thing.

jdmsol

10-08-2002, 03:41 PM

SweetLikeCandy

10-08-2002, 03:55 PM

So, I'm guessing that the Bozz Speed is a pretty good idea. Do any of you guys have the apexi n1 on your car? I would really like to be able to listen to the muffler.

Will Someone explain the difference in hp (with the full cat-back ex )between the two. Also.....hp difference with duel ex. rather than single. :wink:

Jess

10-08-2002, 04:06 PM

dual will give you twice the horsepower. no...it wont. you dont need it.

hp difference is like a horsepower or two if any

SweetLikeCandy

10-08-2002, 04:09 PM

Then what's the purpose of getting duel ex? :oops:

Jess

10-08-2002, 04:15 PM

if you got two headers, then you get two exhausts. at least i think thats how it works

WiggiE

10-08-2002, 04:17 PM

I would really like to be able to listen to the muffler.
If you are that worried about being a ricer that much, go to Wolf and have them put on a fart tip for ya. You will be much happier with the amount of money spent.

Will someone explain the difference in hp (with the full cat-back ex )between the two.
Probably not a whole lot, unless the stock 240 exhaust has alot of nasty bends in it. You know what....for the extra money you would spend on a cat-back....you won't be happy with it. So, go get a muffler put on at a muffler shop. All you care about is sound, so go get you a muffler.

insert_car

10-08-2002, 04:29 PM

You know what....for the extra money you would spend on a cat-back....you won't be happy with it. So, go get a muffler put on at a muffler shop. All you care about is sound, so go get you a muffler.

tru dat yo! i still can't believe you like that sound

SweetLikeCandy

10-08-2002, 05:12 PM

I don't JUST care about the sound, but I don't want it to sound like shit. I don't care if I'm a ricer or not either. We have all established that no one really has the same definition of rice, so regaurdless someone will always think that I am with whatever it is that I do. I can cope sweet pea, don't worry.

I'm about to leave to go drive a fire bird. This will just be to humor my mother, the 240 will be in the drive way the 14th, or no later than the 24th.

SweetLikeCandy

10-08-2002, 07:01 PM

More info about the 240:

Black, Manual Trans,
1991 Nissan 240sx

Motor: 2.4 litter
ka24 (DE) 2389
Twin cam

Maybe this will help you guys give me some suggestions. :wink:

(No-brick walls, no-don't get it, etc...)

Jess

10-08-2002, 07:25 PM

http://www.modacar.com/products/Nissan/240SX

SweetLikeCandy

10-08-2002, 09:55 PM

Jess, do you have a web site address for everything? :lol:

Jess

10-08-2002, 10:01 PM

http://www.yes-i-do.com

SweetLikeCandy

10-08-2002, 11:55 PM

isn't the apexi N1 th one that comes under the LCA...if so speed bumps will be hold a place dear to your heart...but oh wait I forgot about the no springs thing.

This is a very true statement and I can speak from experience :evil: ....speed bumps will kill the apexi. You would have to be VERY CAREFUL.

I think that I can manage to drive with the apexi, after all I did drive with only about 1 to 2 inches of clearence under my last car. :wink:

Good looking out though.

Adam

10-09-2002, 01:47 AM

http://www.yes-i-do.com

oh yeah?!?!

http://314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459.com/

btw... click it... it works

jdmsol

10-09-2002, 02:09 AM

http://www.yes-i-do.com

oh yeah?!?!

http://314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459.com/

btw... click it... it works

WOW!!! I've always wondered about that. Great post!!!

grizoove

10-09-2002, 11:04 AM

jdmsol

10-09-2002, 02:28 PM

Jessie you have driven without any clearance, but you have never driven with any of value under your car either. So beware. And about the sound, alot of systems sound like ass, I dont know what you like but that sound coming from bambi's car is not cool. I do know that the apexi N1 is quite loud.

Yeah, what exactly does Alicia have on there? I heard it the last time I was in Auburn. The N1 is loud, but you can adjust it to your preference. :wink: Without a doubt, I think it looks the nicest out of the systems that I have seen for the 240.

SweetLikeCandy

10-09-2002, 04:46 PM

What does Bambi02 have on her car? Is her car the white Honda that was up at the feilds this last time?

Not so true on the value comment. At the time, I valued the oil pan, my cv axle/joint (hopeing that they wouldn't brake). The Neon was my first love. I know that I should be ashamed of that comment, but I'm not.

Anyways, my whole point in saying that I was used to not having any clearance was to show that I really do know how to drive low cars. I will be careful if I get the apexi though. :wink:

I know that you guys don't work at muffler shops or anything, but...... What do you think that the price difference (if any) will be between the apexi and the bozz speed? What about hp and quaility?

Frosty_DUB

10-09-2002, 09:48 PM

1. bozz speed doesnt make anything for nissans.
2. zen couldnt get one anyway, so its another brand that is spelled similar
3. Apex full catbacks are some of the best.

SweetLikeCandy

10-09-2002, 10:04 PM

1. bozz speed doesnt make anything for nissans.
2. zen couldnt get one anyway, so its another brand that is spelled similar
3. Apex full catbacks are some of the best.

Thanks. I guess that shortens the list. :lol: Anything better than an apexi? How much do you think that it will cost me? When I talked to Scott, he said that if I could get it for less at Wolf, than GGG would probably price match. That's good I guess. :wink:

With the full cat-back Apexi, how much hp would be added to my 240? It has around 155 stock I think.

Oh....I drove some more cars today. A Celica, The Fire Bird that I was supposed to drive yesterday, and another 240. I had fun, but I liked the 240 the best. Go figure. :D

insert_car

10-09-2002, 10:35 PM

With the full cat-back Apexi, how much hp would be added to my 240? It has around 155 stock I think.

not much! seriously if you want good hp gains then don't start with exhaust. if you want that anoying buzzing noise then get exhaust. just don't expect much out of the exhaust. i'd say maybe 3-4 hp. or not even that. heh

jdmsol

10-10-2002, 12:39 AM

I'll say 5-8 hp. This could be a little high, Mike's estimate sounds pretty reasonable to me...maybe just a little bit more, but that's it.

Frosty_DUB

10-10-2002, 01:53 PM

Dont say anything else about the 240, shit you still havent got it.

You probably jinxed yourself.

SweetLikeCandy

10-10-2002, 03:10 PM

Mike, (with a reasonable budget), where would you start?

Jim, I was told 5-10, but I don't relie much on the person who told me.

Frosty, Either way....I'll have the car. I must get it; I am in love with the 240. :metalhea:

WiggiE

10-10-2002, 04:37 PM

Jim, I was told 5-10, but I don't relie much on the person who told me.
I gotta get me one of those exhaust, y0! Does it come with LED's in the tip of the exhaust??? :bow:

grizoove

10-10-2002, 04:42 PM

I would start, by doing a whole hell of a lot of research, if nothing to just see what all is avaliable for that engine and chassis.

jdmsol

10-10-2002, 04:52 PM

I would start, by doing a whole hell of a lot of research, if nothing to just see what all is avaliable for that engine and chassis.

Yeah, LOTS and LOTS of research. There is quite a bit available for the 240.

insert_car

10-10-2002, 06:42 PM

I would start, by doing a whole hell of a lot of research, if nothing to just see what all is avaliable for that engine and chassis.

exactly....find out all the things that are avaliable and check you budget for pricing. find out actual or close gains that you might acheive.

me personally. i would definely start out with a CAI. then maybe look at some headers. or maybe the full exhaust set up if money permits. cams, gears, blablabla. and bla bla bla.

Jess

10-10-2002, 08:13 PM

Im going to stick with my orignial post. go to 240sx.org and spend a good week or two reading through the threads. You will figure out who knows what they are talking about and who doesnt. You'll also find out what kind of gains different mods will get you. (different cars react differently to different mods). You're not going to find many answers here, only educated guesses and speculation. I dont think anybody here knows a whole lot about 240s. So.... go to 240sx.org and see what the best bang-for-your-buck mods are.

SweetLikeCandy

10-10-2002, 09:30 PM

Jess

10-10-2002, 11:48 PM

Thanks again everyone! :wink:

I have been doing a lot of looking, compairing, pricing, etc... the past few days. I have actually decided to go with injen short ram air induction before the muffler. Why not pay a bit more for the cold air? I was told that if I was going to do turbo later on than...long story, but it would just save a lot of re-routeing etc...

I'm not sure if I ever will get to do the turbo, but I want to start setting the car up for it just in case. I also learned a lot about down force today. I think that I am really learning some important things now that I've met you guys. Oh, and did you know that APC maked body kits?!!? Just joking. :lol:

Thanks...one more time :wink:

The price diff between a short ram and a cold air is not a whole lot especially if you go generic. if you're gonna have the cash to turbo it, the price difference between the short ram and cold air shouldnt mean too much.

i.e. im about to drop a few thousand dollars into my car to turbo it. 30 bux dont mean shit. Im probably going to cut my cold air into pieces and that'll save me a few bucks on IC piping anyways.

this is a loose example
short = 175
cold air = 220

lets say for argument sake that a short ram will give you 4 hp and a cold air will give you 6 hp

short = $43.5/hp
cold air = $36.6/hp

and thats a brand name (prices from modacar.com)

you could prolly get a no-name for 50% to 75% that cost, giving you a much lower hp/$ ratio.

Dont look a bang-for-your-buck horse in the mouth

APC makes body shits, not body kits. The only thing they are good for is light bulbs and a legitimate exuse to make fun of somebody.

SweetLikeCandy

10-11-2002, 11:00 AM

Jess, when I went to Wolf I was told it would be more like 250 give or take for cold air and around 120-150 for short ram.

I don't know, I'm just so excited about the car I can hardly wait. I want to put some form of air intake on the 240 within the first couple of weeks. I hear a lot of good things about Injen, so I think that I 'm going to get my air intake from them. Do you have any suggestions reguarding intakes?

Jess

10-11-2002, 12:18 PM

on modacar.com, im pretty sure the injen cold air is $219 or something. I would suggest installing it yourself. Its not hard. I would just get a generic one off ebay if you can find one. Its not really rocket science. Companies like Injen, AEM have already done the R&D, so I dont see anything wrong with getting a knock-off. As long as its got a decent filter on it.

jdmsol

10-11-2002, 12:25 PM

Yeah, I've heard pretty good things about Injen. Going with a knockoff would be fine as well....just make sure your filter isn't a piece of crap. Here is another good place to shop for the 240.
http://www.stillen.com

SweetLikeCandy

10-11-2002, 12:32 PM

uhhhh, I don't know. I've gone with no name brands before and I've never had good turn-outs. Pluse, I don't really know what to look for air filter wise. I know that I can install the intake; I helped one of my old friends do his and I've watched it being done a few times.

What should I look for?

AccoRdINlySlo

10-11-2002, 12:59 PM

SweetLikeCandy

10-11-2002, 01:06 PM

Whatever you do don't go to Wolf for parts, they will rip you off so much, you should just go ahead and order from NOPI if you really look at it. But if you do a little searching, I BET you can find it wayyyyyy cheaper then $250...Also go with the Injen, heard some good stuff too.

Yeah, I've heard really good things about Injen, so that's what I think will be my best bet. Can I get parts cheaper at Nopi than I could at Zen? I'll have to check out the prices when I get a chance.

jdmsol

10-11-2002, 02:17 PM

Yeah, I've heard really good things about Injen, so that's what I think will be my best bet. Can I get parts cheaper at Nopi than I could at Zen? I'll have to check out the prices when I get a chance.

Here is the deal on Nopi....
Polished Injen Intake w/ filter $205.76 (Red or Blue for $213.83)
Cold Air Extension Tube $104.90 (Red or blue for $112.97)

Nopi works in really weird ways. There website will list higher prices and does not include shipping. If you call them, most of the time they will give you a lower price over the phone and if you just drop by you will get it for even lower. The guys there work off of commission so they can afford to come down on price in the store. My advice would be to go directly to the Forrest Park store and ask for Steve. Nopi 1-800-277-6674

Also, set up an account there. That way the next time you buy through them, you get products at a discounted rate as well.

I'm always up for a trip to Nopi, so if you need someone who knows how to get there, let me know. I'd be more than happy. :wink:

SweetLikeCandy

10-11-2002, 02:51 PM

Jim, I have been to Nopi, but I'm not too sure if I remember how to get there once I'm off of the interstate. Let me know if you are available one weekend and maybe we can go up there.
:wink:

grizoove

10-11-2002, 02:53 PM

SweetLikeCandy

10-11-2002, 03:07 PM

Zen wont give you a good price, they are still trying to get on their feet and cant afford it, I guess. there install prices are also redicoulous, but I am sure that around this area they will make a killing. When you go through a lot of these little shops, its just like going through a middle man, and that will bump the price up.

Yeah, I've noticed. I've been talking with them a lot lately and been getting some pretty good advise, the only problem for me is their prices. I think that Nopi will suite me just fine.

jdmsol

10-11-2002, 03:20 PM

Jim, I have been to Nopi, but I'm not too sure if I remember how to get there once I'm off of the interstate. Let me know if you are available one weekend and maybe we can go up there.
:wink:

Just let me know when you want to go.

SweetLikeCandy

10-11-2002, 03:25 PM

I've found some really good sites for 240 parts. One is www.autoimaging.com and another is www.erebuni.net Jess, you should check these out.

SweetLikeCandy

10-13-2002, 08:00 AM

Anybody know where I can make a few hundred $ right quick? The clock is counting down and I'm lacking 200 to 300 dollars. I have to get this car on Monday. I'm tired of waiting.

Why doesn't anyone keep their promises anymore? Just a ranting question. :cry:

WiggiE

10-13-2002, 10:47 AM

I've found some really good sites for 240 parts. One is www.autoimaging.com and another is www.erebuni.net Jess, you should check these out.

I know I'm not Jess, but I'm going to comment anyway. The first site has decent stuff, but is overpriced. The second is just a ricer store and doesn't suprise me. It really doesn't matter how many stores you look at, if you don't know what you want. Here, I'm going to break it down for you.

Proper way to research and buy products for a car:
1. Research the car in general, know common facts about it.
2. Follow peoples examples in modifying your car. I.E. if they get the most gain off the bat with a header, then get a header.
3. Research the part (I.E. header) and find out which one is going to suit your needs/price range.
4. Find the part in the online/local stores. Get the one that is the cheapest.

Matt Harris

10-13-2002, 03:04 PM

Anybody know where I can make a few hundred $ right quick? The clock is counting down and I'm lacking 200 to 300 dollars.

I'm sorry, I just had to laugh at this statement. It's so easy, i'm not even going to make a smart-ass remark. Besides, i'm too nice a guy to say anything sick or mean. :wink:

Frosty_DUB

10-13-2002, 03:20 PM

autoimaging is a great site, not overpriced, thats how much jspec stuff is. 2k for a body kit isnt alot, there great quality and fit right, not to mention look waay better than the other crap.

I bet you wont get the 240, hehe. That will be funny.

SweetLikeCandy

10-13-2002, 07:49 PM

I bet you wont get the 240, hehe. That will be funny.

No. I would kill myself. After all of this shit, not getting the 240 is no option for me. No matter how long it takes I must have that car. Monday isn't looking up right now though. I'm just going to keep on drinking for right now, but I'll keep you all up dated (even if you don't care).

WiggiE

10-14-2002, 02:04 AM

But I'll keep you all up dated (even if you don't care).

I DON'T!

Jess

10-14-2002, 02:02 PM

I've found some really good sites for 240 parts. One is www.autoimaging.com and another is www.erebuni.net Jess, you should check these out.

get wit the program. im not getting a 240 anymore, im building up the lude.

Back to your 240, ive said this 80 million times, 240sx.org. Join it, learn it. You're gonna get a million times more info there than here. If you look hard enough, you might even find some dyno numbers for different cat-backs and intakes