Interesting...

[gangsta coupe]

Selective Service to Test Draft Machinery
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/selective-service-to-test-draft/20061222043309990003

[dixond]

It would definitely make a statement to the rest of the world if we did reinstate the draft. I think some people just need to suck it up and be men about the state of the world that we live in today. In my opinion, serving a couple of years in the military would be good for the American society as a whole.

[Black Kat]

Well in my opinion...an army works much much better if it's made up of people who have the heart and motivation to actually want to be there...all a draft would do is incorporate many people who dont want to be there, and therefore deteriorate the quality of the forcess...dont you agree? i mean a championship team doesnt make it to the championships with half-ass slackers who dont have the heart nor want to be there

[xamraci]

in a country that is full of people who live to insult our country...no a draft isnt that intellegent...if I get drafted...fuck it...I am down and willing. I would rather not join the military until I graduate but if times call for such a thing...Notch me in.

[Byrd]

in a country that is full of people who live to insult our country...no a draft isnt that intellegent...if I get drafted...fuck it...I am down and willing. I would rather not join the military until I graduate but if times call for such a thing...Notch me in.

QFT. Well said

[ActiveAero]

A government that is supposed to be FOR the people BY the people that would think about reinstating the draft for a war that the majority of the people now do NOT agree with have to be retarded.

If they reinstated the draft I would do my duty as long as it was the will of the people but I would have absolutely no problems what so ever with any revolution that resulted because of it. I believe this shows MORE patriotism that blindingly agreeing with a government that would go AGAINST the will of those who elected it.

The people that say "If you don't agree with the government on XXX you need to get out of this country, etc" need to look up what the foundation of this country is all about. This thinking of blindlingly following the government is the exact OPPOSITE of what our country was founded on. It was founded by men who went AGAINST a government that did not enact the will of the people and during their time they were labled as unpatriotic and traitors to their "country" as well. Just something to keep in mind.

[xamraci]

We are also not ruled by a tyrant from an ocean away. We arent rulled at all. We have an electoral government. Those who were elected into power would choose if we had a draft. So in the path of how things work...we elect them, they elect the draft, ifso facto...we elected the draft. and essentialy that follows FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE...ect. We revolted to un-equal taxation, un-equal rights, and overall provocation from leadership that was not only dated but inadequite. If there was a revolution over this shit...I am not for it. And frankly that is the most ignorant thing I have ever read. Think you watched too much V for Vendetta(psst, its a movie)
In the end this nation was formed some 200 years ago. We revolted against a TYRANT. A few years later The civil war was won by both sides. As it stands we have states rights, we have our own government, state, local, and federal. We have a federal banking system, as well as local systems of banking all interconnected to federal systems. We have taxes that are fair and appropriated as they need to be. Some mis-used but those can be picked thru from either side of the lawn.
Anyone willing to dodge a draft can join the ranks of people like Bill Clinton and his other cohorts. Cowards unwilling to follow the cause of their elected leaders. Its part of being an american...I guess if you lived in 1917 you wouldnt have gone to germany to help britain? I guess f you lived in 194X you wouldnt have gone to defend our country from Germany, Italy, Japan, or the other powers that were? I guess if you lived in 195X you wouldnt have gone to Korea? I guess if you lived in 196X you wouldnt have gone to Vietnam to aid a country nearly overtaken by a communist dicatorship? I guess if you were old enough you would have scrutinized the cold war, our idea of building a nueclear arsenal, while trying to remove such weapons from others? I guess during Shield and Storm you would have protested and scrutinized our operations there...?
I guess in all of those instances we should have revolted so you could possibly be paying your 60% taxes that would have been implimented by the democrats because I know you are in a higher tax bracket, atleast your parents are. Enjoying their 40% of their EARNED income while those in lower classes arent paying taxes and people of any real worth arent worth anything as they hardly have the capital to buy a new car because they have 4 kids and they recieve no tax breaks because they are in the top 45% of the nations income level?

If you wanna revolt Brock...KNock yourself the FUCK OUT! Be prepaired because things wont get better...eventually they will get worse. We didnt have an established government when this country was FORMED(key word there)so there was a platform to build on...not something to destroy and then RE-BUILD!

I have to go visit my grand parents now...The korean and vitenam veteran, what I deem a patriot. And I will probably ride with my dad, Cold War Pilot, Shield, Storm, Bosnia Conflict, and Iraq Freedom Vet. Damn glad they didnt have the IDEA to REVOLT!!!! I would not be enjoying that much for christmas



I am done

[Sole Maverick]

First off they tested this draft system back in 1998 as well. It is just a normal test that is done to make sure the process is better if need be. I dont think this test will even happen till 09.

Also the idea that a military made up of draftees being a military that is unmotivated is completely unfounded. Napoleans armies were so good when he started out because his country was the first to ever use a drafting system. The reason he was eventually defeated was because other nations adopted a similar form of creating a military.

And if you dont want to be drafted you can leave our country. Being drafted pretty much means that you would be willing to fight for your nation. Which means you are motivated to do so. Plus most of us would never be drafted if there was one because of our level of education.

[CPMaverick]

First off they tested this draft system back in 1998 as well. It is just a normal test that is done to make sure the process is better if need be. I dont think this test will even happen till 09.

Exactly, you guys are getting a bit worked up over this. There's no sign of a draft anytime soon.

[ActiveAero]

Can anyone read? No seriously can you? Here I'll highlight it for you.


If they reinstated the draft I would do my duty as long as it was the will of the people but I would have absolutely no problems what so ever with any revolution that resulted because of it.

Newsflash: I already work for the fucking government and am constantly talking about how much I love my job. This is beside the point since I didn't mention it in the original post but I though I'd let you know that I've had some fairly serious discussions over the past few years of QUITTING the FBI to join the armed services since it's an honor to serve the country and it would provide me with tons of worldy experience. Did I also ever mention I was in the ROTC while at Auburn and had applied to the Air Force Academy? Oh and the fact that I said that I WOULD take up my duty in the draft as long as it was the will of the people which Nick for some unknown freaking explained to me how that works (by the elected officials making policy for us) which I of course am fucking aware of. Did I saying ANYTHING contrary to that or do you just see anything that you think is "anti-american" and just decide to go on your rehearsed flame war without attempting to comprehend what I've said and pre-judge me as someone who is anti-military which is about as FAR from the truth as humanly possible ?

Oh and the rest of your argument makes no fucking sense anyway.

WW2? Are you fucking kidding me. We were attacked you dumbass did you not remember that? Do you honestly think it in ANY WAY compares to this war? Nearly every freaking single American back then wanted to kick ass and take names. We had no choice but to fight for the survival of the nation. If you are going to argue with me at least don't pick points like this.

Oh and my grandfather, who raised me half of my life was a WW2 veteran and nearly every male in my family in history that could have been has fought in every major war back to my great great grandfather, who is fairly famous for keeping one of the best recorded archives of the Civil war (He was extremely literate and wrote letters every day. His work is currently under publication).

BTW I don't dance around on the grave of my grandfather for every little governmental arguement that comes up to try and sway people towards my point (even when you have none because you didn't read).

Oh and I think YOU are the one that has watched too much V for Vendeta. A revolution doesn't always mean a freaking hostile takeover of the government nor does it mean anyone has to dodge the draft. We had a revolution in the 60's and 70's with the peace movement and most of those people were NOT draft dodgers. Yes I what to punch most hippies in the face but I for one know that the opposing opinions of the people of this great country is what makes it so great EVEN IF I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT.

Unfortunately 90% of you guys hear anything that you don't like and decide to start a fucking flame fest out of nowhere wanting to call each and every person who doesn't agree with the war a traitor and a draft dodger when in reality you are just too close minded realize that it is usually NOT the case.

[ActiveAero]

That all being said...... Merry Christmas. :P

[1.8t]

Lol, good thing I got lots of candy for Christmas. I only have about a weeks worth though, so you guys try to wrap it up by then, capiche?

[xamraci]

We were attacked recently also brock...just to drop the Facts...

and...

Have a Merry Christmas

"Unfortunately 90% of you guys hear anything that you don't like and decide to start a fucking flame fest out of nowhere"

POT, KETTLE, BLACK

Have a Good Christmas Brock...Glad I was Able to get you fired up and explain yourself a bit better and allow yourself to NOT sound like a dick bag...have a good Christmas/Holiday

[Whitemustang46]

We were attacked recently also brock...just to drop the Facts...

and...



I guess it should me mentioned that in WWII we were attacked by another nation, a government bent on our destruction. The latest attack ala 9-11 was carried out by a terrorist group, not a governmental mandate and definitely not Iraq whom we entered upon this current war with false pretenses. I guess it doesn't matter to me, I'll be the first to say, I'm not fighting a damn war for some people thousands of miles away who could care less whether we are there or not. Those people have been killing themselves for thousands of years and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future.

Here's to the WMD that our (mind you draft dodging as well) President G.W. has insisted that they have as the reason for fighting in Iraq (finishing Daddy's war). And here's to me booking the first flight to Amsterdam, Holland, or Canada as soon as they enact a draft.

I'm not against the military and I've thought seriously about joining. My Father and both my Grandfathers were high ranking officers in the military, so before you go saying how unpatriotic I am, just hold off. I'm just not entirely wild about fighting a war half a world a way that I really don't feel strongly about and one that the MAJORITY of Americans feel was miss handled, unnecessary, and reckless.

[Sole Maverick]

Maybe what we should do is completely pull out of Iraq, let it become a terriorist state, wait until it attacks us, and then we institute a draft and go to war against them!

Sound good guys?

[ActiveAero]

Maybe what we should do is completely pull out of Iraq, let it become a terriorist state, wait until it attacks us, and then we institute a draft and go to war against them!


Sounds good to me. I'm nearly positive the nearly $500 BILLION we've spent over there would have done a 100 times better job of protecting us from terrorists by using it to increase our funding for the investigation agencies here IN THE USA.

Ask any of our Counter Terrorism Agents here in my office if they think "winning" the war over there is going to do jack squat with preventing a terrorist attack on U.S. soil and they'll laugh in your face.

[Whitemustang46]

Maybe what we should do is completely pull out of Iraq, let it become a terriorist state, wait until it attacks us, and then we institute a draft and go to war against them!

Sound good guys?

Using your logic we'd have to destroy the entire middle east along with many other locals that promote terrorism...

[dixond]

......:dance: :rolllaugh

[TransAmDriver]

Maybe what we should do is completely pull out of Iraq, let it become a terriorist state, wait until it attacks us, and then we institute a draft and go to war against them!

Sound good guys?

Bomb them all, let Allah sort it out. ;)

[ActiveAero]

Bomb them all, let Allah sort it out. ;)


That's more in line with my train of thought (although not quite bombing them ALL lol). Instead of this democratizing BS I say we just keep doing what we do best....the military cup check. We'll let you run around like a crazy ass hat as long as you like but as soon as you make a real military threat against us or one of our Allies we send a squadron of F-16's/B2's/etc up your ass to precision bomb you back in time a few decades. Wash, rinse and repeat as nessecary.

Iran will be needing one pretty soon if you ask me.

[Whitemustang46]

That's more in line with my train of thought (although not quite bombing them ALL lol). Instead of this democratizing BS I say we just keep doing what we do best....the military cup check. We'll let you run around like a crazy ass hat as long as you like but as soon as you make a real military threat against us or one of our Allies we send a squadron of F-16's/B2's/etc up your ass to precision bomb you back in time a few decades. Wash, rinse and repeat as nessecary.

Iran will be needing one pretty soon if you ask me.


I fully agree with this suggestion...