Awesome 24 car review.

[ActiveAero]

http://12.239.16.150/reviews.html

Go to the bang for the buck ariticle. (says new beside it)
It features a few cars we have in the club and alot most of us are interested in.

[linuxman51]

bah. thats no real review.. they didnt list the über elite volvo S60-R with its totally badass inline 5(300hp i think) all wheel drive 6 speed

[ActiveAero]

I found it quite interesting that my car had faster cornering speeds than the S2000 and Porsche 911. I also own jOo all in braking :wink: . Just goes to show that cars are setup different and won't always react the same because no two tracks are alike.

By the way it was damp in the test hence the slower accleration numbers for most of the cars.

[AU RSX-S]

I found it quite interesting that my car had faster cornering speeds than the S2000 and Porsche 911.

It's front wheel drive, it's going to be easier to drive. I'm not saying you car didn't do that though. I didn't match the lap times in the S2000 that I was pulling in my car until the end of the track day due to the fact that the car is RWD and that it's also hard to drive period. It's a very unforgiving automobile. There is NO room for mistakes. I've heard the same think about 911's due to the fact that the engine is in the rear and that it can get all over the place. The one that tracked with us tended to get a little uneasy at times.

[Jess]

It's a very unforgiving automobile. There is NO room for mistakes.

I agree. I drove a friend's s2000. I dont have much recent experience with RWD cars, but thought it was a little harder to drive than it should have been. Regular city/hwy driving is nice and smooth, but when you get on it in a corner, its a little weird. Even with super sticky tires on it, it acted like it wanted to get loose. Maybe it was just the ATTS engaging or something. I backed off. didnt want to kill an s2k with 1000 miles on it. Donuts in S2ks are FUNNN!! Not to say its poorly engineered, its just more of a drivers car and requires 100% concentration if you're gettin on the gas. Wish it had more torque tho.

[AU RSX-S]

Wish it had more torque tho.

Everyone says that. Honda's with VTEC don't feel fast period compared to most other cars but when you look down and see how fast your going you realize what the car is capable of. The S2000 does not feel fast at all. It puts you back in your seat a little bit but not like a Vette or anything like that. But anyways, the car has torque, you just have to be in the right gear at the right time. It's power takes time to build. Low end is out of the question though.

[Jess]

yeah, low end is what i was referring to. When my friend asked me to do some donuts in it, it took several tries of dropping the clutch at different RPM's to get it started. I had to wind that thing way the hell up to get the tires to slip. Guess thats partially due to the fact that he had good tires too. Miata on crank

[AU RSX-S]

Miata on crank

BWHHHHAAA! That's the truth. :D

[ActiveAero]

I wasn't saying my car corners faster than those two overall. It just happened to do it in this test. They used a formula ford championship winning race driver to record the times. He also won the Porsche Cup series so I think he's more than use to 911's. :wink:

I wouldn't really call an S2000 unforgiving. Yes its set up a little twitchy but those words are reserved for cars like a Dodge Viper or old 911 (backend comes out and its over).

[CPMaverick]

Yeah I wouldn't expect an S2000 to be unforgiving either, and I sure wouldn't say a FWD car is that much easier to drive that it results in faster cornering speeds.

Now the powerband is a PITA and I would hate to drive one because it would be hell keeping your RPMs in the right place. But for cornering power it should be a nice car to drive.

The S2000 has great weight distribution, low torque (which makes transitions easier), and RWD. It should be easy to drive.

A rear engined car is going to be twitchy, especially on turn-in. This might make it a little more difficult to control but it also makes it a lot better in tight corners because it's easy to turn-in (less understeer=good).

[AU RSX-S]

My question is have ya'll ever driven an S2000 before. The S2K is not easy to drive. When driving the car 8 to 10 tenths, I can not stress how unforgiving it is. To get full potential out of the car it has to be driven like a bat out of hell or the driver has to a good one. The car has plenty of oversteer to get you sideways before you even know it. When I say "unforgiving" I am implying that there is no warning before the car breaks loose. Brock, I think your a good driver and everything but I would like to see you drive an S2K like you drive your car. You'd be in a ditch before you know it. :wink:

[CPMaverick]

Well hell yeah it's going to oversteer a lot more than a FWD car. But nothing about an S2000 should make it twitchy. No low-end torque, fron't engine, front weight bias.

No I haven't driven one before, but I think you are just used to your RSX. How many other RWD cars have you pushed to the limit?

[AU RSX-S]

Well hell yeah it's going to oversteer a lot more than a FWD car. But nothing about an S2000 should make it twitchy. No low-end torque, fron't engine, front weight bias.

No I haven't driven one before, but I think you are just used to your RSX. How many other RWD cars have you pushed to the limit?

I'm not saying the car can't be driven but it is a driver's car. So is Brock's car. The only other RWD cars I have driven are the Mustang GT, old Camaro, Porsche 911, Infiniti J30t, and countless trucks. The Mustang I gave hell and It is NOT a track car. The rest don't count except for the 911. I had a hard time driving it in a straight line because of the aftermrket clutch. So no, I really haven't gotten the chance to drive many RWD cars but I guess you need to drive an S2K too. You have very good points Charlie but I don't think you can base an opinion about something you've never tried or done before. Only under certain circumstances. Like I said, I have had the opportunity to drive one for almost two years and the car has to be driven to the max or to the best of the driver's ability to see smiles after pulling in to see lap times. In a lot of other cars this isn't the case. I stand by my opinion and even if I were to drive the other cars (RWD) in the S2K's class I would still probably stand by it. :D

[ActiveAero]

My question is have ya'll ever driven an S2000 before. The S2K is not easy to drive. When driving the car 8 to 10 tenths, I can not stress how unforgiving it is. To get full potential out of the car it has to be driven like a bat out of hell or the driver has to a good one. The car has plenty of oversteer to get you sideways before you even know it. When I say "unforgiving" I am implying that there is no warning before the car breaks loose. Brock, I think your a good driver and everything but I would like to see you drive an S2K like you drive your car. You'd be in a ditch before you know it. :wink:

No I haven't driven an S2000 yet. Though I have driven a Miata, MR2, Corvette ZO6, 98 C5 Corvette, 76 Stingray, and numerous others. I pushed both the Miata and MR2 well past there limits on numerous occasions (got the backends out several times). A MR2 will make you sweat a little because I had its backend pop out really far and really unexpected (mid corner hit some loose gravel/sand). I'll I'm trying to say is that I've pushed just about every drivetrain layout to its limits.

I'm sure an S2000 is a harder car to drive 10/10ths than mine but the fact is a championship race car driver was behind the wheel....not me.

[AU RSX-S]

I'm sure an S2000 is a harder car to drive 10/10ths than mine but the fact is a championship race car driver was behind the wheel....not me.
Brock, you don't seem to understand my point. I never said that your car was probably slower in the corners then the S2K. To sum it up I'm saying that the S2k is a driver's car. PERIOD!

I'm not trying to be a dick but it seems that the car is being under estimated.

[1.8t]

I don't see a AWD in there........don't worry, your not missing much. WRX= understeer on turn in, decent grip, and rockets out of the corners.....thankgod no salesman was with mom and my younger brother for the test drive. Mom on the other hand was about to go crazy :roll: . I also don't see the S2k as being twitchy, but I have never driven one, so that is just my opinion untill I drive one. I do see a light rear end as being a possible snap oversteer situation, just like corvettes

[ActiveAero]

I don't see a AWD in there........don't worry, your not missing much. WRX= understeer on turn in, decent grip, and rockets out of the corners.....thankgod no salesman was with mom and my younger brother for the test drive. Mom on the other hand was about to go crazy :roll: . I also don't see the S2k as being twitchy, but I have never driven one, so that is just my opinion untill I drive one. I do see a light rear end as being a possible snap oversteer situation, just like corvettes

I use to drive the hell out of a 91 GSX. 8)

[ActiveAero]

I'm not trying to be a dick but it seems that the car is being under estimated.

Who underestimated it? No one ever said anything bad about the S2000 and it is a better car than mine performance wise. All I'm saying that for the price its kinda cool that my car actually out did it in a few test areas in this particular writeup. Actually I could care less about out cornering the S2000. Taking the 911 is what excited me the most.

Didn't mean to turn this in to a Type-R is the best thread. Maybe I sounded like that in an earlier post but I didn't mean to come across that way.

[CPMaverick]

Well ANY street car has a measure of compliance. You think i can't have an opinion on the car because I've never drove it, I think you can't place it in a list of cars as far as how forgiving it is, because you don't have that kind of experience. Any RWD car is going to be less forgiving than most FWD cars. Street cars always give you warning before they loop, it's called tire squeal ;) :p

[AU RSX-S]

[quote="AU RSX-S]I'm not trying to be a dick but it seems that the car is being under estimated.

Brock, you act like I'm trying to start a fight. I love your car and I wouldn't doubt for a second that it may be faster around the corner then the other two compared. If my car had all of those awards or winnings I would have posted them too. I just stated my points and you stated yours. The only award my car has ever gotten (exclude comparison test) is ten best award for 2002 in C & D. :D

Well ANY street car has a measure of compliance. You think i can't have an opinion on the car because I've never drove it, I think you can't place it in a list of cars as far as how forgiving it is, because you don't have that kind of experience.

I already said that. I'd like to drive more RWD cars but I just don't come accross that chance very much. Your right, I have only had most of my experience with FWD cars. I have only drive one AWD car. Really different. :D

[1.8t]

True........this thread had flame war written all over it.

[grizoove]

All threads on this board are potential flame wars.

[AU RSX-S]

All threads on this board are potential flame wars.

Yep.

[1.8t]

Yeah, but the question here is why can't we all see these potiential flame threads as potential flame threads just keep them to ourselves. Relentless bickering is not the focus here, but that is all we get because we get posts of how dumb a member is, or how good a car is, or how this one guy that I don't like says he has stuff on his car and I don't believe him so I am going to whine. Baisically, STFU.

[AU RSX-S]

Yeah, but the question here is why can't we all see these potiential flame threads as potential flame threads just keep them to ourselves. Relentless bickering is not the focus here, but that is all we get because we get posts of how dumb a member is, or how good a car is, or how this one guy that I don't like says he has stuff on his car and I don't believe him so I am going to whine. Baisically, STFU.

Good point. :wink:

[eSpyder99]

Yeah, but the question here is why can't we all see these potiential flame threads as potential flame threads just keep them to ourselves. Relentless bickering is not the focus here, but that is all we get because we get posts of how dumb a member is, or how good a car is, or how this one guy that I don't like says he has stuff on his car and I don't believe him so I am going to whine. Baisically, STFU.

Preech it brotha... besides we all know what cars are the best in the world *cough* DSM's *cough* :wink:

[AU RSX-S]

Preech it brotha... besides we all know what cars are the best in the world *cough* DSM's *cough*

NA Honda's *cough*. :D :wink:

[grizoove]

ferrari's *no cough* :D

but yeah, I like the sarcasm on the board but I dont think most of the posts have much to do with cars or car stuff.

[AU RSX-S]

We need more females on the board. It may lighten things up a little bit.

[grizoove]

females to lighten things up???? We have had two on the board and look at the outcome of them....I am not counting Bambi.

Females have been the cause of the major stupidity threads.