Aspeed Track Day. Let's get serious.

[ActiveAero]

Since the R should be back on the road shortly I really want to get the ball rolling on having a track day towards the end of the summer at TGP.

In order to have a weekend event that will be better for most of you I will be willing to cover a majority of the cost so that more of you can attend. It will also aid in keeping the entry fee as low as possible. If the prices are still in the same ball park I don't see any reason that we can't keep entry fees in the sub $75 range.

I will try to contact the owners this week. I've talked to them in the past but I'm sure the prices have slightly altered since my last conversation.

I should also be able to get a few instructors to attend and I know of a few people on this board that should have instructor contacts as well.

If you are SERIOUSLY interest please let me know. Also, be aware that we can not make a date to satisfy everyone so you must decide if you can make a sacrifice to attend.

Since this will be our first club track event I would also like to keep it on the smaller side and depending on resources we might have to limit the number of cars on track, but remember there will hopefully be more events in the future.

[insert_car]

brock. you can count me in. :cool:

[Matt Harris]

Count me in too. :D

[Adam]

Just a quick question? Where is TGP?

Want to get my car down on a track and see how it goes.

[phillyd]

I'm in. :dropjaw:

[ActiveAero]

I just got off the phone with the owner a few minutes ago. It looks like the price is still the same. I'm going to contact him tonight for more details.

It looks like we are going to need to get a hold of 3 instructors ( 3 cars on track at a time) which shouldn't be much of a problem.

As of right now it looks like the most that we can have as DRIVER cars is 10, but I'm gonna see if we can stretch that number a bit.

IF (and this is a big if) we can have no more than 10 cars but have other people that REALLY want to attend I'll think about getting my little EF Si track worthy enough to be a multi-driver car. That means if we get filled up I'll let the extra people trade out tracking my EF hatch every session. You won't get to drive your car, but getting to romp on a car that isn't yours isn't a bad deal (and no I won't make you pay for it if it blows up).

Also, having an ambulance on scene is an extra $500. If you plan on going and think this is a good idea for the price please say so. I for one believe that as long as we are within reasonable distance to a hospital and have ample corner workers (to put out fires, etc) that it might not be needed.

[Matt Harris]

Just a quick question? Where is TGP?

Want to get my car down on a track and see how it goes.

TGP is Talledega Grand Prix Raceway, it's near Anniston just a little south of I20. It's probably no further for you than it is for us in Auburn.

http://www.tgprace.com/

I, for one, don't think we'll need an ambulance. Unless someone has a catastrophic mechanical failure then there is unlikely to be any reason for it. And I'd say the odds of that are pretty slim.

[ActiveAero]

And I'd say the odds of that are pretty slim.

Why did you have to say that?

< now has $20 bet on somebody going of track and exploding into a ball of flames.
:P

[AccoRdINlySlo]

I'm down to go watch, not going to run the Accord or anything or do they let u pimp around the track....lol :pimp:

Even if I have my new car by then, I still wouldn't run it but like I said, I'm down to go watch :)

[insert_car]

yeah, i don't think the ambulance is needed. the worst that would happen (hopefully) is mechanical failure.


on another note, i'll have a different car by then. :D. one perfect for a road coarse.

[AccoRdINlySlo]

yeah, i don't think the ambulance is needed. the worst that would happen (hopefully) is mechanical failure.


also, i'll have a different car by then. :D. one perfect for a road coarse.
Me too but the Pimp version of urs :D

[ActiveAero]

Talked to owner again and everything seems to be fine with renting track in August and there are plenty of days to pick from.

The only problem is that to keep the price lower we would really need to have the event during the week. If we do it during the week the entrance price will only be appox $55 per person. If we go with the weekend route you'll be looking at around $144 a person.



I'm thinking the best route would be to schedule it around the week or two gap between Auburns summer and fall semester for all of those taking summer classes. If somebody could provide me some dates I would appreciate it.

[Matt Harris]

Weekend or weekday is fine with me as long as there's enough notice to get a day off from work.

[WiggiE]

on another note, i'll have a different car by then. :D. one perfect for a road coarse.
Why is your current car not good enough for a road course?? :dropit:

[ActiveAero]

Ok I'm ready to put the deposit down for the track but I definitely need more willing to go than this.

I thought Aspeed was a bunch of hardcore "let's prove it on the track" guys? Where are all the big talkers at?;)

So far we have:

1. Myself.
2. Matt Harris.
3. GTI Michael.
4. 1.8t Michael ( don't think he has seen this yet but we talked about it recently).
5. Phillyd.

[Inspector]

fuck it...i'm gonna say i'm in, no matter what car i have then (and i'm still gonna kick all your asses :2xFU: ).

btw...prelude is goin for sale soon, if anyone knows someone interested.

[Matt Harris]

This isn't about kicking asses, it's about having fun. :P Personally i'm going out there to get a nice adrenaline rush, practice and become a better driver, and just basically have a good time. Doing a track day is one of the most exciting things you can do, and the more laid back everyone is the better and, most importantly, safer the environment. :thumbsup:

[ActiveAero]

This isn't about kicking asses, it's about having fun. :P Personally i'm going out there to get a nice adrenaline rush, practice and become a better driver, and just basically have a good time. Doing a track day is one of the most fun things you can do, and the more laid back everyone is the better and most importantly safer the environment. :thumbsup:

True. Somebody definitely needs to bring a grill and we can all chip in for burgers.

I'll be looking into loaner helmets as well. So far it looks like we will need proper fitting helmets that meet Snell rated SA 95 or M 95 or newer standards.

[1.8t]

I am in, just saw this thread. I would SERIOUSLY prefer a weekday, but I have class every mutha F'n day and you don't need to miss in the summer. Let us know some dates Brock and so I can see if I need to pull some strings.

[AdamEX]

I am definitely in! :thumbsup:

Edit: This is Rick btw aka Anderson

[ActiveAero]

I am in, just saw this thread. I would SERIOUSLY prefer a weekday, but I have class every mutha F'n day and you don't need to miss in the summer. Let us know some dates Brock and so I can see if I need to pull some strings.

Find out when your last summer class is. I'd like to make it on a weekday in between the end of summer classes and the beginning of the fall semester so everyone will have a chance of attending.

[VDUBNDizzy]

The last day of summer exams is 8/5 and the beginning of fall is 8/16. That said, if it's after the 16th, I'm only taking classes on Tues and Thurs this fall. :cool: As for me, I'm a DEFINITE and I have my own helmet. :thumbsup: But I don't get the three cars on the track at time rule. It doesn't matter, ie I'm not asking because I'm trying to make this competitive, but every time I've been there, there's been way more than three on the track at a time, even at a non-instruction event, ie everyone drove solo. I'm only asking because it'll let more than ten of us be able to enjoy the event. Now if we don't have more than ten, it doesn't matter, but the closer you get to the date of the event, usually more people will try to join last minute. Just a thought.

Edit: Just to clarify, this isn't a drive out on the track and drive home like a trip to the dragstrip. Most are going to need to bleed the brakes before and after, and that's considering you don't eat up your pads. TGPR is small and seven turns, it's more technical than it looks, it WILL eat up brake pads and tires, so make your sure you car is up to the task before you think you can just drive out on a track day and back home again without any maintenance.

[insert_car]

Why is your current car not good enough for a road course?? :dropit:

haha, hell yeah it is!!! but its a peice compared to what i'm looking at. :thumbsup:

[ActiveAero]

The last day of summer exams is 8/5 and the beginning of fall is 8/16. That said, if it's after the 16th, I'm only taking classes on Tues and Thurs this fall. :cool: As for me, I'm a DEFINITE and I have my own helmet. :thumbsup: But I don't get the three cars on the track at time rule. It doesn't matter, ie I'm not asking because I'm trying to make this competitive, but every time I've been there, there's been way more than three on the track at a time, even at a non-instruction event, ie everyone drove solo. I'm only asking because it'll let more than ten of us be able to enjoy the event. Now if we don't have more than ten, it doesn't matter, but the closer you get to the date of the event, usually more people will try to join last minute. Just a thought.



The reasons I mentioned 3 cars on track were due to the following:

1. It's what the track owner mentioned in our conversations.
2. The more new people on the track the more instructors we will have to find. This is the main reason.
3. Helmet borrowing. I doubt everyone will buy their own and I don't want to have to purchase more than I have to.
4. Safety.

Besides with such a small group of people we'll still be able to get in TONS of track time regardless of how many people are on track at the same time.

BTW the number of people has to do with the price. I'm going to talk to the owner once again to see how far we can stretch the number of drivers.

[1.8t]

I already have 2 full track days on this track in the clockwsie direction. I really don't need any instruction at all if we are going to run it in that direction. I already have my spare brake fluid pads ready ;) . One thing I am kind of bitter about is I JUST put brand new SUCKY tires on the car. Ugh, they are horrilbe. Gonna see if I can snag some used advans for cheap before we do this.

[Matt Harris]

I've done the track counterclockwise, which I hear is the safer direction. I know you'd be fine with it that way too, Michael, with a few laps to learn it.

I also have a helmet of my own.

[adam p]

I am definately coming to watch, hang out, maybe even ride if they let me (not sure about rules). However, I will probably not be able to break out the WRX because I doubt I will have money for brakes and tires, but hoepfully by then I will have saved up some money.

In other words, I just simply can't commit, but I am coming. If I have to I will pay the money in advance and come whether I track the WRX or not.

But I am definately coming. It'll be a ton of fun! And hopefully it iwll help kickstart aSpeed as we go into a new semester (I miss you people)!

[1.8t]

I don't have money for tires or brakes for that matter either....but I am still going :D . I will just pace myself to keep either from getting to hot and if I see a lot of wear happening, I will hang it up.

[Swine]

Im in...however if its held on a weekday during Southern Union finals there might be a problem.

[VDUBNDizzy]

Yeah, I've run it both directions as well and don't need an instructor either. Regardless of how many cars are on the track, I'm stoked. :cool:

[insert_car]

I don't have money for tires or brakes for that matter either....but I am still going :D . I will just pace myself to keep either from getting to hot and if I see a lot of wear happening, I will hang it up.

thats my thoughts exactly. i don't have the money either but i wouldn't miss it for the world. :D

oh and i have my own helment.

[Matt Harris]

Brock, if we need a few more folks, i'll ask around at work. May be able to come up with another couple of guys.

[VDUBNDizzy]

I don't think we'll have a shortage after our conversation at dinner.

[Matt Harris]

I don't think we'll have a shortage after our conversation at dinner.

???

[1.8t]

Bunch of Aspeed boys met up at Buffalos....I am assuming there was a bunch of verbal commitments made there.

[VDUBNDizzy]

You might be a boy, but I'm not. ;) And yes, it sounded like there would be plenty of representation, but people have been known to back out at the last minute. :confused:

[insert_car]

but people have been known to back out at the last minute. :confused:

be prepared for this.

[phillyd]

Ok I'm ready to put the deposit down for the track but I definitely need more willing to go than this.

I thought Aspeed was a bunch of hardcore "let's prove it on the track" guys? Where are all the big talkers at?;)

So far we have:

1. Myself.
2. Matt Harris.
3. GTI Michael.
4. 1.8t Michael ( don't think he has seen this yet but we talked about it recently).
5. Phillyd.


I'm in for sure, but I don't have any track time under my belt...so I hope that's not a problem. Also, I can probably buy a helmet if I really need to.

[phillyd]

fuck it...i'm gonna say i'm in, no matter what car i have then (and i'm still gonna kick all your asses :2xFU: ).

btw...prelude is goin for sale soon, if anyone knows someone interested.

what 'cha getting?

[ActiveAero]

I'm in for sure, but I don't have any track time under my belt...so I hope that's not a problem. Also, I can probably buy a helmet if I really need to.

Won't be a problem. I've only autocrossed myself.


Ok guys I think our track day is gonna fall between the 8-11th of August. Does anyone have any problem with any of those dates? I would pesonally like to shoot for a Monday or Tuesday (the 8th or 9th), but any of those days are fine. That is Auburns free week as well so none of you should be in class.

Input?

[AccoRdINlySlo]

Won't be a problem. I've only autocrossed myself.


Ok guys I think our track day is gonna fall between the 8-11th of August. Does anyone have any problem with any of those dates? I would pesonally like to shoot for a Monday or Tuesday (the 8th or 9th), but any of those days are fine. That is Auburns free week as well so none of you should be in class.

Input?
If its on the 8th or 9th, def can't do it, I finally graduate on the 8th and prob be too hammered to head out the next day. Yall have fun tho :)

[insert_car]

Won't be a problem. I've only autocrossed myself.


yeah, same here.

anyways, those dates sound fine to me.

[Matt Harris]

I think that Monday, the 8th, would be great. Makes it a 3 day weekend and doesn't break up the work week for me.

[ActiveAero]

I think that Monday, the 8th, would be great. Makes it a 3 day weekend and doesn't break up the work week for me.


My thoughts exactly.

[1.8t]

Agreed, Monday does sound pimp. As long as we are off that week, its gonna be on like Donky Kong.

[ActiveAero]

its gonna be on like Donky Kong.


http://www.chez106.com/content/ARCADE/donkeyKong.gif

[phillyd]

Monday the 8th, I second that motion. :cool:

[Matt Harris]

So what's the head count now? Who are all the new people that have signed on?

[VDUBNDizzy]

Monday the 8th works for me too.

[1.8t]

I am already getting excited and we are damn 2 months away. Hahaha.

[adam p]

I'm in for Monday the 8th! :rock:

[insert_car]

I am already getting excited and we are damn 2 months away. Hahaha.


ha, yeah i am to mike. the 8th sounds good to me also :rock: woooo

[ActiveAero]

Looks like the 8th it is.

I'll call them tomorrow to reserve the spot and send in the deposit.


Looks like this is the final list. It's a nice low number and I think I'm gonna keep it limited for our first Aspeed event.

1. Mike 337GTI
2. Matt Harris
3. Phillyd
4. Michael 1.8t
5. Inspector
6. Anderson
7. VDubndizzy
8. WRboxer
9. ActiveAero
10. Instructor slot.
11. Instructor slot. (maybe, depends if the track owner will let me squeeze in one more)


Since several of you have already been on track I don't think it will be a big deal if we only have one instructor. If need be we can get the instructor to ride with each of us TGP newbs for a few laps to sign us off. If we get the instructor I'm thinking we will I have a feeling we'll get signed off pretty quick unless you are a complete moron.

We we also keep the run groups very small regardless of how you have ran on track before. This is our first event and safety needs to be at the top of our list. Besides, with only 10 drivers and the whole track to ourselves for the day I think we'll probably get more track time than any of us will know what to do with, small run group or not.

[ActiveAero]

Oh and BTW how many of you guys that don't have roadcourse experience have actually autocrossed before?

It would be nice if most of us had at least some experience given that we will probably have a limited number of instructors.

[VDUBNDizzy]

Can we run it counterclockwise for a session? :cool: And damn you shafted AdamWRX. lol

Edit: Forgot he said he would probably just watch. DOH.

[Matt Harris]

There's no reason we couldn't run it clockwise in the morning and CCW in the afternoon if we wanted to. would help even out the tire wear and be like having 2 courses in one.

Everything sounds good Brock. Let us know how much and when you need the money!

[fineazell1]

I have always wanted to do something like this. I wish my car was built for these kind of tracks. I think all I would manage to do is cause my car problems. I would love to take my wife's altima on a road course, it's so fun to drive.

Mustangs = Straight line :(

[ActiveAero]

Update:

THE TRACK IS OURS!!!!!


August 8th, mark your calendar. :D


Once my down payment check clears and I get the paperwork in the mail we'll work out a payment method for the rest of you.

The cost will be $55.00. Trust me when I say you are getting a good deal.

;)

[VDUBNDizzy]

I'll agree to that, hell of a deal, I've seen people pay four times that for a day there. Thanks for setting this up man. Looking forward to it.

[1.8t]

Brock, give me your paypal address and I will go on and paypal you the amount now. BTW, get your damn shortblock and lets get that crap in. Go get it this weekend and will drop her in this weekend.

[roadracer4life]

I realise i am late here but if you are lookin for an instructor i think i qualify to train people there. Brock let me know

Thanks

Sam Collier
334-467-0934

I will bring my 125cc kart if you all would like :)

[Inspector]

yea, i definitely want to run...$55 is amazing for track use!

...and the 8th is fine with me.

[1.8t]

BTW, for those who haven't driven a 125c shifter kart......muhahahhahahhahahha, its INSANE. :headbang:

[insert_car]

I will bring my 125cc kart if you all would like :)

:dropjaw:

brock , your the man. thats a killer price. thanks for the work. NOW ITS TIME TO PLAY!

[Matt Harris]

I realise i am late here but if you are lookin for an instructor i think i qualify to train people there. Brock let me know

Thanks

Sam Collier
334-467-0934

I will bring my 125cc kart if you all would like :)

That would be sweet!!! :O

[1.8t]

Aight guys, Sam is locked into the number 10 slot as an instructor. He suggested we run have the day one way and half the day the other way to keep from killing the front left/right tires.

[fineazell1]

How slots are open for drivers?
Are they full?
What are the qualifications to drive?

[insert_car]

to keep from killing the front left/right tires.

oh man, thank you, really, thank you.

[WiggiE]

What ever happened to the VR4 guys???? I thought they were the ones that wanted to drive on a roadcourse and would show all of us up???? :confused:

[Matt Harris]

oh man, thank you, really, thank you.

It's not like I recommended this earlier or anything... :P

[adam p]

And damn you shafted AdamWRX. lol


FINAL EDIT: Yeah brock I got shafted. I sent you a PM saying I wanted to go, then saying I couldn't, but I just crunched some more numbers and took into account my new schedule and I can go.

IN other words, like my last post, I'M IN FOR THE 8TH ROCK ON! Except I didn't get on "The List." So..

Can I get on the list? Is it because you don't know me and think I'm a stupid kid, or did you just get confused by my first post back when I didn't think I could make it? I really want in on this, especially for 55 dollars. I need to know the reason that I didn't get on the list the first time.

Thanks.

[VDUBNDizzy]

What ever happened to the VR4 guys???? I thought they were the ones that wanted to drive on a roadcourse and would show all of us up???? :confused:

Who cares, we don't want them cracking the track and ending the fun early. :P Seriously, Sean's car won't run by then, and Rob I don't know about. :cripple:

[1.8t]

I never saw Matt suggest running both directions. I usually don't read through all of the replies guys. ;)

[phillyd]

Ok, we're in there like swimwear!!!!

Now, I must buy some coilovers!!! :D

[insert_car]

It's not like I recommended this earlier or anything... :P

yeah i know you did but mine was just a general statement about how glad i am about even tire wear. :D

[AccoRdINlySlo]

Damn U guys :mad: While I'm sittin there listen to 5 diff boring speeches and hearing about hundreds names be called out (which one will be mine), and taken like 1 billion pixs....yall are going to be tearing it up. Yall have fun and someone tape this :sadwave:

[WiggiE]

FINAL EDIT: Yeah brock I got shafted. I sent you a PM saying I wanted to go, then saying I couldn't, but I just crunched some more numbers and took into account my new schedule and I can go.

IN other words, like my last post, I'M IN FOR THE 8TH ROCK ON! Except I didn't get on "The List." So..

Can I get on the list? Is it because you don't know me and think I'm a stupid kid, or did you just get confused by my first post back when I didn't think I could make it? I really want in on this, especially for 55 dollars. I need to know the reason that I didn't get on the list the first time.

Thanks.
Jesus, you sound like a freaking girl. Think about it, if you didn't EXPLICITLY tell Brock you could/want to go, then obviously you're not going to be on the list. It's not like Brock sits around all day, calling everyone just to make sure they still want do/don't want to go.

Instead of acting like you got dicked, b/c of your lack of planning/communication, you should be thankful to Brock for putting it together. I don't think you realize that putting together an event like this takes time and he laid down his own money for a deposit.

EDIT:In retrospect, I think you should also be apologetic for coming off like an a-hole.

[roadracer4life]

Sweet guys I look forward to having some fun. Its a great track and I think everyone will really enjoy it. I suggest people comming even if they dont have a car to run and just ride thats just as much fun some times...

Sam

[ActiveAero]

FINAL EDIT: Yeah brock I got shafted. I sent you a PM saying I wanted to go, then saying I couldn't, but I just crunched some more numbers and took into account my new schedule and I can go.

IN other words, like my last post, I'M IN FOR THE 8TH ROCK ON! Except I didn't get on "The List." So..

Can I get on the list? Is it because you don't know me and think I'm a stupid kid, or did you just get confused by my first post back when I didn't think I could make it? I really want in on this, especially for 55 dollars. I need to know the reason that I didn't get on the list the first time.

Thanks.


The reason you are not on the list is because you kept using the term spectate, so I was unclear that you wanted to drive. Spectate and participate are two very different words.


The number of drivers is limited to 10 because of the track costs. They run a certain rate for 6-10 drivers and going over that by even 1 person would put us into the next price bracket. Since I'm funding the majority of the costs myself to keep the entrance price low for everyone I did not wish to go into the next price bracket on our first event.


Sam, you were the instructor I had in mind from the start. :P

[adam p]

Jesus, you sound like a freaking girl. Think about it, if you didn't EXPLICITLY tell Brock you could/want to go, then obviously you're not going to be on the list. It's not like Brock sits around all day, calling everyone just to make sure they still want do/don't want to go.

Instead of acting like you got dicked, b/c of your lack of planning/communication, you should be thankful to Brock for putting it together. I don't think you realize that putting together an event like this takes time and he laid down his own money for a deposit.

EDIT:In retrospect, I think you should also be apologetic for coming off like an a-hole.


Sorry, I don't see how I came off as an A-hole? I said like a week ago I would PROBABLY be watching, but then the last post said I was in. I said the whole time I would $55 regardless to save my spot on the list in case I could drive (which now I know that I can). Yes, maybe that wasn't very clear, and I understand that, I just wanted to make sure that was the reason. So I asked.

I don't recall giving ANY indication that I was unsympathetic to Brock for putting this together, but its kind of hard to look grateful when you aren't invited, but here it is:

Thanks Brock for putting this together, I understand it was a miscommunication, and I wish I could participate, but I will just catch the next train.

It was clear enough for Vdubndizzy to say "Hey look, you shafted AdamWRX," so I don't think I'm out of line. Don't be so defensive Mr. Wiggie.

Well you guys have fun.

[VDUBNDizzy]

EDIT:In retrospect, I think you should also be apologetic for coming off like an a-hole.

Same to you, chief. :happyFU:

Like I told you Adam, you're more than welcome to come along and ride a few sessions with me if you'd like.

[ActiveAero]

Be good boys and girls.

http://www.infancia80.com.br/cinetv/heman-2.jpg

The power of greyskull says I can knock you off the list and/or keep you from watching. ;)

[Swine]

Oh and BTW how many of you guys that don't have roadcourse experience have actually autocrossed before?

It would be nice if most of us had at least some experience given that we will probably have a limited number of instructors.

I have several run several auto-x's and have done VERY well. However, no track expierence here.

[phillyd]

Sorry, I don't see how I came off as an A-hole? I said like a week ago I would PROBABLY be watching, but then the last post said I was in. I said the whole time I would $55 regardless to save my spot on the list in case I could drive (which now I know that I can). Yes, maybe that wasn't very clear, and I understand that, I just wanted to make sure that was the reason. So I asked.

I don't recall giving ANY indication that I was unsympathetic to Brock for putting this together, but its kind of hard to look grateful when you aren't invited, but here it is:

Thanks Brock for putting this together, I understand it was a miscommunication, and I wish I could participate, but I will just catch the next train.

It was clear enough for Vdubndizzy to say "Hey look, you shafted AdamWRX," so I don't think I'm out of line. Don't be so defensive Mr. Wiggie.

Well you guys have fun.


I am sure he can keep your name on the list just in case anyone ends up not being able to go... :foxnews:

[Swine]

Damn im getting antzy!

[1.8t]

I am officially giving my spot up for grabs. I still plan on being there, just not running the car. Extenuating circustances have arisen. :(

[Matt Harris]

I am officially giving my spot up for grabs. I still plan on being there, just not running the car. Extenuating circustances have arisen. :(

You suck. :mad:

:P

[adam p]

I'm going to go ahead then and take his spot if that is cool :D

Sucks you arent running Michael :(

[Swine]

I'm going to go ahead then and take his spot if that is cool :D

Sucks you arent running Michael :(


Woot! nother rex in the rankings.

Brock what are you going to be in at the track day(R or the hatch)?

[insert_car]

You suck. :mad:

:P

agreed.

what happened?

[AadosX]

Damnit, this is what I get for not reading aSpeed for a few months...

Well, since it seems that Adam has gotten Michaels spot, is it ok for me to assume the next open spot due to a backout is mine? I posted in the original thread that I would definitely be down, I just didn't know that there was a new thread. Either way, no excuses, but if anyone decides they can't go I would love to take their spot.

And either way, huge thanks to Brock for fronting most of the money to keep this cheap. Last I checked the track was a grand a day, so he's putting up half the money himself it seems.

[Inspector]

i'm pretty sure greg has the next spot.